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Just a nice bits of information here. Really was a good read from all articles and will give huge props and credit to Milkis despite his hatred toward me. Good job Milkis.
But wow, so many things I want to comment on this but basically to make it brief:
I sorta expected match fixing people pointing fingers to each other... it was bound to happen but to actually read and see it happen, wow..
FBH accepting to ace seems much better than anyone else who were trying to apply at the same time. I hope FBH regain his progaming skills, does well and perform some nice ceremonies! (if he can...)
It seems Upmagic video caused an uproar that Artosis made. I didn't see the video yet since I wasn't interested in SC2 but wow, to think netizens would go into our backyard and watch that interview that was in English, assuming they think they know everything....
And wtf, the coach MVP should be toward SKT1 coach, not KT. Grrr.....
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Actually, KT's coach made pretty terrible decisions along the way, his ass got saved by Flash being a monster for a while.
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TT no more FBH on khan
o well here's hoping he does well when hes in ACE
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On July 23 2010 03:29 night terrors wrote:
Actually, KT's coach made pretty terrible decisions along the way, his ass got saved by Flash being a monster for a while.
Even without Flash this season's KT is much, much better than last season's. Stats, Forgg and sometimes Violet are competitive against anyone and the rest of the team can get a few wins here and there too. (Hoejja can always snipe protoss and Tempest is actually a decent player all around).
Also Flash gave a lot credit for his coach, especially early in the season, for helping with his confidence. It's not just politeness either, Flash actually repeatedly criticised the previous coaching staff saying he had to play too much and wasn't appreciated for it.
I guess you could point out some tactical mistakes he made during matches but he managed the team extremely well.
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On July 23 2010 03:24 QuickStriker wrote:
And wtf, the coach MVP should be toward SKT1 coach, not KT. Grrr.....
Getting MVP for just scraping into the play-offs when you are the champions?
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On July 23 2010 07:47 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 03:24 QuickStriker wrote:
And wtf, the coach MVP should be toward SKT1 coach, not KT. Grrr..... Getting MVP for just scraping into the play-offs when you are the champions?
Not sure what the KT coach did, but the SKT coaching staff did a lot. They pretty much took Bisu out of his slump, and still managed to keep winning after Fantasy, Best, and Bisu weren't doing much. The SKT coaching staff definitely did a lot.
3rd place is hardly barely scraping into the playoffs btw.
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Upmagic, with his interview with T-----
teamliquid?
because artosis isn't affiliated with TL, so it's either another interview or a mistake.
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On July 23 2010 07:53 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 07:47 infinity2k9 wrote:On July 23 2010 03:24 QuickStriker wrote:
And wtf, the coach MVP should be toward SKT1 coach, not KT. Grrr..... Getting MVP for just scraping into the play-offs when you are the champions? Not sure what the KT coach did, but the SKT coaching staff did a lot. They pretty much took Bisu out of his slump, and still managed to keep winning after Fantasy, Best, and Bisu weren't doing much. The SKT coaching staff definitely did a lot. 3rd place is hardly barely scraping into the playoffs btw.
Everybody talks all day about how KT's team sucks other than Flash. Compare the top names on KT to the top names on the other playoff teams and aside from Flash, KT is way behind.
Yet this team with all these "bad" players was comfortably in 1st place the entire season and clinched 1st with several matches to go while every other team jockeyed for playoffs position until basically the very end.
No matter what, KT was far and away the first place team this year in spite of not having the best roster, and not having even a SINGLE competent Zerg once Luxury was gone. In 4 out of the 5 rounds, the rules are such that Flash couldn't singlehandedly win matches for you (and in round 5 Flash barely won anything anyway), so you can't say it's just Flash.
KT's coach gets a lot of flak but he deserves a lot of credit for his team's performance this year.
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MVP should have gone to MBC coach. The guy took an under performing team with no new additions and made them a contender for first place. He really got the most out of the talent he has (not much other than sea).
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On July 23 2010 10:16 setzer wrote:
MVP should have gone to MBC coach. The guy took an under performing team with no new additions and made them a contender for first place. He really got the most out of the talent he has (not much other than sea).
True, but their stats are not too different from last year with the exception of WL (didn't they get second-to-last last year?), WeMade is another team that went from 3rd-to-last to playoffs, with Baby and Midas who reached a new prime and are both A class players.
Also netizens should give wintraders a break, I wouldn't expect they would get at someone this harshly so fast after an interview which wasn't even directed to them nor conducted by their standards (because let's say it, Artosis wants to give us the info that we want and koreans know that foreigners like drama and won't react anywhere as harshly).
Heck, even Hwanni had to do an emergency correction to his statements and all and he's the estro manager...
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Hmm I really hope Hwanni and Artosis didn't get into too much trouble. There was nothing really wrong about that interview unless something else was said in Korean that wasn't translated. But I guess kespa and the proteams don't want any association with the match fixers at all and are acting like they no longer exist.
I was hoping Pusan would get into ACE instead of firebathero because Pusan has been doing well actually but I guess ACE already has a lot of protoss.
Thanks again Milkis, these are always great. 
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Hi, TLer, Comet from wfbrood.com(China).
I have translated this article into Chinese and posted on wfbrood.com, I have clearly stated that it was taken from here and I will bring the feedbacks from China back to here.
Here is the link:http://bbs.wfbrood.com/thread-17832-1-1.html
Thank you!
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wait. T----- = teamliquid?
O___O
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On July 23 2010 07:53 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 07:47 infinity2k9 wrote:On July 23 2010 03:24 QuickStriker wrote:
And wtf, the coach MVP should be toward SKT1 coach, not KT. Grrr..... Getting MVP for just scraping into the play-offs when you are the champions? Not sure what the KT coach did, but the SKT coaching staff did a lot. They pretty much took Bisu out of his slump, and still managed to keep winning after Fantasy, Best, and Bisu weren't doing much. The SKT coaching staff definitely did a lot. 3rd place is hardly barely scraping into the playoffs btw.
Look what they did to Stats, Flash and Violet this year.
Its not an accomplishment letting your player get into a slump and getting him out
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sAviOr ballin' as always.
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For some reason this strikes me as KeSPA being afraid that their harshness of penalties on the match fixers was being criticized; and to a "wider" audience than their reach in Korea. If highlighted and properly criticized, Blizz could actually use it as another weapon to say "you drove players to fix matches by not giving them some sort of safety net" or "why give them lifetime bans when bans of years would have done a similar thing; by eliminating the time when they are most productive in SC" and Koreans not really fully understanding the reasoning on the interview.
And yes, sAviOr bein a baller. Some more Winception please?
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Well written!
Of all people that Ace would have as part of their disciplined image, FBH is the progamer they draft? Maybe biased since I've never been a huge fan of his, but I wish him all the best as he joins the military.
Interesting netizens reactions, are they vindictive to Shin Seung Hee or just shocked/appalled? Why such an issue over speaking in a neutral environment about a serious event in a person's life?
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Savior released a public explanation on what's going on. I dunno, I'm starting to think more and more Savior is innocent at this point and didn't fix matches.
Maybe someone will translate it :3
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Mmmm.... Sort of confused again, so Hwasin lied about what Savior said and Savior didn't participate in match fixing and only spread it around?
The part about UpMagic was pretty dramatic though.
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