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[Interview] Korean Air OSL Finals Winner!

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Last Edited: 2010-05-22 14:20:43
May 22 2010 14:12 GMT
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Korean Air OSL 2010 Finals
Final Winner: (Z)EffOrt
“I wasn’t shaken even when the score was 0-2.”


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Q: How do you feel about your victory?
A: When (T)Flash played against (P)Pure, I wanted Flash to advance. If I managed to make it to the finals to play against Flash, I wanted to show myself from last year. Although Flash played really well, I was luckier than him today. I’m really happy.

Q: It’s your first final, so did you get nervous?
A: It was the first time playing in front of so many people. However, I think this environment suits me. I play better when there are more people. When there’s a small audience, I seem to play worse. I was really angry at myself when the score was 0-2. I prepared so hard but I was surprised by Flash’s aggressive attack. From set 3, a lot of people gave me helpful words and I was able to concentrate better.

Q: A re-game was called on game 1. Did it affect you at all?
A: It could sound like an excuse, but the waiting time after the original game 1 was really long. My mind became weaker during that time, so I couldn’t play as well as I wanted. It surprised me that there was a re-game in such a big stage.

Q: You played offensively starting game 3
A: I played aggressively starting game 3. I prepared strategies depending on the spawn locations. I spawned on locations where I could play aggressively and I played too cautiously until game 2. I decided to play fully starting game 3.

Q: What advices did you hear when you were behind 0-2?
A: Although I was losing 0-2, the match wasn’t over. I was even in the rererere-game scenario. (T)Iris, who has previous final stage experiences, helped me so well so much. He told me not to be burdened by anything. Thanks to him, I was able to set my mind correctly. My manager also told me similar things.

Q: Your rererere-game experience seems to have helped you today
A: I feel that I definitely changed after that incident. I was behind 0-2, but I was not shaken at all. After hearing good advices, I was able to make a comeback.

Q: You found Flash’s proxy barracks in set 4.
A: Honestly, I didn’t play a lot of BoX’s in my life so I didn’t have a completely idea of what to do. However, I realized a lot of things today. I won easily in set 3, so I felt that Flash would try something like that in set 4. This wasn’t what I had originally planned. I trusted my instincts and sent the Overlord straight to the middle of the map. I saw the center Barracks and thought “he fell into it”. If I put my guard down too early, I could have lost so I tried my best until the end.

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Q: How was the last game for you?
A: I thought a lot about it after a re-game was called. Rather than thinking I should win the game, I played without any pressure.

Q: Did you think that Flash would do 14CC in the last set?
A: Rather than thinking about it, Flash blocked his entrance in set 1 so I had to think a lot about this build order. I was aiming to destroy fast expo builds.

Q: You made the entrance by coming down from a crane. Flash’s appearance seemed cooler than yours, so were you jealous?
A: I like to ride those things. I became a dizzy because the thing kept on shaking. Flash did make a better appearance but since he was the past champion and because he’s the best player right now, I couldn’t complain.

Q: Your teammates must have helped you a lot
A: I’ve always said this, but I think our Terran players are the best players. I’m really thankful that they helped me so much. I will have to treat them soon.

Q: How will you use your prize money?
A: Although I’m an adult, I trust my parents with my money so I will give it to them.

Q: There are a lot of bad things happening in CJ in addition to eSports.
A: There have been a lot of bad incidents recently. We will have to try harder to heal our fans’ scars. The atmosphere in our team will get better due to my win so we will change a lot. We will finish strong in Proleague.

Q: Anything else?
A: There were so many fans today. My family and my relatives all came to watch me. A lot of people came so I want to thank them. I hope they continue to cheer for me.


Original Article: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=107008&db=interview

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- 우승을 차지한 소감이 어떤가?
▲ 박세저어 선수와 이영호 선수가 경기할 때 내심 이영호 선수가 올라오길 바랐다. 내가 결승에 가게되면 최강의 프로게이머인 이영호와 붙는다면 09년 김정우의 실력을 보여주고 싶었다. 이영호 선수가 굉장히 잘하셨는데 내가 운이 조금 더 좋았다. 정말 기쁘다.

- 첫 결승이었는데 긴장되지는 않았나?
▲ 국내에서 이렇게 많은 분들 앞에서 경기한 것은 처음이다. 하지만 난 체질인 것 같다. 사람이 많으면 경기가 더 잘된다. 관중이 적으면 오히려 게임이 잘 안되는 것 같다. 사실 0:2 상황까지는 스스로 화가 많이 났다. 준비를 정말 많이했는데 이영호 선수의 거센 공격에 당황하고 말았다. 3세트부터 주위에서 좋은 조언도 해주시고, 집중한 것이 좋았다고 생각한다.

- 1세트에서 재경기 판정이 내려졌는데, 지장은 없었나?
▲ 변명으로 들릴지는 모르겠지만 1세트 재경기 이후 대기 시간이 길었다. 그 때 마음이 약해지기도 했다. 제대로 플레이를 하지 못했다. 큰 무대에서 재경기 판정이 나서 당황스럽기는 했다.

- 3세트부터 공격적인 플레이를 펼치던데.
▲ 3세트부터 공격적인 플레이를 했다. 준비를 많이 한 만큼 위치에 따라 전략을 생각해 놓았다. 공격적인 플레이를 할 수 있는 자리가 걸리기도 했고, 2세트까지 너무 소극적이었다고 생각했다. 그래서 적극적으로 경기를 하려고 마음 먹었다.

