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[Interview] Korean Air OSL 2010 SemiFinal B Winner - Page 7

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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 16:03:18
May 15 2010 16:02 GMT
#121
On May 15 2010 11:53 MrHoon wrote:
man you guys all turned too nice :x
if this was 1 year ago this thread would be so shit infested I wouldn't even want to click on it


I don't think half the people in this thread were around last summer and the end of the 2009 Proleague season. If they were, we wouldn't be getting all of these people saying things like; "EffOrt's ZvT is abysmal" as if it's conventional wisdom and has always been the case.

(Z)EffOrt is a very appropriate calibre of player for a finals.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
JaedongMidasAction
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 16:46:24
May 15 2010 16:45 GMT
#122
Effort's gonna get owned by Flash, but Jaedong's gonna demolish Flash. I hope JD plays standard to show everyone that he is really a king too.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 15 2010 16:52 GMT
#123
On May 16 2010 01:45 JaedongMidasAction wrote:
Effort's gonna get owned by Flash, but Jaedong's gonna demolish Flash. I hope JD plays standard to show everyone that he is really a king too.


Pretty bold statement, both of them tbh. I wouldn't write Effort off just like that, though he probably won't win. And JD vs Flash isn't going to be one-sided either - unless Flash runs out of Pocari Sweat.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32280 Posts
May 15 2010 17:06 GMT
#124
I BELIEVE EFFORT.
Moderator<:3-/-<
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
May 15 2010 17:32 GMT
#125
On May 16 2010 01:02 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2010 11:53 MrHoon wrote:
man you guys all turned too nice :x
if this was 1 year ago this thread would be so shit infested I wouldn't even want to click on it


I don't think half the people in this thread were around last summer and the end of the 2009 Proleague season. If they were, we wouldn't be getting all of these people saying things like; "EffOrt's ZvT is abysmal" as if it's conventional wisdom and has always been the case.

(Z)EffOrt is a very appropriate calibre of player for a finals.


Your point is pretty invalid. Around the same time Bisu was destroying everyone as well and no one could argue his spot as best toss, KT couldn't even make the playoffs and people could argue Fantasy was better than Flash. 1 year is a long time in pro starcraft. Just because effort was doing well 1 year ago means shit.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 16 2010 08:46 GMT
#126
Effort had a stretch of mind numbing dominance against Terran right before the Nate MSL. He was even rumored to consistently defeat Flash in practice, back when Flash was beginning to enter Bonjwa mode.

And then he had this eye brow raising stretch of losing streak against Terran and couldn't get past go.go for 4 rounds.

This series is a good indication that Effort's ZvP is back to his peak form. But can he bring his ZvT back?

I am kinda worried since Skyhigh isn't exactly known for his TvZ as Movie was known for his PvZ. Effort may find it difficult to find the right practice partner.

Not to mention that Flash will face against a Zerg regardless of the outcome in the MSL.



Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
May 16 2010 08:57 GMT
#127
On May 16 2010 17:46 dukethegold wrote:
Effort had a stretch of mind numbing dominance against Terran right before the Nate MSL. He was even rumored to consistently defeat Flash in practice, back when Flash was beginning to enter Bonjwa mode.

And then he had this eye brow raising stretch of losing streak against Terran and couldn't get past go.go for 4 rounds.

This series is a good indication that Effort's ZvP is back to his peak form. But can he bring his ZvT back?

I am kinda worried since Skyhigh isn't exactly known for his TvZ as Movie was known for his PvZ. Effort may find it difficult to find the right practice partner.

Not to mention that Flash will face against a Zerg regardless of the outcome in the MSL.





Check out CJ vs KT for some amazing games involving flash/effort/skyhigh.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
May 16 2010 09:09 GMT
#128
After seeing tonight's games I really can't wait for Flash/Effort
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
May 16 2010 09:43 GMT
#129
On May 16 2010 18:09 CynanMachae wrote:
After seeing tonight's games I really can't wait for Flash/Effort

+ Show Spoiler +
I can't wait it either, looks like EffOrt has recovered his ZvT. (spoilered just in case)
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
ArKaDo
Profile Joined April 2010
France121 Posts
May 20 2010 10:07 GMT
#130
Although I did pray after my match, I want to say thank you to God. I also want to say thank you to the fans who came to cheer for me today. I love you my (Z)EffOrt fans (laughs). I hope many people will come to support me in the finals.

Ha! He ruined the mood saying he praid and everything, a true man would not rely on anyone - even god - to win!
Well do your best EffOrt, even if I can't see you winning.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 20 2010 10:09 GMT
#131
On May 20 2010 19:07 ArKaDo wrote:
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Although I did pray after my match, I want to say thank you to God. I also want to say thank you to the fans who came to cheer for me today. I love you my (Z)EffOrt fans (laughs). I hope many people will come to support me in the finals.

