EPTMore on the topic here:
http://eis-blog.ucsc.edu/2010/04/achieving-the-eliza-effect-in-starcraft/
Beating players by chatting?!
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djsherman
United States140 Posts
More on the topic here: http://eis-blog.ucsc.edu/2010/04/achieving-the-eliza-effect-in-starcraft/ | ||
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6540 Posts
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-fj.
Samoa462 Posts
That was soooo effective :D | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6167 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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Housemd
United States1407 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
Why doesn't it use its first two goons though? | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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government delta
Germany96 Posts
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:21 Housemd wrote: The funny thing is that the terran player actually responded to all the questions even when his base was getting murdered He was very polite, I like protossfighter | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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djsherman
United States140 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:34 pubbanana wrote: What is the ELIZA effect? Does it have anything to do with the progamer Eliza? The ELIZA effect is a way of creating believability in AI systems. That is, trying to convince a player that it is human. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
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Ideas
United States8082 Posts
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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aeroH
United States1034 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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Mikami_
Estonia274 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 SO PRO | ||
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dementus
Singapore1151 Posts
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djsherman
United States140 Posts
On April 11 2010 04:11 dementus wrote: I was somewhat bemused until I saw "HEY WHAT HARDWARE ARE YOU ON I'M ON A 406 WITH 16M RAM PURE LUXORY!!!!", just couldn't stop laughing hahahaha... I've actually ran StarCraft on that hardware. The quote was of course a kickback to Dijkstra! | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:46 Ideas wrote: was this on ICCUP? Are you allowed to let your bots play on ICCUP? I played Nonybot on iccup..I don't think they are against the rules, they are free points anyways  . | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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AleC
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On April 11 2010 03:45 ella_guru wrote: Lol, I play protoss fighter fairly regularly. Im going to let him know of the thread and see if I can get him to post Lol I know him too, hope he just has a good laugh about this thread xD | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 ROFL Gayest shit i have ever seen lolololo | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On April 11 2010 04:57 Hyperionnn wrote: ROFL Gayest shit i have ever seen lolololo Whaddya mean gay? That was brilliant! xD | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On April 11 2010 04:29 xAlec wrote: Lol I know him too, hope he just has a good laugh about this thread xD Next time he comes on b.net(I know him from there) I'm gonna laugh at him and say "HAHA U CAN'T EVEN BEAT A FUCKIN CPU LOL U NOOB!" Of course on blue storm and during game when I'm proxying. | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 Fucking awesome! | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: HAHAHAAHA "FROM?"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 this guy is just funny. something about him is fuckin hilarious. | ||
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
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vOddy
Sweden402 Posts
"Are you going to attack me" when he's breaching the front with dragoons, LMAO | ||
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Likkzi
Poland72 Posts
He scouted your 2 Gate Goons and still went 1 Rax CC behind wallin. Meh. Probably he never heard about ICCup Golden Rule No. 1: + Show Spoiler + When Toss is chatting, smell proxy...+ Show Spoiler + ...or at least early agression...+ Show Spoiler + ...or Dark Templars. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
so epic hahaha | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
(check out any video where hellmuth is tilted, and especially the Tony G video) | ||
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SleepSheep
Canada344 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + "i am a nony fanboy" | ||
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oo_xerox
United States852 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
best thing ever. | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On April 11 2010 06:28 CharlieMurphy wrote: wat? useless self promotion of a closed thread?much of this in this other game http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=118800¤tpage=4 (check out any video where hellmuth is tilted, and especially the Tony G video) | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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Ducci
United States588 Posts
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 LMFAO ahahahahahhaha | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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DeathByMonkeys
United States742 Posts
On April 11 2010 05:51 Likkzi wrote: Hmmm, I don't find it so funny... He scouted your 2 Gate Goons and still went 1 Rax CC behind wallin. Meh. Probably he never heard about ICCup Golden Rule No. 1: + Show Spoiler + When Toss is chatting, smell proxy...+ Show Spoiler + ...or at least early agression...+ Show Spoiler + ...or Dark Templars. Soooo true... | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 this is so funny hahaha | ||
KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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paper
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
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FiBsTeR
United States415 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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PhOeniX[MinD]
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