- 0:2 상황에서 어떤 조언을 들었나?
▲ 0:2로 지고 있었지만 경기는 끝난 것이 아니지 않나. 나는 재재재재경기도 했다. 결승전 경험이 있는 (변)형태 형이 평소와 다르게 너무 잘해줬다. 부담갖지 말라고 조언을 해줬다. 그 덕분에 마음을 잡을 수 있었다. 감독님도 비슷한 말씀을 해주셨다.

- 재재재재경기의 경험이 오늘 도움이 된 것 같은데.
▲ 재재재재경기 이후로 확실히 내가 바뀐 것 같기는 하다. 0:2로 밀리고 있었지만 미동도 하지 않았다. 좋은 조언까지 들어서 역전을 할 수 있었다.

- 4세트에서 이영호의 센터 배럭을 발견했다.
▲ 사실 다전제를 많이 해보지 않아서 어떤 식으로 해야할 것인지 감을 잘 잡지 못한 상태였다. 하지만 오늘 하면서 많은 것을 깨달았다. 3세트에서 손쉽게 승리를 따냈는데, 4세트에서는 이영호 선수가 약이 올라서 그런 전략을 할 것 같았다. 원래 준비한 것은 이게 아니었다. 내 감을 믿고 중앙에 오버로드를 보냈다. 중앙에서 배럭을 보고 '걸려 들었구나'라는 생각을 했다. 이겼다고 생각하면 역전을 당하는 경우가 많았기 때문에 마음을 놓지는 않았다.





- 마지막 세트는 어땠는지 궁금하다.
▲ 1세트 때 한번 재경기가 나오면서 굉장히 고민이 많았다. 5세트는 우승을 하겠다는 생각보다 부담없이 게임을 하자는 생각을 했다.

- 5세트에서는 이영호의 생더블을 염두에 두고 있었는가?
▲ 염두에 뒀다기 보다는 1세트 때 이영호 선수가 입구를 막았다. 그래서 굉장히 고민을 많이 하고 준비한 빌드다. 생더블이나 배럭 더블 등 빠른 멀티를 노린 빌드였다.

- 입장할 때 크레인틀 타고 내려왔는데 무섭지 않았나? 그리고 이영호의 등장신이 조금 더 멋있었는데 질투나지는 않았는지 궁금하다.
▲ 원래 놀이기구를 잘 타는 편이다. 별다른 느낌은 없었는데 흔들리는 바람에 약간 어지럽더라. 이영호 선수가 나보다 멋있게 등장하기는 했는데 지난 시즌 우승자이고, 최강의 선수니까 그 정도는 어쩔 수 없다고 생각한다.

- 많은 팀원들이 도와줬을 것 같다.
▲ 항상 말해왔는데 우리 팀 테란 선수들이 가장 잘하는 것 같다. 우리 팀 테란 선수들이 정말 열심히 도와줘서 고맙다. 도와준 만큼 내가 크게 한 턱 쏴야할 것 같다.

- 상금은 어떻게 사용할 생각인가?
▲ 성인이기는 하지만 아직 부모님께서 내 수입을 관리해주고 계신다. 일단 부모님께 드릴 생각이다.

- 요즘 e스포츠 뿐만 아니라 CJ에도 안 좋은 일이 있는데.
▲ 안 좋은 일이 많은 요즘이다. 지금부터 열심히 해서 팬들의 상처를 치유해줘야 한다고 생각한다. 앞으로 우리 팀도 내 우승으로 인해서 분위기를 타서 확 달라질 것 같다. 프로리그에서도 힘차게 올라갈 수 있을 것이다.

- 더 하고 싶은 말이 있다면?
▲ 오늘 정말 많은 팬들이 와주셨다. 가족과 친척도 서른 분 정도 오셨다. 굉장히 많이 오셨는데 모두 감사드린다. 앞으로도 더욱 많이 응원해주셨으면 좋겠다.





Source: Fomos


One thing I would like to ask from all of you is to stay away from extreme fanboyism/fangirlism since the LR is exploding with them already. Both of them played well in such a pressuring environment. Thanks!
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 14:20:58
May 22 2010 14:13 GMT
#2
YES!!!! THANK YOU LYRIENE!!! OUR OWN TRANSLATOR Bonjwa.

After your cousin though. He's still done more because of Hyungjoon's program.

Gonna start reading now.

Edit:

OK, finished reading.

Ironic that Iris helped Effort to pull a ggplay.

I knew that Overlord scout in game 4 wasn't a coincident.

I wish there is more personal revelation from Effort than this. Seems a pretty standard interview.

But whatever, GO EFFORT!
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
May 22 2010 14:16 GMT
#3
cant believe the guy who was struggling against Gogo in Ro16 beat Flash in the finals. Way to go Effort!
Fredflintstone
Profile Joined January 2009
439 Posts
May 22 2010 14:17 GMT
#4
Thanks for the translation!!
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Congrats to Effort!!!! I knew he could do it. The last 3 games were super intense.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 14:18:41
May 22 2010 14:17 GMT
#5
thank you lyriene
<3 effort <3Cho <3 Iris <3 CJ

I hope people wont be grudgeful cause of my stupid rage comments in the LR thread
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 22 2010 14:18 GMT
#6
thanks a lot for translating. cool interview.
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Fulgrim
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States560 Posts
May 22 2010 14:18 GMT
#7
Oh flash.....
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swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
May 22 2010 14:21 GMT
#8
...