Ha! He ruined the mood saying he praid and everything, a true man would not rely on anyone - even god - to win!
Well do your best EffOrt, even if I can't see you winning.

Hey, nothing wrong with praying.
:<
EffOrt also didn't have to rely on Flash to win, in fact he beat god, eh?

Nah Flash isn't god.
He's just good.
Really really good.

Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 20 2010 10:16 GMT
#132
Well, KT doesn't exactly have the best Zerg players for Flash to practice against. Oh wait. Flash doesn't need to practice. Silly me.

I'm hoping Effort can pull at least a 3-1 (loss) or MAYBEEEE a 3-2 if we're all lucky and Flash's hair gets in his face or something. Orr... We just tag-team it and send Jaedong in. Jaedong, I chose you!
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
HickleStine
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia276 Posts
May 20 2010 11:50 GMT
#133
He talks big. Go Flash.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 20 2010 12:04 GMT
#134
On May 16 2010 17:46 dukethegold wrote:
I am kinda worried since Skyhigh isn't exactly known for his TvZ as Movie was known for his PvZ. Effort may find it difficult to find the right practice partner.

Not to mention that Flash will face against a Zerg regardless of the outcome in the MSL.


But who will flash practice with? :O
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
May 20 2010 15:07 GMT
#135
On May 20 2010 21:04 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 17:46 dukethegold wrote:
I am kinda worried since Skyhigh isn't exactly known for his TvZ as Movie was known for his PvZ. Effort may find it difficult to find the right practice partner.

Not to mention that Flash will face against a Zerg regardless of the outcome in the MSL.


But who will flash practice with? :O

my money is on woongjin zerg for osl, maybe some help from calm for msl.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
May 20 2010 15:35 GMT
#136
Go Effort. Flash can win the MSL!
Ztorm
Profile Joined April 2010
United States9 Posts
May 20 2010 16:02 GMT
#137
On May 20 2010 21:04 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 17:46 dukethegold wrote:
I am kinda worried since Skyhigh isn't exactly known for his TvZ as Movie was known for his PvZ. Effort may find it difficult to find the right practice partner.

Not to mention that Flash will face against a Zerg regardless of the outcome in the MSL.


But who will flash practice with? :O


+ Show Spoiler +
Flash will practice with calm, since calm will want to get revenge on jaedong !
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 16:17:29
May 20 2010 16:17 GMT
#138
On May 16 2010 02:32 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 01:02 tree.hugger wrote:
On May 15 2010 11:53 MrHoon wrote:
man you guys all turned too nice :x
if this was 1 year ago this thread would be so shit infested I wouldn't even want to click on it


I don't think half the people in this thread were around last summer and the end of the 2009 Proleague season. If they were, we wouldn't be getting all of these people saying things like; "EffOrt's ZvT is abysmal" as if it's conventional wisdom and has always been the case.

(Z)EffOrt is a very appropriate calibre of player for a finals.


Your point is pretty invalid. Around the same time Bisu was destroying everyone as well and no one could argue his spot as best toss, KT couldn't even make the playoffs and people could argue Fantasy was better than Flash. 1 year is a long time in pro starcraft. Just because effort was doing well 1 year ago means shit.

I wasn't specifically making the argument that (Z)EffOrt has great ZvT because he had it a year ago. Rather, I was making the argument that we shouldn't be skeptical of his current ZvT form, because we know that he is capable of S-class ZvT.

Even in Bisu's current condition, you can't really say "Bisu's PvZ is terrible..." without qualifying it with something like "...right now". If Bisu started dominating again, you wouldn't get away with saying something like that, because Bisu has a history of great PvZ, which his current form can't take away from him.

Same with EffOrt. The kid has some amazing ZvT, and he's re-discovered it at the right time.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Redx
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands77 Posts
May 21 2010 11:52 GMT
#139
Really like efforts play, GOGO effort!
We live our truest life when we are in dreams awake
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
May 21 2010 12:19 GMT
#140
Could someone be kind enough and explain re-re-re-re game, what does it mean , what happened in ro16

- There’s no way we can avoid asking you a question about your Ro16 re-re-re-re-game.
▲ I feel like the Ro16 re-re-re-re-game incident was a turning point for me. After this, my confidence was fully restored. Because of this, I feel like my gameplay is even smoother now. To be honest I’ve received questions about the re-re-re-re-game so many times I don’t know what else there is to say.
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