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[Interview] MSL Survivor Group 9 Winners

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Lyriene *
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United States346 Posts
March 04 2010 16:15 GMT
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MSL Survivor Group 9
2-0 Winner: (P)Movie
“I want to change my win counts for individuals leagues and Proleague”


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Q: It’s your 3rd consecutive MSL advancement. How do you feel?
A: I’m happy but I don’t really want to smile

Q: Why is that?
A: My team is not doing well in Proleague, so I can’t smile.

Q: But Proleague is Proleague, and individual league is individual league
A: You can’t just do well in individual leagues and then do horribly in Proleague. I only feel comfortable when my team does well at the same time as me.

Q: Set 2 went for over an hour so you had to wait a long time.
A: I often become drowsy while watching TvT and today, I came here tired, so I passed out. Because of that, my condition worsened and my body felt heavy when I was up to play.

Q: Your PvZ against (Z)Chavi was good
A: Although he tried to block my Probe from entering as hard as he could, I was able to scout him and take it easy from there. I knew I won when I blocked his Hydralisks with my Cannons.

Q: You used Carriers against (T)Mind
A: If Terran doesn’t come out and just stays in his base, Protoss fights disadvantageously with Arbiters and ground army. I practiced my Carrier timing a lot during practice, and it worked well as I planned.

Q: Although you were a semi-finalist in OSL last season, your performance in MSL wasn’t too great
A: I want to win more in Proleague than invididual league. Because I lost so much, it’ll be hard for me to come back.

Q: Are you greedy for an individual league win?
A: There’s still a lot of time left until the actual league starts. I just want to focus on Proleague. I’m hurt because my team’s record is bad, and I feel even sorrier that I’m not helping at all.

Q: (Z)EffOrt advanced to OSL
A: It’s a relief during our misfortune, but Proleague comes first. After Effort disqualified from the Survivor, he cursed me saying “since I disqualified, you should disqualify too”. But when he qualified to OSL Ro16, he was happy like a child. I’ve been a semi-finalist before, so I took his words leniently (laughs).

Q: Would you trade your win counts for individual leagues’ with Proleague’s?
A: I would. I’m really sorry that the team is doing badly.

Original Article: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=23241

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Q 세번 연속 MSL에 올랐다. 소감은.
A 기분이 좋지만 별로 웃고 싶지 않다.

Q 왜 그런가.
A 우리 팀이 프로리그에서 좋은 성적을 거두지 못하고 있는 상황이라 웃을 수가 없다.

Q 프로리그는 프로리그이고 개인리그는 개인리그다.
A 개인리그만 잘하고 프로리그를 못하면 안된다. 팀도 좋은 성적을 내고 나도 좋은 성적이 나야만 마음이 편안하다.

Q 2경기가 한 시간이 넘게 진행되면서 정말 오래 기다렸다.
A 테란전을 보다가 자주 조는 편인데 오늘 피곤한 상태로 현장에 와서 민찬기 선수와 박성균 선수의 테테전을 보다가 꾸벅꾸벅 졸았다. 그것으로 인해 컨디션이 더욱 나빠졌다. 경기하러 가는데 몸이 무거웠다.

Q 이정현과의 저그전이 잘 풀렸다.
A 초반에 드론으로 입구를 막아서 보지 못하려 하려고 이정현 선수가 애를 썼는데 프로브로 정찰을 해내면서 쉽게 풀어 갈 수 있었다. 캐논으로 히드라리스크 러시를 막아낸 뒤 이겼다고 생각했다.

Q 박성균과의 경기에서 캐리어를 썼다.
A 테란이 나오지 않고 버티기만 하면 지상군과 아비터만으로는 손해보는 싸움을 계속하게 된다. 연습 때에도 캐리어 전환 타이밍을 잡기 위해 노력했고 뜻대로 잘 됐다.

Q 지난 시즌 스타리그에서 준우승했지만 MSL에서는 성적이 좋지 못했다.
A 개인리그보다는 프로리그에서 더 많이 이기고 싶다. 정말 많이 져서 복구하기 어려울 것 같다.

Q 개인리그에 대한 욕심은 없나.
A 아직 본격적으로 리그에 들아가기 까지는 일정이 많이 남아 있지 않나. 프로리그에 집중하고 싶다. 팀 성적이 좋지 않아서 마음이 아프고 내가 보탬이 되지 않아서 더욱 죄송하다.

Q 3일 김정우가 스타리그에 올라갔다.
A 불행중 다행이지만 프로리그가 우선이다. 김정우 선수가 서바이버 토너먼트에서 탈락한 뒤 "내가 떨어졌으니 너도 떨어져라"라고 저주(?)를 퍼부었다. 그리고 나서 어제 스타리그 16강에 오르고 났더니 아이처럼 좋아하더라. 난 준우승까지 해봤기에 김정우의 모든 말들을 너그럽게 받아들였다(웃음)

Q 개인리그와프로리그에서 승수를 바꿀 수 있다면 바꾸겠나.
A 그러고 싶다. 팀 성적이 좋지 않아 정말 죄송하다.