...


he looks human
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 22 2010 14:23 GMT
#9
Such a great day for Starcraft. GG Effort. Well deserved win.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
62 Posts
May 22 2010 14:26 GMT
#10
Thank you very much! nice read
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 22 2010 14:28 GMT
#11
This is definitely great for effort & CJ after the savior incidents.

Congrats to Effort. he really outplayed Flash in those last 3 games.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 14:38:21
May 22 2010 14:38 GMT
#12
A gold medal won by Effort, a CJ Entus rookie helped by Iris who was so close to achieving one himself and Coach Cho, one of the oldest serving coaches and definitely the one who trusts most in his players...

Is there anything better for a CJ fan?
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 22 2010 14:40 GMT
#13
Nice interview.

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Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
May 22 2010 14:41 GMT
#14
You are great Lyriene, thanks for translating. That first picture is awesome too
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#15
I'm happy for Effort and CJ. After all the shit that Savior put his teammates through, this will lift their spirits.
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Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
May 22 2010 14:44 GMT
#16
“I wasn’t shaken even when the score was 0-2.”
Yeah right.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
shalafi
Profile Joined July 2008
394 Posts
May 22 2010 14:45 GMT
#17
<3 effort

Being able to keep a strong mindset after losing two games is quite admirable.

Specially considering the lack of experience.
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
May 22 2010 14:46 GMT
#18
On May 22 2010 23:38 SuperArc wrote:
A gold medal won by Effort, a CJ Entus rookie helped by Iris who was so close to achieving one himself and Coach Cho, one of the oldest serving coaches and definitely the one who trusts most in his players...

Is there anything better for a CJ fan?


sAviOr could turn out to be innocent... I wish T.T
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 22 2010 14:48 GMT
#19
On May 22 2010 22:01 Hot_Bid wrote:
After all that stuff with Savior, I feel so happy and proud for Coach Cho now.

Effort you're our ace now, and all that's left is qualifying for PL playoffs.


YES!!!
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Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5588 Posts
May 22 2010 14:51 GMT
#20
EFFORT, CJ fighting!!
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 22 2010 14:53 GMT
#21
thanks for the trans

I LB effort in this OSL finals,i am so proud of him!!
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Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 22 2010 14:55 GMT
#22
wow giving money to his parents, damn...!
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
May 22 2010 14:57 GMT
#23
Effort! CJ! Berserker! :D
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
May 22 2010 14:58 GMT
#24
Great job Effort

and don't worry Flash, get em next time
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 22 2010 15:10 GMT
#25
Current Translator bonjwa!

Fuck yeah Effort, what an exciting comeback!
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Korea (South)259 Posts
May 22 2010 15:14 GMT
#26
Q: How will you use your prize money?
A: Although I’m an adult, I trust my parents with my money so I will give it to them.


Well said ahah!
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United States3505 Posts
May 22 2010 15:21 GMT
#27
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Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 15:24:38
May 22 2010 15:24 GMT
#28
UNBELIEVABLE UPSET YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS EFFORT IS WIN EFFORT IS WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
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YESSSSSSSSS YESSSSSSSSSSS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS EFFORT GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO YEAAAAAAAAAA EFFORT > FLASH FUCK YEA YOU GUYS WERE ALL WRONG CJ FTW YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 22 2010 15:25 GMT
#29
I am so sad Flash lost. few hours ago he was up ahead 2-0.

The last 2 sets ended very fast .

Ah, I was hoping for Golden Mouse, Dual gold, Bonjwa ToT .

Feeling hurt ~ Maybe I shouldn't stay home watch final during week end again. Just go out, have fun. and come back home see result..
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Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States482 Posts
May 22 2010 15:29 GMT
#30
Previously I have always disliked Effort but the kid is really winning me over.

Seems like a grounded guy and a great player. I'm happy for him
Triple7
Profile Joined April 2009
United States656 Posts
May 22 2010 15:30 GMT
#31
Well, he had Kim Carrier's Blessing on his side, after all!
Thanks for all the translations Lyriene, during and after!
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gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
May 22 2010 15:32 GMT
#32
Flash T_T
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magicbullet
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Singapore163 Posts
May 22 2010 15:34 GMT
#33
Do anyone think Effort looks much more handsome than usual?
In the long run we are all dead - J.M. Keynes
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9013 Posts
May 22 2010 15:36 GMT
#34
GJ Effort. Flash still has a long way to go but I hope he will get the golden mouse as soon as BW is alive.
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
May 22 2010 15:58 GMT
#35
And the Beat Flash OSL has come to an end.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 22 2010 16:04 GMT
#36
OMG!! Way to go effort I knew you could do it! :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
faction123
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 16:14:19
May 22 2010 16:13 GMT
#37
Grats Effort. Flash losing a BO5 to someone who isn't Jaedong is the best thing that could've happened to keep people interested in Brood War. I love Flash yet i'm very happy Effort won, especially in a comeback from 2-0 down. He's not invincible.
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dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
May 22 2010 16:15 GMT
#38
33,520 US dollars = 40 mil won.

Although I'm sure you can buy a lot more in Korea with 40 mil won than you can buy in the US for 30 thousand...