I know 3 gate or DT or 5 pool is comming soon... | ||
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Nao
Poland166 Posts
On April 11 2010 10:01 Biochemist wrote: Maybe not so simple but there were a thread on this here!That bot doesn't look half-bad, is there a simple way I can play against it? | ||
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konadora
Singapore66155 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
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Fixee
United States4 Posts
So random. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
"From?" - freezes your opponent for 3 seconds. | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
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vOddy
Sweden402 Posts
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
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petzergling
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 omg was just going to post that video haha good stuff | ||
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QQplay
United States229 Posts
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Setz3R
United States455 Posts
"never Re, uh never rematch people, you always have to gay people on blue storm and peace out." epic. | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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maneatingshoe
Canada484 Posts
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JoeSaddles
United States344 Posts
it's best to try to piss them off instead of just having regular conversation.. just like trying to get a player to be on tilt in poker | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
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GTR
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On April 11 2010 16:48 Bibbit wrote: During the ladder stage of TSL2, Morrow had made one of those image macro things that taught the very useful lesson of "Really manner/chatty Korean = Cheesing you all to hell" trying to find the image but there was one that went something like korean: hi korean: from korean: me kor korean: bla bla bla morrow: are u rushing me korean has left the game. | ||
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
On April 11 2010 16:56 GTR wrote: trying to find the image but there was one that went something like korean: hi korean: from korean: me kor korean: bla bla bla morrow: are u rushing me korean has left the game. Yeah, thats the one. I'm just paraphrasing | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
 always brings out an extra dronescout in those cases :D | ||
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Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1893 Posts
I'm going to repost @ reps.ru | ||
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Sun Tzu
China2 Posts
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FoieGras
Canada270 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 LOL this is fucking brilliant | ||
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craaaaack
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
i love how the questions get increasingly harder at one point, maybe accidentally, and it actually promotes quite a bit of thought out of the poor guy | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6540 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:08 djsherman wrote: I've added chat functionality to my bot (Porotoss) in a terribly misguided attempt to improve performance, but I think it worked!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWcmfOBVIYE More on the topic here: http://eis-blog.ucsc.edu/2010/04/achieving-the-eliza-effect-in-starcraft/ this is the best. you see the osl ? LOOOOOL epicc | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 hahaha win! | ||
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Infernus
Norway222 Posts
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wiesel
Germany727 Posts
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uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
On April 11 2010 14:58 petzergling wrote: s^ guys Guess you're famous now. Still waiting for protossfighter to post... | ||
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djsherman
United States140 Posts
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On April 11 2010 14:58 petzergling wrote: s^ guys Yeah, cool video, but also cool that you were in deer. | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1538 Posts
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TS
Croatia39 Posts
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Demoninja
United States1190 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
On April 11 2010 14:58 petzergling wrote: s^ guys Great video dude! pure gold! | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
great lines. he didn't even notice that it was a bot | ||
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NiteKat
United States146 Posts
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On April 12 2010 04:03 jalstar wrote: im a huge nony fanboy ![[image loading]](http://www.memedepot.com/uploads/0/207_not_sure_if_serious.jpg) | ||
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NiteKat
United States146 Posts
On April 12 2010 00:51 djsherman wrote: I have to apologize to protossfiighter, I really should have anonymized the user name, but I don't have the video editing skills. In his defense, he was playing an off race, and going for a risky strategy that my bot was designed to counter. Did he go CC before factory? I would never do that on medusa! On medusa can't you wall off the natural? Also usually if the CC is placed before the fact it is done at the natural on 14. Not sure what t was trying to do based on that video. | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
On April 11 2010 16:56 GTR wrote: trying to find the image but there was one that went something like korean: hi korean: from korean: me kor korean: bla bla bla morrow: are u rushing me korean has left the game. Haha I saw that. Wish I could see it again. | ||
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TehPwntif
United States25 Posts
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On April 12 2010 02:58 paulinepain wrote: I almost laughed. are you kidding? that bluestorm video was HILARIOUS! | ||
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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
HAL: Are you going to attack me? protossfighter: lol protossfighter: no protossfighter: gg protossfighter has left the game LMFAO | ||
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faction123