MSL Survivor Group 9
2-1 Winner: (T)Mind
“I want to become the last standing man”


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Q: You’ve come back to MSL after a long time
A: I think it’s been over a year since I’ve played an MSL game. I really wanted to advance this time, so I prepared a lot. I’m content that I advanced as 2nd place in the group. Although it’s only Ro32, I’ll practice hard for the remaining matches.

Q: You’re a former MSL winner, but it must have been frustrating to slump
A: I should have done better quicker, but I became used to losing. I feel good that I was able to advance at a time of frustration. Because the games were hard, my body’s tired.

Q: You played for an hour against (T)RuBy
A: I thought I had an advantage in the mid game, so I didn’t know the game would drag to Battlecruisers. Although I was ahead, I played as if I were losing. I could’ve won easily, but the game went for too long. I didn’t know it would be like that. It was a crazy game.

Q: You lost to Carriers against (P)Movie
A: I knew I was at a disadvantage when I barely saved the Command Center. As I tried to make a comeback by harassing, I didn’t realize that he had changed to Carriers.

Q: You played Ruby again in the final match
A: I didn’t want to play for another hour. I tried hard to finish it before that.

Q: There are 3 qualifiers for MSL in WeMade so far
A: Our team’s doing well. We’re in a winning streak in Proleague and there are a lot of people in individual leagues. When (T)Midas advanced to MSL, he joked by calling me and (T)BaBy “Survivor Leaguers”. But now, Baby and I are both MSL leaguers. I want all of us to do well and meet at higher rounds.

Q: Anything else?
A: I thank Baby and (Z)Shine for helping me practice. I also thank everyone who gave me advices. This is the only league that I’m in, so I want to do well. I want to smile as the last man standing.



Original Article: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=23245

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Q 오랜만에 MSL에 돌아왔다.
A MSL에서 경기하지 못한 지 1년이 한참 넘은 것 같다. 이번에는 MSL에 꼭 올라가고 싶어 준비를 많이 했다. 2위라도 올라가서 기분 좋다. 32강밖에 되지 않지만 남은 경기를 더 열심히 준비하겠다.

Q MSL 우승자인데 부진해서 답답했을 것 같다.
A 금세 다시 올라갔어야 하는데 지는 일에 익숙해 지더라. 답답했던 차에 이번 대회에 올라가게 되어 개인적으로 좋다. 경기 내용이 힘들어서 몸도 지친다.

Q 민찬기와 한 시간 동안 경기했다.
A 중반부터 내가 유리하다고 생각했기에 배틀크루저까지 갈 줄 몰랐다. 유리한 상황인데도 불리한 것처럼 소극적인 플레이를 했다. 쉽게 이길 경기가 너무나도 긴 장기전이 됐다. 나도 모르게 그렇게 됐다. 정신이 없었던 경기였던 것 같다.

Q 진영화와의 경기에서 캐리어에 당했다.
A 커맨드 센터를 간신히 지켜냈을 때 불리하다고 생각했다. 난관을 헤쳐가기 위해 견제 플레이만 하다 보니까 캐리어 전환을 알지 못했다.

Q 민찬기와 촤종전을 펼쳤다.
A 한 시간 경기를 하기는 싫었다. 그 전에 마무리짓기 위해 최선을 다했다.

Q 위메이드에서 세 명이나 본선에 진출했다.
A 팀 분위기가 좋다. 프로리그 연승을 하고 있고 개인리그에도 자주 올라간다. 전상욱 선배가 MSL에 올라간 이후 나랑 태양이에게 '서바이버 리거'라며 장난도 치더라. 이제는 나나 태양이도 MSL 리거다. 다 같이 잘해서 높은 곳에서 만났으면 좋겠다.

Q 하고 싶은 말은.
A 연습 도와준 전태양, 이영한에게 고맙다. 도움 준 모든 선수들에게 고맙다. 나에게는 이 리그만 남아 있기 때문에 좋은 결과를 내고 싶다. 마지막에 나 혼자 남아서 웃고 싶다.





Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr (Daily Esports)
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
March 04 2010 16:21 GMT
#2
Why Mind needed Shine's help lol...
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
March 04 2010 16:22 GMT
#3
Woot, thanks so much! :D
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
March 04 2010 16:36 GMT
#4
A: If Terran doesn’t come out and just stays in his base, Protoss fights disadvantageously with Arbiters and ground army. I practiced my Carrier timing a lot during practice, and it worked well as I planned.