Congrats Effort! I never believed in you because of Movie's run but I'm happy a CJ player could win it again.
Moktira is da bomb
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
May 22 2010 16:16 GMT
#39
re OSL plz
www.brainyweb.ca //web stuff!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36373 Posts
May 22 2010 16:32 GMT
#40
Q: Anyone you'd like to thank?
A: I'd like to personally thank Hot_Bid for being the only TeamLiquid staff to predict my victory.

You are welcome.
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StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
May 22 2010 16:32 GMT
#41
lol at all the people saying how effort looks so handsome now. CJ forever.
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
May 22 2010 16:34 GMT
#42
FML i went to sleep when he was down 2-0 and flash beat him convincingly thinking he could never come back...
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
May 22 2010 16:36 GMT
#43
was shaken enuff to build his 2nd base at the 3rd normally and ling allin kinda
skyhighftw on iccup
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 22 2010 16:38 GMT
#44
On May 23 2010 01:32 [ur]Chin wrote:
lol at all the people saying how effort looks so handsome now. CJ forever.


i dunno about handsome but he's always looked normal in interviews, his face muscles tighten when he plays so he looks like an alien then.

also has he always had 450 APM?
eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
May 22 2010 16:55 GMT
#45
gz effort he deserved it after such a strong comeback 0-2 down versus one of the best starcraft players ever
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
May 22 2010 17:01 GMT
#46
Thanks for the translation!
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 22 2010 17:02 GMT
#47
I can't believe this happened. What the fuck?
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 17:15:54
May 22 2010 17:15 GMT
#48
Flash decided not to show up.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 22 2010 17:21 GMT
#49
i'm so proud of effort
BW is back
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
May 22 2010 17:26 GMT
#50
Thanks for the translation.
Grats to EffOrt!!
Uncle Leo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
60 Posts
May 22 2010 17:29 GMT
#51
Wow...can't believe Flash lost with a 2 game lead...
OptimusTom
Profile Joined October 2009
United States154 Posts
May 22 2010 17:30 GMT
#52
On May 22 2010 23:21 swanized wrote:
...


...


he looks human


Bahahahahahaha

Alienzerg is down to earth
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
May 22 2010 17:31 GMT
#53
Ah... huge props to Effort - ridiculous feat for him to overcome a 0-2 on his first finals with not that much BoX experience... deserves this win. <3

Flash... ;______;

Thanks Lyriene for translating... <3
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
May 22 2010 17:33 GMT
#54
Thanks for translation ;D!
Enjoy the game
MadJack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Peru357 Posts
May 22 2010 17:36 GMT
#55
This was as exciting as watching Rocky IV, just right then when rocky hurst drago, and someone says "See?! See?! hes not a machine, hes human! hes human!..."
이제동 화이팅! / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jjD3ro-Xk /
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
May 22 2010 17:38 GMT
#56
woo EFFORT FIGHTING! KIM JUNG WOO!
CJ Entusman #58 | Gogogo Stats
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 22 2010 17:42 GMT
#57
“I wasn’t shaken even when the score was 0-2.”
I really question this.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
May 22 2010 17:42 GMT
#58
Congratulations effort! You did what seemed impossible just a week ago.

Now if Jaedong seems to be leading in the pool by just a little.
@DreamingBird
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
May 22 2010 17:44 GMT
#59
On May 23 2010 02:42 slimshady wrote:
“I wasn’t shaken even when the score was 0-2.”
I really question this.


i think everyone is questioning this
CJ Entusman #58 | Gogogo Stats
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
May 22 2010 17:50 GMT
#60
i am raging so hard

i should watch the games
Writer
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 22 2010 18:06 GMT
#61
Massive congratulations are in order for this kid
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
sAw
Profile Joined November 2008
965 Posts
May 22 2010 18:15 GMT
#62
Dramatic series, if only every final could be this intense. Delays weren't as epic, though.
I hope this great victory will help the whole team to recover from past events. Thanks for the translation, always appreciated.
lowbright
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
308 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 18:18:39
May 22 2010 18:16 GMT
#63
MESSIAH bringing redemption for CJ and he who must not be named.

I was so dejected when he was down 0-2 but he really came through in the end. I hoped for him to win after he won in proleague but this series was much more epic than I expected. It was better than jaedong vs fantasy.

I'm glad kespa handled the monitor problem without too many problems (although I would feel cheated if flash won after that).

Also, it was heartwarming to see all the fans there, without any empty seats. iirc, the announcers said that some of the people even came a day in advance and camped out for the best seats. I'm glad that e-sports is still alive and kicking and that the OSL finals is still the OSL finals ^^
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #49
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
May 22 2010 18:22 GMT
#64
This finals show much confidence/mental strength is important in succeeding. It doesn't matter if you are skillful or not, if you aren't mentally strong enough you won't go far. Now I don't want to deny what Flash has done so far, but this really makes me impressed with Jaedong's mind.
I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work the luckier I am.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13021 Posts
May 22 2010 18:28 GMT
#65
Well deserved OSL title enjoy it Effort !
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
May 22 2010 18:30 GMT
#66
I seriously cannot believe this, I stayed up until 7:48 AM EXACTLY thinking Effort would lose 3-0. I pondered for about 10 mins if I should go to bed or not, seeing that I was already up for hours. Eventually, I just gave up staying awake and went to sleep.

JUST TO FIND OUT that Effort won 3-2. I wish I could've stayed up to watch that happen. It must've been amazing for those who watched it live. I think this is what we needed for a little boost of hope in E-Sports, exciting games.

