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On January 20 2011 23:02 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 22:58 Roffles wrote:On January 20 2011 22:37 Astrapto wrote:
Do any of the MSL streamers do English commentary? I'm too n00bish to enjoy it without commentary. The games are total snorefests with English commentators. Nothing really can compare to the energy and excitement that the Korean commentators bring. For people who are very new to the game and don't really understand it very well it helps tremendously to have english commentators. Makes it much more enjoyable until you can think for yourself well enough. Once you do, koreans>>>all though.
Actually I kind of disagree...it's kind of gone full circle for me. At first I watched English, then I watched Korean, but then when I understood the game well enough and didn't need to hear the commentators going ballistic at everything to keep up I (at least for OSL) prefer listening to Nuke over Koreans. *shrug*
EDIT: I should add I don't speak Korean...  I just like having background noise (especially when it's entertaining) while I'm watching matches.
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On January 21 2011 02:02 Cpadolf wrote:
Taek = Kim Taek Young = Bisu
Bang = Song Byung Goo = Stork (don't really know why it's Bang, maybe it is that Byung kinda sounds like Bang)
LeeSsang = Lee Jae Dong + Lee Young Ho = Jaedong and Flash (LeeSsang means double Lee or something of the sorts).
It became a thing since those 4 players have for a very long time been the most prominent players on the scene. Since the Bisu vs Savior in march of 2007, 6 out of 10 MSLs have had one of them as the winner, 8 out of 10 MSLs have featured 1 or 2 of them in the finals and 10 out of 10 has had one or more in the semis. For OSLs, 7 out of 10 has had one of them as the winner, 8 out of 10 has had one or two of them in the finals and 9 out of 10 has had one or more in the semis. Additionally, each of their teams have won at least one PL final since then, and in the same timeframe they are the only 4 to reach #1 in kespa rank.
Thanks for the explanation you're greatly appreciated. I remember the Bisu vs Savior in March 2007 (it's not because i watched it live or anything like that but i watched the vods). But well, i didn't know it was that huge in those terms.
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....O_O
Sweet Jesus, I will cry for weeks if we get ANOTHER ZVZ finals...Calm vs Kwanro, or Jaedong vs Yellow[arnc] type finals were just disheartening T_T
ANY NON-ZERG HWAITING!!!!!
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On January 21 2011 03:23 Kimaker wrote:
....O_O
Sweet Jesus, I will cry for weeks if we get ANOTHER ZVZ finals...Calm vs Kwanro, or Jaedong vs Yellow[arnc] type finals were just disheartening T_T
ANY NON-ZERG HWAITING!!!!!
I think it's pretty likely that we'll get an all-Zerg Ro4.
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Zerg swarm season this msl hail the overmind !
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Swarm fucking Season. FUCK YEAH I LOVE ZVZ!
This is so intense. Great games.
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On January 21 2011 01:26 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 01:11 Elroi wrote:On January 21 2011 00:48 Holgerius wrote:On January 21 2011 00:37 Lightwip wrote:On January 20 2011 21:10 Holgerius wrote:On January 20 2011 21:09 ShadeR wrote:On January 20 2011 20:43 Seraphic wrote:
ooohhh wow. Stork, don't you DARE lose the series to Zero. After all you have done + knocking out Bisu on top of that. Don't...you...dare...lose.
Can't help but say wanting to switch Bisu and Stork around right now. -.-' Don't be THAT Bisu fan. They're all THAT Bisu fan... Everyone has plenty of bandwagon fans. I've seen some KT ones too. That doesn't mean they all are. Bisu no doubt has the worst fanbase though. The ''Best Player of 2010'' poll is undisputable evidence of that. I think every one except the bisu fans will agree on this. Also, I'm surprised at how non-idiotic all the Stork fans are, concidering how well Stork has been doing lately. are you kidding? Stork fanboys are pretty much the second worst group after Bisu's fanboys. Of course there's quite a chasm between them but Stork fanboys are still PRETTY damn bad. Or it's just certain users who gave me a REALLY REALLY bad impression
![[image loading]](http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7775/26365731.png)
You'd probably appreciate this - the Stork fanboys were so loud that Zero's and Stork's chairs shook from the soundproof machinery in the booth ~_~
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HELLS YEAH ZERO :D BRING IT HOME
Although the finals are gonna be really shitty if you do 
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▲ It doesn't seem that way when I practice, but I feel I play sloppy in televised games.
JD having nerve issues on televised games? thats really strange since he has so much experience...
If I were to say something, because it's ZvZ, it wouldn't matter if it's Jaedong.
