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sungsik-
Profile Joined October 2008
Korea (South)14 Posts
March 24 2010 18:47 GMT
#1
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first of all, sorry about Korean. This is a table of flash's proleague records.


From left to right
Date, Round, Opposite team, Set, Opposite player, Race, Map, result, Win, Lose, Rate,
need of winning to make 90%, straight win, straight lose.

as you know, it has not happend that a player made a 90% record in a single league,
especially proleague in which one player could play so many games.

Flash temporary made a 90% record, but it's broken soon.
90% means if he loses just one game, then he has to win 9 game straight,
That's why it is so hard to make 90%.

A possitive thing is he got 3win and no lose at the last proleague match.
if he had lost the game against Light, he would have needed 23wins,

To make a 90% record, he now needs just 13(?) wins straight.
Of course, if he lose just one game, making 90% will almost become impossible.

Korean fans say to flash 'A trash who cannot make a 90% record.' for a joke of affection.


Flash's record in proleague so far.

vs T 20 games, 17wins, 3loses (85.0%)
vs Z 16games, 16games, 1lose(93.8%)
vs P 11games, 9wins, 2loses(81.8%)


the table and what I post are basically from pgr21.com


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Yamato
Profile Joined February 2010
United States33 Posts
March 24 2010 18:52 GMT
#2
'A trash who cannot make a 90% record.'

This is hilarious.

But in all seriousness, only 13 wins, huh. Winning OSL and all-kills in Winners League...how many would that be?
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
March 24 2010 18:53 GMT
#3
On March 25 2010 03:47 sungsik- wrote:

90% means if he loses just one game, then he has to win 9 game straight,
That's why it is so hard to make 90%.


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sungsik-
Profile Joined October 2008
Korea (South)14 Posts
March 24 2010 18:55 GMT
#4
On March 25 2010 03:52 Yamato wrote:
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'A trash who cannot make a 90% record.'

This is hilarious.

But in all seriousness, only 13 wins, huh. Winning OSL and all-kills in Winners League...how many would that be?


Ah..This is only in proleague, not including OSL or MSL.
So what he needs is 13wins only in Proleague.



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Yamato
Profile Joined February 2010
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-24 19:02:23
March 24 2010 19:02 GMT
#5
Oh oops..so the TLPD contains non-proleague data, huh. Is there a sticky I missed somewhere that outlines the different kinds of leagues?
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
March 24 2010 19:04 GMT
#6
Can't believe he's winning so much in PL especially when he has to play with his basic skills against teams that have people prepared to snipe him all the time. For Flash, I don't think 13 wins is impossible at all.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 24 2010 19:09 GMT
#7
O_o

These stats are insane. And while getting such a ridiculous record in PL he also won the OSL and reached the final in MSL. I do not think he'll end PL win 90%, but he can definitely stay above 85%.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
March 24 2010 19:13 GMT
#8
The rest of KT needs to slack off a bit so he can get more ace matches after the WL is over.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
March 24 2010 19:20 GMT
#9
On March 25 2010 04:04 ketomai wrote:
Can't believe he's winning so much in PL especially when he has to play with his basic skills map hacks against teams that have people prepared to snipe him all the time. For Flash, I don't think 13 wins is impossible at all.


=P

I don't really think it's possible. 13 straight wins? Nah. Especially since Winner's league is about to end, so he'll be limited to at most 2 games per match, and with individual seasons coming up.
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
March 24 2010 19:28 GMT
#10
That would mean he would have to go trough R4 unbeaten, even for Flash I think that's impossible.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 24 2010 19:38 GMT
#11
13 consecutive wins in proleague seems impossible.

But damn, his record looks so scary...
Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
March 24 2010 19:46 GMT
#12
I could take him.
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
March 24 2010 19:47 GMT
#13
flash is crazy good 90% win rate

makes you wonder why we even consider a 60% win ratio to be good, if you think about it 4 losses every 10 games is pretty bad (Stork still has 60%)
Nony is Bonjwa
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
March 24 2010 19:52 GMT
#14
I have my doubts. As Leta has proven recently, defeating Flash straight up is very much possible.
It would be insane if he actually manages to achieve 90% win rate...He did break 2400 ELO after all...and is still breaking it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
March 24 2010 19:56 GMT
#15
Only 17-3 in TvT? What a slacker.
Zero fighting.
NeoOmega
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States495 Posts
March 24 2010 19:59 GMT
#16
Will not happen. He'll just have to settle for 80%.
Johnny B
Profile Joined April 2009
United States76 Posts
March 24 2010 20:10 GMT
#17
This is kind of like asking if Joe Mauer can keep a .400 batting average. After July 1st last year his average was .392 (and it had been above .400 at times in May and June), so everybody was talking about it, but he played like the rest of the mortals in the MLB for the remainder of the season and ended with "only" a .365 and an AL batting title.