Anyways, congrats to Effort. Hopefully, Flash beats Jaedong so it can make a good story .
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
May 22 2010 18:42 GMT
#67
On May 23 2010 03:30 YoonHo wrote:
I seriously cannot believe this, I stayed up until 7:48 AM EXACTLY thinking Effort would lose 3-0. I pondered for about 10 mins if I should go to bed or not, seeing that I was already up for hours. Eventually, I just gave up staying awake and went to sleep.

JUST TO FIND OUT that Effort won 3-2. I wish I could've stayed up to watch that happen. It must've been amazing for those who watched it live. I think this is what we needed for a little boost of hope in E-Sports, exciting games.


you probably wouldve fallen asleep on your keyboard and woken up with waffle-face, so don't sweat it
THE ANSWER IS 288
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
May 22 2010 18:50 GMT
#68
Such an honest fellow.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
May 22 2010 18:51 GMT
#69
I Hate this out come... Flash damn you for greedy builds goda damn it...
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
RedMorning
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada117 Posts
May 22 2010 19:02 GMT
#70
Wow Flash...Thats what happens when you play stupid for 3 games.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
May 22 2010 19:05 GMT
#71
I love how majority of the posts say that only reason Effort won is because Flash played like he was retarded.

I give credit to Effort's performance, but I got to agree with mass majority about the fact that Flash picked some dumbass build orders/ made some rash decisions during games 3-5.

I'm mind boggled that Flash got swept 3 games in a row by Effort...
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
poptartazn2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States15 Posts
May 22 2010 19:09 GMT
#72
More like... Effort won through 1) Speedling 2) Scouted BBS 3) Speedling. Yup, our 2010 OSL champion.
12 point FPL. Can we call him bonjwa NOW?
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
May 22 2010 19:11 GMT
#73
On May 23 2010 04:09 poptartazn2 wrote:
More like... Effort won through 1) Speedling 2) Scouted BBS 3) Speedling. Yup, our 2010 OSL champion.

flash beat himself with 14cc, dont lie
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prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4193 Posts
May 22 2010 19:12 GMT
#74
LOL EFFORT! FIGHTING!

It was 2-0 flash and I go to sleep (7:30 am), only to find out effort owns flash afterwards. Shouldn't have gone to sleep.
( ・´ー・`)
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
May 22 2010 19:19 GMT
#75
Massive props to Effort. While some may dismiss his win as a gimmicky win, some of the tactics he displayed in games 3 and 5 were absolutely spectacular.
God Bless
MrBob
Profile Joined November 2009
93 Posts
May 22 2010 19:19 GMT
#76
i guess flash getting 0-2ed by CJ was a bad omen after all...
Who can troll the past can troll the future. Who can troll the present can troll the past.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 22 2010 19:24 GMT
#77
So this is like a preview for Jaedong? Looks like Flash will hit the wall into slump... Up 2-0 vs a struggling lately ZvT effort... How did it happen~.~
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
May 22 2010 19:28 GMT
#78
On May 22 2010 23:38 SuperArc wrote:
A gold medal won by Effort, a CJ Entus rookie helped by Iris who was so close to achieving one himself and Coach Cho, one of the oldest serving coaches and definitely the one who trusts most in his players...

Is there anything better for a CJ fan?


It is awesome, great comeback victory by Effort. So proud as a CJ fan. Now we just need movie and skyhigh to start winning.

Thanks for the translation by the way, congrats to Effort Kim Jung Woo !!!
Nothing to it but to do it.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
May 22 2010 19:34 GMT
#79
On May 23 2010 04:09 poptartazn2 wrote:
More like... Effort won through 1) Speedling 2) Scouted BBS 3) Speedling. Yup, our 2010 OSL champion.

lol, gtfo.
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
May 22 2010 19:37 GMT
#80
FUCK YOU EFFORT
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
May 22 2010 19:47 GMT
#81
On May 23 2010 04:11 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 04:09 poptartazn2 wrote:
More like... Effort won through 1) Speedling 2) Scouted BBS 3) Speedling. Yup, our 2010 OSL champion.

flash beat himself with 14cc, dont lie



Im very happy for Effort and CJ!! Yay!!!
But gotta question Flash decision to go BBS/14CC in the last 2 games... I cant help but think that he just wanted to win both titles, and thus not produce too much material for Jaedong to study... But if that is the case, then he deserved to loose even more, for underestimating his opponent...

And btw, all who say "ah lucky Effort scouting the BBS", he was sending early drone scouts in every game iirc, so it wasnt luck, more that he was playing safe. And it was so much better then pure's and free's triple blind 12nex...

GG Alien!!!!
I knew u had it in you!!! (and thus i advanced like 150 ranks in liquibet :D )
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
May 22 2010 19:48 GMT
#82
On May 23 2010 04:37 never_Nal wrote:
FUCK YOU EFFORT



U mean FUCK YEA EFFORT
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 19:51:10
May 22 2010 19:50 GMT
#83
Good strategic play by Effort. If he allowed Flash to get to late game, that would be immense trouble. Could had been 3-0.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 22 2010 19:51 GMT
#84
On May 23 2010 04:47 Kuzmorgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 04:11 nath wrote:
On May 23 2010 04:09 poptartazn2 wrote:
More like... Effort won through 1) Speedling 2) Scouted BBS 3) Speedling. Yup, our 2010 OSL champion.

flash beat himself with 14cc, dont lie



Im very happy for Effort and CJ!! Yay!!!
But gotta question Flash decision to go BBS/14CC in the last 2 games... I cant help but think that he just wanted to win both titles, and thus not produce too much material for Jaedong to study... But if that is the case, then he deserved to loose even more, for underestimating his opponent...

