• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:28
CEST 02:28
KST 09:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202540Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
[G] Progamer Settings Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Help, I can't log into staredit.net BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 667 users

[News] Effort announces his retirement - Page 31

Forum Index > BW General
622 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 Next All
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 03 2010 12:03 GMT
#601
On October 03 2010 20:45 double1185 wrote:
Really feeling bad for BW and Z, and CJ, however, I truly support his decision and hope he will succeed in new path. Anyway with BW is decreasing, S2 is thriving and military service waiting for every pro gamers, its wise to change.


Except that BW isn't decreasing, the verdict is still out on the long term success of SC2 and military service awaits every Korean male, whether you play BW or SC2.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
October 03 2010 14:23 GMT
#602
On October 03 2010 21:03 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2010 20:45 double1185 wrote:
Really feeling bad for BW and Z, and CJ, however, I truly support his decision and hope he will succeed in new path. Anyway with BW is decreasing, S2 is thriving and military service waiting for every pro gamers, its wise to change.


Except that BW isn't decreasing, the verdict is still out on the long term success of SC2 and military service awaits every Korean male, whether you play BW or SC2.


Yeah thought that my comment make a little confused then, cause he said that he switch to something else not game, thats where the wise choice come from
Starcraft FTW
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
October 03 2010 14:39 GMT
#603
excuse my ignorance, but even though chuseok is over, i haven't seen any press releases relating to effort.
Commentator
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
October 03 2010 14:49 GMT
#604
It's not out of possibility that Effort will play sc2 considering that some other guy (MVP, Piano? Can't remember) said they were quitting being a progamer because it was too hard but ended up on one of the new teams.
Moktira is da bomb
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 03 2010 15:39 GMT
#605
On October 03 2010 23:49 dcberkeley wrote:
It's not out of possibility that Effort will play sc2 considering that some other guy (MVP, Piano? Can't remember) said they were quitting being a progamer because it was too hard but ended up on one of the new teams.


The manager however said that the new challenge will not be Starcraft 2.

The manager however said that the new challenge will not be Starcraft 2.

The manager however said that the new challenge will not be Starcraft 2.
Birthday
Profile Joined September 2010
17 Posts
October 03 2010 15:47 GMT
#606
On September 23 2010 06:15 MrMotionPicture wrote:
What is Proleague going to be like now? There better be some awesome new players... :\


Just Jaedong and Flash battling it out. Forever.

In space.
For compliance with US regulations we need to know your date of birth.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
October 03 2010 16:45 GMT
#607
On October 04 2010 00:47 Birthday wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2010 06:15 MrMotionPicture wrote:
What is Proleague going to be like now? There better be some awesome new players... :\


Just Jaedong and Flash battling it out. Forever.

In space.



Bring back the spacesuits!
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
Birthday
Profile Joined September 2010
17 Posts
October 03 2010 21:45 GMT
#608
Like Batman, they can both breathe in space.
For compliance with US regulations we need to know your date of birth.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 03 2010 22:27 GMT
#609
Wow thats depressing
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
ayababa
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia347 Posts
October 03 2010 22:58 GMT
#610
mmmm, i guess i can relate. (not in the pro gaming sense)... but the wanting to do new things and challenge yourself and pursue a different career.

Im a well paid head of art at a marketing company.. and have been for the last 5 years.. although i get paid super good, i really just want to quit and do something new with my life. I even told the directors that i would be quiting next year to travel and then go to back to school to study something new.

what im getting at is.. you need to be happy with your job, if its not making your life enjoyable, change jobs.
Well done is better than well said - Benjamin Franklin
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 17:45:25
October 05 2010 17:45 GMT
#611
actually... fuck effort. first he eliminates bisu (without advancing) from the osl, and then goes on to quits starcraft? not a cool story, bro.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk. gonna still miss him
Jaedong.
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
October 05 2010 18:43 GMT
#612
umm, there's nothing about salary negotiations in the original article.
quote? what quote?
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
October 06 2010 21:29 GMT
#613
On October 03 2010 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 15:11 StatiC)Ex( wrote:
On September 30 2010 11:50 Tazza wrote:
On September 30 2010 08:01 Froadac wrote:
I think effort was smart in this. He knows broodwar is dieing, progamers tend to degrade with age, and he ought to get himself ready for the future with an education.

For the last time, BW is not dieing


Wait wait,
You call a lot of players and coaches resigning as BW not dying?
Not when it's the off season... these kinds of changes happen EVERY year. One year we had kingdom, oov, JJu etc all retire which is probably worse than what we've had this season. It just so happens that the release of SC2 and the start of the first few major tournaments coincided with the off season which is making people think that SC id dying - it's not. It'll be back on the 16th.

I soooo wanna believe you, but dunno, I too have been following the proscene since the old days dating back to the Grrr dominance days, and although every now and then there was some shocking retirement/s, it never felt like this.
ChaosShadow
Profile Joined April 2010
United States79 Posts
October 18 2010 07:40 GMT
#614
http://news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000005958&date=20101018&page=1

This was posted recently, running it through google translate i get words like salary negotiation, so if any kind person could translate it, maybe we could get a better idea on this story.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-18 17:14:05
October 18 2010 17:13 GMT
#615
TL;DR of the article is Effort posted stuff on his fancafe: Effort couldn't come to an agreement on salary with the company, and then decided to retire. He also said he wanted to "learn stuff," so I assume it means he's going to focus on his studies/go to school. He says he doesn't want to be a progamer anymore.
TranslatorBaa!
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 18 2010 17:35 GMT
#616
How much could he have possiby asked for considering they got rid of Savior? Thats a significant amount free'd up. Even at a lower S-level gamer salary he'll earn more than he would possibly earn elsewhere, why give up that chance now of all times. Makes no sense.
Selith
Profile Joined September 2010
United States238 Posts
October 18 2010 17:40 GMT
#617
The article tells me that the negotiation really didn't go very smooth.

Effort said: "I wanted to continue playing and enjoying the games with the fans, but during the salary negotiation process, CJ made me turn away from the team to the point, that made me think 'Why did I even bother to play hard for so long for this team?'."
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
October 18 2010 17:51 GMT
#618
wow can't believe it was salary problems.

Perhaps they knew of the hite merger and knew the couldn't offer him as much with Leta joining?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 18 2010 18:43 GMT
#619
If that's why Effort left, I'm pretty pissed at CJ for pushing my favourite progamer to retire.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 18 2010 18:54 GMT
#620
I don't think they "pushed" him out. I think, like King K. Rool said, the Hite merger was probably something already being discussed, so not enough funds for salary raise.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
Elite Rising Star #16 - Day 1
CranKy Ducklings59
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft268
UpATreeSC 155
Nathanias 144
CosmosSc2 51
Vindicta 14
Ketroc 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 819
Hyuk 578
BeSt 341
ggaemo 142
Dota 2
monkeys_forever573
capcasts489
NeuroSwarm117
League of Legends
JimRising 545
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1950
fl0m1486
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe156
Mew2King45
Other Games
summit1g13447
Grubby4268
shahzam898
C9.Mang0219
Maynarde146
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1618
BasetradeTV23
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta66
• RyuSc2 40
• mYiSmile1 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift6859
Other Games
• imaqtpie1523
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Summer Champion…
10h 32m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
14h 32m
PiGosaur Monday
23h 32m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 10h
Stormgate Nexus
1d 13h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 15h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
RotterdaM Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.