I laughed so hard at this. I remember the PLU commentator always makes fun of Mind and his turtling play.
:]
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
March 04 2010 16:43 GMT
#5
Getting slower with age, are we?

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No that's NOT criticism, in case you were wondering.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
March 04 2010 16:47 GMT
#6
Q: It’s your 3rd consecutive MSL advancement. How do you feel?
A: I’m happy but I don’t really want to smile

Q: Why is that?
A: smiling gets you kicked off cj entus
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4642 Posts
March 04 2010 16:49 GMT
#7
On March 05 2010 01:47 jalstar wrote:
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Q: It’s your 3rd consecutive MSL advancement. How do you feel?
A: I’m happy but I don’t really want to smile

Q: Why is that?
A: smiling gets you kicked off cj entus

So true! This comment would have gotten me kicked out of CJ (if my terrible play wouldn't already, ofc)
This neo violence, pure self defiance
motoroia
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada70 Posts
March 04 2010 16:53 GMT
#8
THANKS!
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 04 2010 16:56 GMT
#9
Mind ahahaahhahah look at that picture!!! he looks like he just shot heroin or wants to rape somebody
KTY
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
March 04 2010 17:03 GMT
#10
dude, if all of CJ feels like that they're going to have to hire a doctor to treat clinical depression
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
March 04 2010 17:14 GMT
#11
On March 05 2010 01:47 jalstar wrote:
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Q: It’s your 3rd consecutive MSL advancement. How do you feel?
A: I’m happy but I don’t really want to smile

Q: Why is that?
A: smiling gets you kicked off cj entus

awesome comment lol.

Still Movie's actual answer was totally understandable, I hope the words for "pass out" and "fall asleep" are the same in Korean because even just as a fan I wouldn't want to worry about incidents like the Silent_Control one anymore...
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-04 18:09:34
March 04 2010 18:09 GMT
#12
On March 05 2010 01:15 Lyriene wrote:
Q: You played for an hour against (T)RuBy
A: I thought I had an advantage in the mid game, so I didn’t know the game would drag to Battlecruisers. Although I was ahead, I played as if I were losing. I could’ve won easily, but the game went for too long. I didn’t know it would be like that. It was a crazy game.

Lame lame lame! That's why he kept backing off even though it was pretty clear he had more BC's AND more money in the bank. He loses fans when he drags out a won game.

Thanks for the translation.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
March 04 2010 18:12 GMT
#13
Thanks for the translation!

Lol at Effort first being jealous like a child, then happy like a child.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-04 18:20:37
March 04 2010 18:19 GMT
#14
On March 05 2010 01:21 Garnet wrote:
Why Mind needed Shine's help lol...

chance he had to play chavi

Q: You used Carriers against Mind
A: If Terran doesn’t come out and just stays in his base, Protoss fights disadvantageously with Arbiters and ground army. I practiced my Carrier timing a lot during practice, and it worked well as I planned.

Reading that made me so happy Theres hope for protoss after all.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 04 2010 18:41 GMT
#15
On March 05 2010 01:22 EffOrt wrote:
After Effort disqualified from the Survivor, he cursed me saying “since I disqualified, you should disqualify too”.


Wtf?
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
March 04 2010 18:43 GMT
#16
people get frustrated
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-05 03:35:25
March 05 2010 03:34 GMT
#17
Wait, Movie is a finalist, a silver medalist, not a semi-finalist. O.o

Gotta feel bad for CJ. This is not a team like ACE. They were tearing things up in round 1 and first part of round 2, competing against KT neck to neck for the 1st place. Then somehow they went on a huge losing streak and just kept on losing.

I think they need a nice big break and start things fresh. I remember this old Savior interview in which he expressed that he is just too tired and burned out. The only thing he is looking forward to is one of the few vacation times a progamer can get each year.

I didn't watch Movie v.s. Mind, but apparently according to LR, Movie did not deserve to win due to his horrid control. At least an explanation was offered as to why his control was so damn sloppy in the 3rd game, in contrast to his nice unit control in the 1st game.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 05 2010 03:40 GMT
#18
On March 05 2010 03:41 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2010 01:22 EffOrt wrote:
After Effort disqualified from the Survivor, he cursed me saying “since I disqualified, you should disqualify too”.


Wtf?


i dont know why lyriene like to use this word "disqualify" ,it always give me a feel that Kespa > any1 who lost
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
March 05 2010 04:19 GMT
#19
On March 05 2010 01:47 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: It’s your 3rd consecutive MSL advancement. How do you feel?
A: I’m happy but I don’t really want to smile

Q: Why is that?
A: smiling gets you kicked off cj entus


LOL
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 05 2010 04:25 GMT
#20
Effort? You dick.

It doesn't help that you suck now too.
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