And btw, all who say "ah lucky Effort scouting the BBS", he was sending early drone scouts in every game iirc, so it wasnt luck, more that he was playing safe. And it was so much better then pure's and free's triple blind 12nex...

GG Alien!!!!
I knew u had it in you!!! (and thus i advanced like 150 ranks in liquibet :D )

I'd rather lose to Jaedong than lose the golden mouse.
But I would have BBSed on game 3 as Flash(I thought so right after game 2), for the simple reason that Effort liked going 3 hatch before pool. Same could justify 14cc. But it didn't work out, as greedy builds sometimes don't. Nothing out of the ordinary.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
May 22 2010 20:03 GMT
#85
Wonderful interview! Thank you for the translation!

Effort's right...this will go a long way towards healing the fan's scars.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States405 Posts
May 22 2010 20:50 GMT
#86
I went to sleep after Flash had a 2-0 lead...

Holy shit man.
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/Happy2.gif
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32271 Posts
May 22 2010 20:51 GMT
#87
YES! thanks a lot for translating!
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 22 2010 20:55 GMT
#88
On May 22 2010 23:16 dani_caliKorea wrote:
cant believe the guy who was struggling against Gogo in Ro16 beat Flash in the finals. Way to go Effort!


Any given sunday, man.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
May 22 2010 21:09 GMT
#89
nice interview. I was really disappointed with the result and the games but grats to Effort, seems like a great guy.
(>'.')>
xxxxxxb
Profile Joined October 2009
155 Posts
May 22 2010 21:13 GMT
#90
On May 22 2010 23:12 Lyriene wrote:
Q: How will you use your prize money?
A: Although I’m an adult, I trust my parents with my money so I will give it to them.


Such a momma's boy, spend it on rolex, gucci and whores. Must keep the tradition alive.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
May 22 2010 21:17 GMT
#91
Seriously, why the long delay?

A monitor problem (granted, there was a mic problem right after), should not take more than 10 minutes to fix, let alone an hour.

The organizers need to get their shit together.
gaizka
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States991 Posts
May 22 2010 21:18 GMT
#92
I just woke up. I lost hope after the first two games, thankfully effort didn't. Congratulations effort!!!
meemoe_uk
Profile Joined February 2008
United Kingdom29 Posts
May 22 2010 21:28 GMT
#93
[image loading]
hellobye
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada82 Posts
May 22 2010 21:41 GMT
#94
thank god effort beat that idiot who claimed to have found enlightenment
hello... bye...
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 22 2010 21:48 GMT
#95
On May 23 2010 02:44 Cheeseburgered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 02:42 slimshady wrote:
“I wasn’t shaken even when the score was 0-2.”
I really question this.


i think everyone is questioning this


how shaken could he have been? he came back, didn't he?
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
May 22 2010 21:50 GMT
#96
Thanks for translating and nice interview.

Aw, Effort is so cute. I'm a huge flash fan but I'm pretty happy for effort. He's such a nice guy ^^

Flash will have other titles as well. It's cool to see the love being spread around a bit
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
May 22 2010 21:53 GMT
#97
I went to bed after the series went 0-2 ; ;
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
May 22 2010 21:54 GMT
#98
so true flash just had to play normal and win easily
skyhighftw on iccup
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
May 22 2010 21:54 GMT
#99
Great interview and thanks for the amazing effort!(no pun intended) I remember when Effort used to have an air of arrogance(?) about a year or so ago, but with recent interviews and this starleague win he seems to have humbled down and also matured as a player, back then i wasn't a big fan Effort but i can honestly say hes impressed me immensely not only in his play but his changed attitude, props to him and this makes the MSL finals even more critical for the top of BW. Thanks again.
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
podzim
Profile Joined March 2010
Czech Republic41 Posts
May 22 2010 21:57 GMT
#100
Congratulations Effort, you deserved the win after Flash's weird decisions and mismanagement (losing marines here and there, 14 CC ?? @ game 5, etc.).

Let's hope Flash can take a lesson from this and come stronger to win MSL finals against Jaedong.
The glass is already broken
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
May 22 2010 22:54 GMT
#101
I really don't understand why people are saying that Flash messed up game 3. His play was perfect given the information that he had, almost any other zerg would have skimped on lings and planted a hatch at the natural after getting the one at the 3rd up. Then Flash's pressure would have kept the mutas at bay while turrets come up. EffOrt mindfucked Flash in the same way that Snow did in the SPL, using his game sense against him. This wasn't Flash's mistake, it was EffOrt's excellent build order and play. Remember kids, in a game of imperfect information it is possible to play correctly and do the "wrong" thing at the same time.
Creator of LoLTool.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
May 22 2010 23:04 GMT
#102
Q: Your teammates must have helped you a lot
A: I’ve always said this, but I think our Terran players are the best players. I’m really thankful that they helped me so much. I will have to treat them soon.


must be so good vs cheese because he practices with skyhigh all day lol
I like starcraft
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
May 22 2010 23:18 GMT
#103
Can't believe how much money Flash must have made today from betting.

j/k of course :D
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
May 22 2010 23:18 GMT
#104
Iris you legend.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 23:22:56
May 22 2010 23:22 GMT
#105
On May 23 2010 07:54 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand why people are saying that Flash messed up game 3. His play was perfect given the information that he had, almost any other zerg would have skimped on lings and planted a hatch at the natural after getting the one at the 3rd up. Then Flash's pressure would have kept the mutas at bay while turrets come up. EffOrt mindfucked Flash in the same way that Snow did in the SPL, using his game sense against him. This wasn't Flash's mistake, it was EffOrt's excellent build order and play. Remember kids, in a game of imperfect information it is possible to play correctly and do the "wrong" thing at the same time.