Australia949 Posts
On April 12 2010 04:41 LordWeird wrote: Haha I saw that. Wish I could see it again. Oh my god I gotta see that ss/replay | ||
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meathook
1289 Posts
On April 11 2010 03:55 Mikami_ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfOZpiC410 Ah.. I remember this one. Classic. Also, his victim, mossad or w/e, really is a faggot. And this is why responding to chat messages from ppl you don't know usually leads to no good. | ||
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Setz3R
United States455 Posts
"ny, usa" *killing your zerglings* hahah, man i cant get enough of this vid! | ||
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
On April 13 2010 12:15 Legendary- wrote: from? "ny, usa" *killing your zerglings* hahah, man i cant get enough of this vid! that was my favorite part. | ||
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sLiniss
United States849 Posts
You could attempt to make the chat spew out words in the middle of the screen and be very distracting | ||
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iNviSible.yunO
Germany211 Posts
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yurten
United States42 Posts
On April 11 2010 16:56 GTR wrote: trying to find the image but there was one that went something like korean: hi korean: from korean: me kor korean: bla bla bla morrow: are u rushing me korean has left the game. This the interview? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108443 | ||
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Volshok
United States349 Posts
On April 14 2010 01:59 yurten wrote: This the interview? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108443 That's it ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MorrowImages/manners.png) | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
Damn epic... bad stuff is that he didn't get the win cause of the other player leaving before the 2 minute mark... U,U | ||
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PineappleSage
Canada109 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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zealing
Canada806 Posts
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petzergling
538 Posts
On April 12 2010 02:20 Pyrthas wrote: Yeah, cool video, but also cool that you were in deer. lol how u know deer? | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On April 14 2010 08:30 cgrinker wrote: Your bot should change the latency a bunch of times. That would make them need to go into the menu... pretty time consuming How about pausing to screw with them as well. | ||
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djsherman
United States140 Posts
How about pausing to screw with them as well. The goal is not to BM the opponent, but rather distract through sporadic idle conversation. | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
"IM A HUGE NONY FANBOY" LOL <3 | ||
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DeathByMonkeys
United States742 Posts
It seems like they're trying to make it learn from what the pros do and possibly even from the mistakes it makes. The problem is new maps will always be coming out (this might not be that big of a problem), also if an S-class pro gamer set out to beat a bot I'm sure they could. They have the ability to devise strategies for the sole purpose of beating this thing. This game is their life and I'm sure they could come up with really abusive builds that, as I stated earlier, are in existence to destroy this AI. On the other hand, a bot with perfect micro in every situation would be extremely hard to kill even with a decisive "build order win". For example a 4 pool vs 14 nex (before cannons). A normal protoss would get destroyed in this situation, but a bot with perfect probe micro may be able to fend it off fairly easily. NOTE: Copying this post from another thread because I will probably get more responses to my views in this one. | ||
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milo
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Probes with perfect micro = imba | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
"hey, my friends told me that girls shouldn't play games" "hey my AIM screen name is HOTaznGIRL, what is your" | ||
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tarpman
Canada718 Posts
On April 14 2010 08:30 cgrinker wrote: Your bot should change the latency a bunch of times. That would make them need to go into the menu... pretty time consuming f10 o n l enter takes me about the same amount of time as 1a2a3a *shrug* | ||
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protossfighter
United States3 Posts
I gotta admit it was a good idea to test for it but all you idiots that think i was too noob to beat a computer, please shut up. I was off race. And I am pretty bad at starcraft. If you guys just laugh at people for sucking at a game, you have no lives. All of you other people that just thought this game was cool and interesting, thank you -bows- i try to suck at starcraft my best. well, see ya guys around online i guess | ||
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On May 03 2010 10:32 protossfighter wrote: if that vod showed anything about you, it was that you were very good mannered. but haters gonna hate anyways. haha do you remember the game? were you convinced he was human?hey guys, its me protossfighter, the one the got owned by the bot haha :D I gotta admit it was a good idea to test for it but all you idiots that think i was too noob to beat a computer, please shut up. I was off race. And I am pretty bad at starcraft. If you guys just laugh at people for sucking at a game, you have no lives. All of you other people that just thought this game was cool and interesting, thank you -bows- i try to suck at starcraft my best. well, see ya guys around online i guess | ||
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Always
United States376 Posts
rofl. the "from?" timing was perfect. | ||
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protossfighter
United States3 Posts
On May 03 2010 10:51 redtooth wrote: if that vod showed anything about you, it was that you were very good mannered. but haters gonna hate anyways. haha do you remember the game? were you convinced he was human? i actually really did and i didn't think anything about it until someone told me i was famous on TL haha | ||
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Dysz
Sweden26 Posts
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