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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
February 04 2010 11:32 GMT
#61
On February 04 2010 17:19 RyanS wrote:
They should do a WC3 house ranking, see where their top SC player lands. Prove which game is harder once and for all. I'll give a prediction, Mind with 0% win rate. ^^



THere is no sense at all in what you said...

I don't think any of the progamers ever gave a shot at wc3.... ofc they would never win a game... that doesn't mean they suck. At least moon has already played sc before...
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
February 04 2010 12:03 GMT
#62
On February 04 2010 19:47 mOnion wrote:
he won that game. VS some chobo zerg in GomTV


No, he lost that wraith game. Was it on Gods Garden. Reason he lost was not so much his lack of skill compared to other progamers. It's just the inherent weakness of wraith builds.

Baby has mad talent. He could be the new Flash. Yes, I am surprised Pure and Roro do better despite both of them being rock solid too. And no, it's not about results. The players with the best results are usually not very good (anymore). Like Nada and July. Baby is super young. How can you expect him to have shown results?
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
February 04 2010 12:09 GMT
#63
lol Moon can actually semi compete with B teamers in a different game. Guess that guy is as good as everyone says he is.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
February 04 2010 12:12 GMT
#64
On February 04 2010 16:23 FragKrag wrote:
I'm surprised by how low BaBy is

On February 04 2010 16:18 BanZu wrote:
Hm, expected Baby to be much higher...

This
Forever Vulture.. :(
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 04 2010 12:17 GMT
#65
Shine being #2 isn't really surprising at all, but it is surprising that they never play him in ace after looking at this.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
February 04 2010 12:25 GMT
#66
Really nice thread, i've always wondered about in-house rankings and %s. This B guy Herojoin just dominates. Is there any more? And what kind of sample it is, how many games did they play?
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
February 04 2010 12:26 GMT
#67
I'm just wondering if these stats are from practice games or from inside tournaments?
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
February 04 2010 12:29 GMT
#68
teams release this? or this some leaked info
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 12:57:21
February 04 2010 12:56 GMT
#69
ROFLMAO HUNGRY > MIDAS LOLOLOL

Oh and this affirms what myself and the rest of the SC world already knows: ROCK SUCKS GTFO.
RIP eSTRO :(
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
February 04 2010 16:13 GMT
#70
Baby hwaiting!
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
February 04 2010 17:29 GMT
#71
On February 04 2010 16:40 Alphonsse wrote:
Yeah, I kinda find it hard to believe that a wc3 pro just happens to practice enough sc to somewhat compete with B teamers.



His micro is already amazing from playing WC3 at such a high level and he's obviously a great RTS player in general, doesn't really surprise me. I'm guessing he's just a practice partner or is being a B-teamer a step above that?
horang3
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
February 04 2010 17:33 GMT
#72
rock is at rock bottom
Do great work
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 17:35:43
February 04 2010 17:35 GMT
#73
On February 04 2010 21:09 Piy wrote:
lol Moon can actually semi compete with B teamers in a different game. Guess that guy is as good as everyone says he is.

Wait wtf how
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 04 2010 17:43 GMT
#74
On February 04 2010 17:00 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2010 16:58 darktreb wrote:
On February 04 2010 16:40 Alphonsse wrote:
Yeah, I kinda find it hard to believe that a wc3 pro just happens to practice enough sc to somewhat compete with B teamers.


Moon is no ordinary WC3 pro

yeah, if moon had played sc from the beginning i have no doubt that he would be at least a proleague regular


Uhm, Moon played SC from the beginning but switched to wc3?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 17:45:57
February 04 2010 17:45 GMT
#75
On February 05 2010 02:29 faction123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2010 16:40 Alphonsse wrote:
Yeah, I kinda find it hard to believe that a wc3 pro just happens to practice enough sc to somewhat compete with B teamers.



His micro is already amazing from playing WC3 at such a high level and he's obviously a great RTS player in general, doesn't really surprise me. I'm guessing he's just a practice partner or is being a B-teamer a step above that?


Micro doesn't mean shit in SC tho. You can have as good micro as a progamer and still be D/D+. Moon doesn't have any special talent that makes him good at any RTS game. He's good because he played SC seriously for a long time (like all good players).
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
February 04 2010 18:02 GMT
#76
On February 04 2010 17:38 ThunderGod wrote:
B-teamers and coach are too scared of Rock to demote him


hahahahahh that is gold. I'm a semi Rock fan just from seeing that
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 18:15:29
February 04 2010 18:09 GMT
#77
On February 05 2010 02:45 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2010 02:29 faction123 wrote:
On February 04 2010 16:40 Alphonsse wrote:
Yeah, I kinda find it hard to believe that a wc3 pro just happens to practice enough sc to somewhat compete with B teamers.



His micro is already amazing from playing WC3 at such a high level and he's obviously a great RTS player in general, doesn't really surprise me. I'm guessing he's just a practice partner or is being a B-teamer a step above that?


Micro doesn't mean shit in SC tho. You can have as good micro as a progamer and still be D/D+. Moon doesn't have any special talent that makes him good at any RTS game. He's good because he played SC seriously for a long time (like all good players).


Moon isn't just the best WC3 player is of all time aka the fifth race, he also has incredible macro. Just watch some of his epic expansion heavy games on Twisted Meadows. (I'm searching for a VOD)
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
February 04 2010 18:27 GMT
#78
On February 05 2010 03:09 shin ken wrote:

Moon isn't just the best WC3 player is of all time aka the fifth race, he also has incredible macro. Just watch some of his epic expansion heavy games on Twisted Meadows. (I'm searching for a VOD)


True. I remember watching moon vs some decent korean human on LT (aka human's wet dream). Moon expanded all over the place. Had to rebuild his base because his main was rolled by steam tanks and still managed to pull of a win by simply having a far superior macro.

But you really cannot compare wc3 macro with sc macro at all. I mean you earn far less resources, units are are much more expensive in comparison to sc, you need far less buildings and you have far less production facilities...

So Moon obviosly has practiced sc quite hard or simply has an incredible talent in RTS games (probably both).
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 18:37:51
February 04 2010 18:37 GMT
#79
One thing I guess has to be mentioned:
It's not always the most winning player in house being sent out as ace.
Especially if its like 2-3% difference, maybe one player just had the better month?
Also Frozean for example always had a really great in house ranking for KHAN (like top3-4) but just tends to choke in important matches, thus they didn't even sent him when he was #1 in house.
Some players just manage to cope with pressure better than others.
Same example (lol Samsung again) can be done with JangBi, who always was "Stork level" in practice but really failed to deliver in official matches until his breakout in 2008.

Take those kinda rankings with a grain of salt atleast, it gives you and the coaches a slight impression of who has been doing good, but in the end you wanna send out your most reliable player (if under pressure) for the ace matches.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
February 04 2010 18:49 GMT
#80
lol @ Rock ceremony. I completely forgot about it

The ranking is pretty interesting. I wish more team released them. But I highly doubt it as it cintains pretty useful information ofr the opponent teams.
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