I don't quite get this, is he saying because its JvZ that he doesn't stand a chance, or that since its ZvZ that its a coin flip and theres a chance he can win?
and holy shit zero's game was amazing... stork didn't play exceptional or anything, but zero... just wow. I'm rooting for Stork though (just in hopes of him taking the finals) so I hope he busts out something interesting in the next few sets... since he's behind now he won't be able to save/hide his crazy PvZ builds (which prior to losing he may have saved in expectation of facing JD in the finals)
▲ I joked to my teammates back at the house, “If I win, I want to put Taek-Baeng-Lee-Ssang in one group using my powers (at the group ceremony)”. I think that will be fun for all watching and right now, I kind of want to do that.(laughs)
holy shit suddenly I love Great... His attitude about the individual leagues and how he is able to just have fun and enjoy shit for the kicks is really refreshing. I wish more people had this kind of affable attitude in the Korean scene
EDIT: Thanks for the translation!
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On January 20 2011 22:58 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 22:37 Astrapto wrote:
Do any of the MSL streamers do English commentary? I'm too n00bish to enjoy it without commentary. The games are total snorefests with English commentators. Nothing really can compare to the energy and excitement that the Korean commentators bring. Your generic English commentators that are still commentating BW are pretty bland and boring. All the decent ones have moved on already.
Klazart - where are you?!
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So all Z semis are incoming? How damn boring... I wish there was one T so we could see some good-level TvZ.
It's been a while since I have seen a good TvZ...
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Games like these make being a ZerO fan worth it amidst all the failing! I really loved his build today. In a way it's kind of similar to the 2hatch muta into double expand build he used against Flash, which was also extremely cool.
It's a shame that if ZerO wins, it'll 90% be a ZvZ final, which is his weakest matchup and not as entertaining, but I still want to see him beat Stork!
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Man how did hydra get so good? He's even saying that he doesn't fear JD in zvz WTF? I don't think he'd beat JD but still.. it's really weird how good he's gotten since EffOrt retired. It's almost like he watched effort's replays over and over until he became a stud O_O
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On January 21 2011 04:17 slappy wrote:[quote Show nested quote +If I were to say something, because it's ZvZ, it wouldn't matter if it's Jaedong. I don't quite get this, is he saying because its JvZ that he doesn't
Its because ZvZ is a silly matchup.
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On January 21 2011 07:14 cujo2k wrote:
Man how did hydra get so good? He's even saying that he doesn't fear JD in zvz WTF? I don't think he'd beat JD but still.. it's really weird how good he's gotten since EffOrt retired. It's almost like he watched effort's replays over and over until he became a stud O_O
Obviously Effort in disguise.
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On January 21 2011 00:48 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2011 00:37 Lightwip wrote:On January 20 2011 21:10 Holgerius wrote:On January 20 2011 21:09 ShadeR wrote:On January 20 2011 20:43 Seraphic wrote:
ooohhh wow. Stork, don't you DARE lose the series to Zero. After all you have done + knocking out Bisu on top of that. Don't...you...dare...lose.
Can't help but say wanting to switch Bisu and Stork around right now. -.-' Don't be THAT Bisu fan. They're all THAT Bisu fan... Everyone has plenty of bandwagon fans. I've seen some KT ones too. That doesn't mean they all are. Bisu no doubt has the worst fanbase though. The ''Best Player of 2010'' poll is undisputable evidence of that.
That part I'll agree with, if only due to the sheer size of it.
But you yourself are not one above annoying fanboyism.
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Sure is zerg in this MSL. Everyone ready for Avalon 2.0?
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On January 21 2011 08:43 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Sure is zerg in this MSL. Everyone ready for Avalon 2.0?
As long as Jaedong loses in the semi and Zero or Calms win its, I'm up for it.
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Even though Kal is good, you can't ignore the natural racial imbalance in BoX, so I didn't worry about it too much.
Really, great? Last time I checked, the most dominant player in the PvZ matchup was a Protoss. I don't buy the ZvP imba anymore. Maybe it's easier to be the Zerg if you're not very skilled, but if you know what you're doing, Protoss is so strong. They definately have the best harrass potential of all, sairs, d/h templars and reavers. Even zealots are awesome for harrassing in this matchup, much more effective than zerglings. Overall, Protoss have much more cost-effective units than Zerg. If everybody played with black sheep wall, I could see the matchup being 70/30 in Protoss's favour.
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Aww darn...Calm and Stork lost T.T
I dunno why but I really like Calm and it pains to see him lose. Even though he's gotten into the Ro8, he still seems a really shaky/weak player compared to Hydra (even though Hydra's good, it's depressing to see that Calm can't really win when it matters insofar as this series has progressed)...
Also Stork ... @milkis (comment about stork fanboys being terrible): do you mean the fanboys in the live, broadcasted games, or the ones online (like me :3).
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