His marine movement sucked. He rushed out without his medics and his marine moved out in a single line instead of keeping it in a ball. Its unflashlike. And he didn't move his marine around to check around for zerglings.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
May 22 2010 23:23 GMT
#106
i've never really though much of effort before now but his performance in the osl made him such a baller in my eyes. to come back from being down 0-2 and after the whole regame situation.....insane that he could pull it back together in the face of one of the fiercest vZ players the game has ever seen
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
May 22 2010 23:27 GMT
#107
Who needs savior when you have EffOrt anyway. Glad he won, Flash will be back for sure.

Can't wait for the MSL finals.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
zerodahero
Profile Joined December 2009
United States358 Posts
May 22 2010 23:32 GMT
#108
On May 23 2010 06:28 meemoe_uk wrote:
[image loading]


rofl.

<3 effort, so glad he won. Hopefully it helps CJ put it together and make the playoffs/get over savior's shenanigans.
AleC
Profile Joined December 2009
332 Posts
May 22 2010 23:38 GMT
#109
On May 23 2010 06:28 meemoe_uk wrote:
[image loading]


Rofl I love this xD

Pretty much sums up why he lost

And congrats to Effort!
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 22 2010 23:46 GMT
#110
Savior would be proud watching it in his house.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 23 2010 00:09 GMT
#111
The faces of CJ over the years:
2006-2007:
-_-

2008-2009:
-_-

2009-2010:
-_-

April-2010:
-_-;;

=_=

o_o???

>_<;;;;

May- 2010:
._. !?

*__*

T__T

T____T

PRE-OSL:
-_-

POST-OSL:

....

....

^_^

\_/


You're going to be okay CJ...









The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
May 23 2010 00:15 GMT
#112
On May 23 2010 09:09 Warrior Madness wrote:
\_/

LOL
yoofor
Profile Joined December 2007
United States143 Posts
May 23 2010 02:02 GMT
#113
On May 23 2010 08:46 LunarDestiny wrote:
Savior would be proud watching it in his house cell.


fixed.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 02:08:39
May 23 2010 02:06 GMT
#114
Excellent interview. Though I like Flash, EffOrt deserves this. He provided very mature and appropriate answers to all the questions.

Edit: Jaedong has pulled ahead in the poll because of this.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
May 23 2010 04:02 GMT
#115
Hitherto shall Flash come, but no further.
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
May 23 2010 04:23 GMT
#116
Wow cant believe Effort won.
http://www.starcraftdream.com
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
May 23 2010 04:53 GMT
#117
Hah ahah

Mad props to Effort. The only thing he could have done to make his victory complete is keep the CJ face.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 23 2010 04:58 GMT
#118
Btw, so OSL champion only gets about $40,000?

I thought it was more than that...
SageFantasma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
May 23 2010 05:09 GMT
#119
Excellent finals, I was impressed all the way through. I was almost certain that EffOrt was done when he was down 2-0. However, I was happily proven wrong, and got to see even more of the game, which was nothing short of awesome! Very mature interview as well, good job out there EffOrt!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
May 23 2010 05:13 GMT
#120
At one point of view I'm sad Flash lost
but on the otherhand I believe flash will have many other chances to prove himself

Grats to Effort! Although I didn't see the game due to food poisoning I believe the whole series will be worth the watch!
dats racist
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 23 2010 05:31 GMT
#121
Q: How will you use your prize money?
A: Although I’m an adult, I trust my parents with my money so I will give it to them.

WHAT?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
vOddy
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden402 Posts
May 23 2010 05:33 GMT
#122
I feel for Flash. He fucked up, he could have won that so hard... He lost because he fucked up, he's still a much better player. Damn he must be pissed off. I feel sorry for him.

And no, I'm not even a Flash fan.
"You generate awesomeness. It just flows from you."
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 05:45:24
May 23 2010 05:44 GMT
#123
i watched the vods. god he was sweating
and yea. it hought flash's plays were abit careless/greedy
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
May 23 2010 07:40 GMT
#124
Thanks for the translation Lyriene!

