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Beachac
Profile Joined June 2009
United States278 Posts
May 09 2010 23:19 GMT
#101
On May 10 2010 01:40 Djabanete wrote:
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On May 09 2010 10:53 lone_hydra wrote:
On May 08 2010 21:36 FireGuyX wrote:
Personally, I feel that my tvp is my weakest matchup.


Flash doesn't have any weakness against all three MU's. Jaedong is the same way.


Jaedong's vs. Terran is pretty bad for a golden mouse winner right now.

Actually, Jaedong's matchups are all a lot better than Nada's or July's, so what you just said doesn't make a whole lot of sense.


what the hell. this comparison makes no sense
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 23:33:29
May 09 2010 23:33 GMT
#102
On May 10 2010 03:55 Zeridian wrote:
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On May 10 2010 03:08 SturmAddict wrote:
What is there to analyze about Flash TVZ?

He basically screams 1 rax Expand / 14cc each frigin game.

Theres nothing to analyze really. He does the same thing each game and zergs die the same way each game



I guess if it's that easy every Terran doing those strategies has a 90% winrate.

Obvious troll is obvious

Wtf he basically just said how good Flash is. O.o wth lol he didn't even mention that Terran was easy to play.
I guess this is what you call irony.
Jaedong
SturmAddict
Profile Joined October 2009
Malaysia176 Posts
May 09 2010 23:44 GMT
#103
Does he think anyone is going to take this seriously? Humility is cool and everything, and it's great that he's denying that he's perfect, but this is a bit over the top to say that he's not even clearly #1 right now. We're getting into territory where it's reasonable to ask if he's the most dominant player in the game's history. Come on Flash, you don't need false humility about that.


he said somewhere that his team mate Protoss eats him for breakfast ( i mean his tanks, vultures etc etc)
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 10 2010 00:06 GMT
#104
On May 10 2010 08:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2010 03:55 Zeridian wrote:
On May 10 2010 03:08 SturmAddict wrote:
What is there to analyze about Flash TVZ?

He basically screams 1 rax Expand / 14cc each frigin game.

Theres nothing to analyze really. He does the same thing each game and zergs die the same way each game



I guess if it's that easy every Terran doing those strategies has a 90% winrate.

Obvious troll is obvious

Wtf he basically just said how good Flash is. O.o wth lol he didn't even mention that Terran was easy to play.
I guess this is what you call irony.

He did make a stupid and really ignorant statement that was either just retarded or indeed an attempt to troll. He said there is nothing to analyze about Flash's TvZ and that he does the same thing every game. Flash does indeed open up with 1 Rax FE almost always, yes, but he uses a million different variations and transitions (sunken breaks, 4 Rax pressure, mech switches etc etc), and there is an enourmously vast amount of subtle details that are worth studying for every aspiring Terran (and Zergs as well, if they want to beat him). 1 Rax FE is an opening BO, not a specific strategy. There is a lot to analyze about Flash's TvZ.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 10 2010 01:39 GMT
#105
That is a good point. It's mostly nuanced stuff but that is what separates good from great. However, Flash has played enough TvZs within the last year that another series with Effort isn't going to give Jaedong any definitive answers his other bajillion games already haven't. He's not going to pull some tricky builds like Jaedong did last finals or first game against Midas. His last BoX series against Calm, Kwanro, and ZerO, I think he mostly 1 rax FE'd and adjusted timings based off his opponent's builds. Or he 8 raxed.
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