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pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
January 27 2010 08:45 GMT
#161
I just realized FPL scoring and the WL format really punishes expensive ace players on deep teams such as Effort, Calm, Flash, Bisu, Zero etc. because you can't expect them to ever get a alot of wins unless they get sent to lead off, which is rarely going to happen. Those deep teams will probably send their young prospects and A-level players before they send the S-Class ace player. It's quite possible the supporting cast can get the job done before the ace player shows up. Zero has not made an appearance yet because Woonjin doesn't need him (Woonjin doesn't need anyone besides G-Chizzle). I can see many sets where KT will not need Flash. Frankly, I expect someone like the Guem-baller to get more all-kills than Flash or Bisu because those guys will rarely be sent in before their team already has 1 or more wins. Jaedong is a different story because Oz might never win a match without him. Now I wish I spread out my FPL money more evenly across players.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
January 27 2010 08:53 GMT
#162
On January 27 2010 17:45 pylonsalad wrote:
I just realized FPL scoring and the WL format really punishes expensive ace players on deep teams such as Effort, Calm, Flash, Bisu, Zero etc. because you can't expect them to ever get a alot of wins unless they get sent to lead off, which is rarely going to happen. Those deep teams will probably send their young prospects and A-level players before they send the S-Class ace player. It's quite possible the supporting cast can get the job done before the ace player shows up. Zero has not made an appearance yet because Woonjin doesn't need him (Woonjin doesn't need anyone besides G-Chizzle). I can see many sets where KT will not need Flash. Frankly, I expect someone like the Guem-baller to get more all-kills than Flash or Bisu because those guys will rarely be sent in before their team already has 1 or more wins. Jaedong is a different story because Oz might never win a match without him. Now I wish I spread out my FPL money more evenly across players.

I agree otherwise, but Zero did play. He started vs ACE... And lost.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 08:56:04
January 27 2010 08:53 GMT
#163
On January 27 2010 17:45 pylonsalad wrote:
I just realized FPL scoring and the WL format really punishes expensive ace players on deep teams such as Effort, Calm, Flash, Bisu, Zero etc. because you can't expect them to ever get a alot of wins unless they get sent to lead off, which is rarely going to happen. Those deep teams will probably send their young prospects and A-level players before they send the S-Class ace player. It's quite possible the supporting cast can get the job done before the ace player shows up. Zero has not made an appearance yet because Woonjin doesn't need him (Woonjin doesn't need anyone besides G-Chizzle). I can see many sets where KT will not need Flash. Frankly, I expect someone like the Guem-baller to get more all-kills than Flash or Bisu because those guys will rarely be sent in before their team already has 1 or more wins. Jaedong is a different story because Oz might never win a match without him. Now I wish I spread out my FPL money more evenly across players.

Zero made an appearance, he was sent first vs Ace, probably the most coveted position of any player on an FPL team. He had the opportunity to all-kill a pretty easy team, but blew it. Bisu was sent out when it was 2-0 Samsung, and could've gotten a streak break point and at least a win or two.

If you look at the last WL standings, Bisu, Flash, and Jaedong all did very well. Bisu went 20-6 and Flash 18-4. I suppose you could argue that KT and SKT weren't as good back then, but this week SKT lost, CJ lost, and KT / STX both went to Set 7, so it's really not so bad for aces -- they all got to play.
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 08:56:44
January 27 2010 08:56 GMT
#164
Its still very early to assume, their still at the warm-up period.

Great time to get some unexpected points from non-S* class players.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
January 27 2010 09:09 GMT
#165
oops... forgot Zero started the first set. But I still think having 2 medium cost guys like Light and Best is better value for WL format than a $10 boss like Flash.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
January 27 2010 09:24 GMT
#166
oh wow Guemchi.. and guess what, Dalailamer has him, share those cheats of yours dude!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
January 27 2010 09:30 GMT
#167
so, this WL is basically :

you got guemchi -> You win!
you got FBH on your anti -> You lose!

lol, i love WL format
BW is back
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
January 27 2010 09:41 GMT
#168
On January 27 2010 18:30 Jackal03 wrote:
so, this WL is basically :

you got guemchi -> You win!
you got FBH on your anti -> You lose!

lol, i love WL format


I have both, and I'm still doing ok.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
January 27 2010 17:49 GMT
#169
I didn't pick Guemchi, but otherwise, I'm doing really well, a lot better I expected
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
JadeFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1225 Posts
January 27 2010 22:40 GMT
#170
On January 28 2010 02:49 ndralcasid wrote:
I didn't pick Guemchi, but otherwise, I'm doing really well, a lot better I expected

Yeah, same. So frustrating not to not have picked him though.

I spent like hours forming and reforming my team. I think Guemchi was on it at one point. :p
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
January 27 2010 23:38 GMT
#171
Rank 16. This will prolly be my peak =].
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
January 27 2010 23:52 GMT
#172
To think I ended last round on #18, and now I sit at -3 points, with ForGG of all people being my best scorer! And I could have had Guemchi for the same price.
Pinnacle55
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore173 Posts
January 28 2010 00:01 GMT
#173
On January 27 2010 17:53 JohannesH wrote:
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On January 27 2010 17:45 pylonsalad wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I just realized FPL scoring and the WL format really punishes expensive ace players on deep teams such as Effort, Calm, Flash, Bisu, Zero etc. because you can't expect them to ever get a alot of wins unless they get sent to lead off, which is rarely going to happen. Those deep teams will probably send their young prospects and A-level players before they send the S-Class ace player. It's quite possible the supporting cast can get the job done before the ace player shows up. Zero has not made an appearance yet because Woonjin doesn't need him (Woonjin doesn't need anyone besides G-Chizzle). I can see many sets where KT will not need Flash. Frankly, I expect someone like the Guem-baller to get more all-kills than Flash or Bisu because those guys will rarely be sent in before their team already has 1 or more wins. Jaedong is a different story because Oz might never win a match without him. Now I wish I spread out my FPL money more evenly across players.

I agree otherwise, but Zero did play. He started vs ACE... And lost.


Lol, I remember this...I also remember some poor soul in the live report thread putting Zero on his team and Gorush on his anti the moment the line-ups came out.

Ouch is all I can say.
There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9049 Posts
January 28 2010 05:54 GMT
#174
Don't think Guemchi will score any point this round though.
amoeba
Profile Joined October 2004
United States283 Posts
January 28 2010 23:18 GMT
#175
The ZvZ, she is a fickle mistress.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
January 29 2010 11:25 GMT
#176
Zero -> Fantasy and Effort -> Light. Play the lineups I guess, I can't do much else anyway.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
January 29 2010 11:32 GMT
#177
I stick with my woongji team lol.
n_n
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 29 2010 20:11 GMT
#178
WL trades are for chumps
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 30 2010 05:17 GMT
#179
WL spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +
Whoever got FBH for anti can drop all hope for a decent finishing.
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
January 30 2010 06:02 GMT
#180
+ Show Spoiler +
Firebathero has killed me
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