And grats to Effort, well played
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 23 2010 08:50 GMT
#125
oh, almost forgot. thanks for speedy translation lyriene ^_^
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
May 23 2010 08:54 GMT
#126
I`m really curious what advice Iris gave him ^^
NotGood-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States134 Posts
May 23 2010 08:57 GMT
#127
Congrats to someone taking out the flash machine.
cncbmb
Profile Joined August 2009
238 Posts
May 23 2010 21:46 GMT
#128
How can we watch the crane/plane entrances? I couldn't find them in the jon747 videos
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
May 23 2010 22:42 GMT
#129


Congratulations Effort!
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
May 23 2010 23:18 GMT
#130
well done to both players for reaching the finals and giving us a thrilling finals
and thanx for the translation
6 days to msl finals come on guys i need some hype!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-23 23:57:19
May 23 2010 23:56 GMT
#131
EffOrt is my fave player now. But I still don't like CJ >.>
+ Show Spoiler +
EDIT: Why the fuck would you go a 14cc in the most important starleague game of the season?
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
nastyyy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States262 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 00:56:52
May 24 2010 00:55 GMT
#132
hahaha. I watched the whole series last night. When I clicked show spoilers on the OP, I was surprised to see effort's face. lol. Apparently, I altered my memory.
one time
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
May 24 2010 01:36 GMT
#133
holy f..... bisu awe face i did not expect to see this.. holy effort go.go must be so angry..
in The Kong line forever
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
May 24 2010 01:41 GMT
#134
On May 23 2010 07:54 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand why people are saying that Flash messed up game 3. His play was perfect given the information that he had, almost any other zerg would have skimped on lings and planted a hatch at the natural after getting the one at the 3rd up. Then Flash's pressure would have kept the mutas at bay while turrets come up. EffOrt mindfucked Flash in the same way that Snow did in the SPL, using his game sense against him. This wasn't Flash's mistake, it was EffOrt's excellent build order and play. Remember kids, in a game of imperfect information it is possible to play correctly and do the "wrong" thing at the same time.


correct me if im wrong but, didn't flash see the gas timing?

Cause if he saw the gas timing, he would then instantly know it was going to be a 2 hatch build.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
May 24 2010 01:53 GMT
#135
On May 24 2010 07:42 Appendix wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aw-42JO3qk

Congratulations Effort!

sick sick video
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 24 2010 03:03 GMT
#136
On May 24 2010 07:42 Appendix wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aw-42JO3qk

Congratulations Effort!


fuck, that was AWESOME!!!! sick, sick, sick!

puta que pariu
BW is back
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
May 24 2010 03:06 GMT
#137
On May 24 2010 10:41 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 07:54 Goragoth wrote:
I really don't understand why people are saying that Flash messed up game 3. His play was perfect given the information that he had, almost any other zerg would have skimped on lings and planted a hatch at the natural after getting the one at the 3rd up. Then Flash's pressure would have kept the mutas at bay while turrets come up. EffOrt mindfucked Flash in the same way that Snow did in the SPL, using his game sense against him. This wasn't Flash's mistake, it was EffOrt's excellent build order and play. Remember kids, in a game of imperfect information it is possible to play correctly and do the "wrong" thing at the same time.


correct me if im wrong but, didn't flash see the gas timing?

Cause if he saw the gas timing, he would then instantly know it was going to be a 2 hatch build.

I'm not sure what you are saying. Of course Flash knew that it was a 2 hatch muta build that was coming, that's why he moved out his marines in the first place. The timing would have worked out such that the marines would have reached EffOrt's base and started pressuring the moment the mutas were ready, forcing the mutas to stay home and defend (Flash has demonstrated this multiple times in games against 2 hatch muta in the last few months). Spending money on extra lings instead of a third hatch after building a hatch at the second expansion is highly unusual however, especially for a macro player like EffOrt.
Creator of LoLTool.
oolon
Profile Joined August 2009
United States27 Posts
May 24 2010 05:57 GMT
#138
What else could you ask for? Flash, Effort, and Jaedong all competing for MSL/OSL titles together. It's just a convergence of win.

The real winners are the fans.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
May 24 2010 10:17 GMT
#139
Why is everybody saying flash threw the games away? He hasn't really been good at BO5's. If it stretches all the way, you will see 1 14cc, bbs(or other proxy rax), and a bunch of 1 rax CC. Same thing last time he played JD. Part of his problem is that he only has 3 build orders. He plays them very well, but even so he becomes predictable in a rock paper scissors sense.

What I mean to point out is that Flash didn't do anything he normally does not do when he BBS or 14CC. He uses those to enhance his 1rax CC play. 14CC gives him an econ advantage that other players might not expect, and the proxy rax etc keeps them honest. It is not un-flash like to use these build orders.

Baller Fanclub || CheAse Fanclub || Scarlett Fanclub || LJD FIGHTING!
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
May 24 2010 23:34 GMT
#140
On May 24 2010 08:56 TriniMasta[wD] wrote:
EffOrt is my fave player now. But I still don't like CJ >.>
+ Show Spoiler +
EDIT: Why the fuck would you go a 14cc in the most important starleague game of the season?



bandwagon bullshit...
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
Troilus
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 22:19:16
May 25 2010 22:18 GMT
#141
I just watched the series right now, since I've been to bella Italia the last few days. My liquibet was in favour of EffOrt (yay!) but when he was 0-2 behind I took a brake to go for a walk with my dog, it was so frustrating! When Effort won 3-2 I was cheering so hard, I think I woke up my whole family (including the dog)!!! So much joy, now I'm one step closer to making my grandma an esports-fan!
TLO ftw!
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
May 25 2010 22:45 GMT
#142
On May 23 2010 00:34 magicbullet wrote:
Do anyone think Effort looks much more handsome than usual?


Gold-digger much?
plan3t
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada75 Posts
May 30 2010 17:11 GMT
#143
Effort seems like a really nice guy. Glad he won.
Dawww'd when he said he likes to ride cranes.
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