Best of luck to Flash anyway! I doubt he'll pull it off, but he has a shot.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 24 2010 20:15 GMT
#18
Flash has a 90% winrate THIS month
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
thekrnkid
Profile Joined November 2008
United States37 Posts
March 24 2010 20:26 GMT
#19
He needs 12 more wins not 13 if I did the math correctly. That would be insane if he actually did get 90%
IUJesSica
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
March 24 2010 20:29 GMT
#20
it probably won't happen, but it wouldn't be surprised if it did.

if anyone can do it it's flash
I drop suckas like Plinko
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
March 24 2010 20:48 GMT
#21
On March 25 2010 04:52 dukethegold wrote:
I have my doubts. As Leta has proven recently, defeating Flash straight up is very much possible.
It would be insane if he actually manages to achieve 90% win rate...He did break 2400 ELO after all...and is still breaking it.

As much as I like Leta, as Stork said all of the 3 and 4-player maps (and in some matchups even the 2-player maps) have massive positional advantages and therefore players have to practice more than 1 strat per map, even if they are trained as snipers for the sole fact that they may get a disadvantageous position.
Mt.DiabloakaUniverse
Profile Joined March 2010
14 Posts
March 26 2010 17:15 GMT
#22
Flash has skills of a progamer that I aspire to have
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Glider
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1353 Posts
March 26 2010 17:48 GMT
#23
i think it's very possible but not very likely. even if he has a 90% chance to win any match, it drops to 25% chance to win 13 straight. Still, I hope he does it, it would be more amazing (his rec is already amazing)
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 26 2010 18:07 GMT
#24
I think it is more likely to win straight 13 games in a row in the standard format than WL. Sniping seems much more powerful during WL when you don't know which map and which player you will end up playing. Additionally, there is no way one can prepare for all the matches at all the maps vs different races.

But still it seems very unlikely...
Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
March 26 2010 18:19 GMT
#25
I think it's scary that Flash is playing at the *pro level*-- people who should be around his skill level. His performance is extremely dominating, and kind of shows how far he is ahead of everyone else in the world.

How can one person be so good at this game?
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rANDY
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United Kingdom748 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-26 18:41:24
March 26 2010 18:35 GMT
#26
nvm i misread the columns lol facepalm
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
March 26 2010 18:37 GMT
#27
On March 27 2010 03:35 no_re wrote:
He needs 19 straight wins to get 90% record...

I like how everyone just swallowed the 13.


54-6 = 90%
60-6 = ~91%
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 26 2010 18:41 GMT
#28
On March 27 2010 03:19 Always wrote:
I think it's scary that Flash is playing at the *pro level*-- people who should be around his skill level. His performance is extremely dominating, and kind of shows how far he is ahead of everyone else in the world.

How can one person be so good at this game?

Ya, I don't get how he can be that much better than everyone else who also spend literally (almost) all their time just practising and practising.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-26 18:53:11
March 26 2010 18:44 GMT
#29
no_re United Kingdom. March 27 2010 03:35. Posts 465 PM Profile Blog Quote
He needs 19 straight wins to get 90% record...

I like how everyone just swallowed the 13.


um maybe my math is wrong here but 10-1 is more than 90 percent 9-1 equals 90 percent that is 9 out of 10

16+17+9 = 42 ... plus the 12 wins = 54 ....... 54 and 6 = 90 percent
by my very very SIMPLE math it is 12 wins ... the reason we swallowed somewhere around 13 to be true is who would second guess 1st grade arithmetic ... its not like this is advanced calculus ... i like how you took the time to imply something about every reader of this thread without taking the time to make sure you were correct ,, about something so mundanely SIMPLE
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
March 26 2010 19:05 GMT
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anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
March 26 2010 19:26 GMT
#31
its 13 wins dammit.
do your algebra.

(x-6) / x = .90
x = 60 games.
60 games minus the 6 losses = 54.

krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 26 2010 19:47 GMT
#32
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Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
March 26 2010 19:59 GMT
#33
On March 27 2010 04:05 niteReloaded wrote:
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hahahaha epic
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
March 26 2010 20:06 GMT
#34
Wow, I had no idea Flash was doing this well. I think we need to replace that Oov pic that shows off his 78% win rate
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terr13
Profile Joined April 2007
United States298 Posts
March 26 2010 20:07 GMT
#35
There's an error on the first page, it says 16 games vZ, and then shows 16-1 record. If he is really 16-1 then it's 12 games, otherwise 13 games.
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
March 26 2010 20:12 GMT
#36
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anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
March 26 2010 20:14 GMT
#37
On March 27 2010 05:07 terr13 wrote:
There's an error on the first page, it says 16 games vZ, and then shows 16-1 record. If he is really 16-1 then it's 12 games, otherwise 13 games.

its 15 wins, the OP typed it wrong.
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
March 26 2010 20:22 GMT
#38
If flash was a fictional character we would be lolz that's cool but not realistic.
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
March 26 2010 20:28 GMT
#39
On March 25 2010 03:47 sungsik- wrote:

vs T 20 games, 17wins, 3loses (85.0%)
vs Z 16games, 16games, 1lose(93.8%)
vs P 11games, 9wins, 2loses(81.8%)


vs Z 16 games, 16 won 1 lose? lol wtf? 16/17 = 94.1%
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
March 26 2010 20:29 GMT
#40
if someone can do it, then its flash. damn he is my hero, my god, he is the reason why i even look here and take the time to post in the sc1 board. i mean i didnt watched whats going on in the sc1 board since 3 weeks?
Flash and Jaedong 2 fucking gosu they both need to get the bonjwa status!
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chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-26 20:44:23
March 26 2010 20:30 GMT
#41
anch United States. March 27 2010 04:26. Posts 4254 PM Profile Blog Quote
its 13 wins dammit.
do your algebra.

(x-6) / x = .90
x = 60 games.
60 games minus the 6 losses = 54.


I am not sure the op numbers are right but he says 16 games versus zerg then says 16 wins 1 loss which equals 17 games this is the number i was using ,.,.... so in this event i was correct 12 wins .......use your reading comprehension skills


17+3=20 ..... 16+1 = 17 ( note this is YOUR ERROR ) .. 9+2 =11
20+17+11 = 48 ...... 60-48 ==== 12 ..... ARE YOU DISPUTING THIS ????????? It doesn't even take algebra ; simple arithmetic will do if we all agree 54of 60 = 90 percent
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
March 26 2010 20:31 GMT
#42
On March 27 2010 04:26 anch wrote:
its 13 wins dammit.
do your algebra.

(x-6) / x = .90
x = 60 games.
60 games minus the 6 losses = 54.


current games won/played: 42/48
42/48 | +12
54/60 = 0.9

it's 12 wins...
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-26 20:44:57
March 26 2010 20:35 GMT
#43
yes this is assuming the numbers are correct ,,, never have i heard so much arguing over something so simple .. its very funny ,, if you were 6 or 7 years old it might make sense that it would require a debate to solve this ... I am assuming you are a little older than this lmao
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
March 26 2010 20:44 GMT
#44
Bonjwa.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
March 26 2010 20:45 GMT
#45
I think the 16-1 is supposed to be 15-1 (count the match list)

that would explain everything and it would be 13 wins needed -.-
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
chessmaster
Profile Joined November 2009
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-26 20:50:31
March 26 2010 20:46 GMT
#46
It is hard to tell sometimes online if people are trolling or actually that inept .. as i said i am using the numbers provided , so if you goona disagree with my number disagree with the numbers provided NOT my math ,, as i assumed the op added the match list correctly .. ..
the beauty of a move is not in its appearance but the thought behind it ... nimzovitch
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-26 21:32:51
March 26 2010 21:32 GMT
#47
wow flash wow
super bonjwa
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
March 26 2010 22:19 GMT
#48
On March 25 2010 03:53 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2010 03:47 sungsik- wrote:

90% means if he loses just one game, then he has to win 9 game straight,
That's why it is so hard to make 90%.


You learn something new every day...

awww someone beat me to it...
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