EPT[FPL] WL 09-10 Discussion - Page 4
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neustadt
Germany39 Posts
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On January 22 2010 02:02 neustadt wrote: question: do players in the anti-team get points for lineup, which count against you? yes, they get points like every other player except the points count against you | ||
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neustadt
Germany39 Posts
On January 22 2010 02:11 Kyuukyuu wrote: yes, they get points like every other player except the points count against you so I'd rather place 3 medicore players, then say bisu and two chobos. although bisu will loose his games he will be placed more often, which will score against me. | ||
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noddyz
United Kingdom462 Posts
Personal adivce: don't put Bisu on your anti for winners league. That's suicide. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
So what I'm thinking is, which big-name players are least likely to have kills vultured by a bad player picking up a couple wins? KT players look like bad gambles this year. Flash, Luxury (sort of), and Violet are all pretty good. Although Violet a little bit and Luxury A LOT are unpredictable, KT is likely to lead with Stats/Barracks/815/HoeJJa/Tempest who are all reasonably good. As long as they don't revert to sending fOrGG out at critical moments... What about other teams? SKT players Bisu, fantasy, and maybe BeSt look like good pickups, because their bad CJ will likely rampage again: even though Much is gone and Iris is playing poorly, skyhigh and Effort can rip things up. Movie, Snow, and Hydra are all coming along nicely too. But CJ never all-killed last year and it's less likely now, I think. Effort's too good to be sniped reliably, but by the same token he'll be saved for last. I think Jaedong will rack up the most kills of anybody - unless HiyA goes crazy again. Killer is likely to be a lead player and could do some damage, but is weak vT so easily sniped. The rest of OZ is kind of sucky. I like MBC but I don't feel like they have any all-kill threats at the moment. Light's the closest. Pusan's the only one I feel has the nerves for it and he hasn't been playing pretty much at all. hite's only trump card is Leta, and Yarnc's a wild card at best. Horang2 should be a good PvP sniper - aaaand that's about it. eSTRO? Really's been very good, but everyone else is kind of inconsistent - also he's almost hit 50% wins again, which means he's due to start playing badly. Flying, as long as he stays away from Really Good Zergs, could make a splash. KHAN worries me. Winners League last year was the start of their fall. TurN could break out, but I don't like any of their main players. Maybe Jangbi? WeMade will suffer this round; they have no ace-quality players - but as a result they almost have to lead with the good players they do have, which might make RorO, Mind, and Shine good gambles for FPL. STX stands to do well behind Kal and Calm, and Last played well during last year's WL as well. Stars? ZerO is a star, free and Kwanro are dangerous. They'll get most of Woongjin's wins, too: the next best player on the squad is probably CrazyHydra. Or Piano, if people throw Zergs at him all day again. And ACE? No idea. | ||
TheFallofTroy
Canada780 Posts
On January 22 2010 03:19 Musoeun wrote: I like MBC but I don't feel like they have any all-kill threats at the moment. Light's the closest. I think you forgot about Team Liquid's good friend Sea[Shield], he is their ace player and is always a huge threat. On January 22 2010 03:19 Musoeun wrote: And ACE? No idea. Air force Ace doesn't really have a standout player, but they do have Much who can compete with most good players. Also, Ruby/Anytime can play well from time to time. | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
 ZerO 4-0's ACE in his first match and then say he wins 2 games in his 2nd match against CJ, will I be able to trade him for Jaedong by week 2? Assuming that Jaedong stays in his spot as far as points go. | ||
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Phelix
1931 Posts
SKT: Bisu, Fantasy, Best, Canata SKT could play Zergs to snipe a matchup, but that's about what they are for. They could use other Terrans such as Mong, iloveoov, or Boxer, but that's highly unlikely. KTF: Flash, Violet, Luxury, (?) KTF has a lot of good players, and their 4th player could be ForGG, Stats, Hoejja, almost anyone on that roster could be it. CJ: Skyhigh, Effort, Movie, (?) Like KTF, CJ has a bunch of players that could all kill, and their roster is deep enough that they could use almost any race. Savior, Hydra, Snow, Nbs, Iris could all be used to snipe the opponent. OZ: Jaedong, HiYa, Killer, (?) One man show with Jaedong. Hiya could pick up some kills, but they don't have a very deep lineup past that. Killer is going to play some matches simply because the Coach wants to play him and there is a lack of options. Backho and Lomo have disappeared. GGaemo and Perfectman are simply not good enough to win any matches. STX: Calm, Kal, (?), (?) STX has such a deep lineup, that picking anyone else except for Calm and Kal would be a toss-up. There are Terrans such as Hwasin, Frozen, Bogus and Last, Zergs with Hero and Modesty, and Protoss with Shuttle. MBC: Light, Sea, Han, HyuN Of course, MBC could go with Saint, Shark, or Jaehoon as the fourth player, but I'm not so sure who's going to take that spot. Probably going to be sent out by opponent's weakness. OGN: Leta, Yarnc, (?), (?) OGN doesn't really have any good players from these two. They have type-b, HoGil, go.go, Justin and Horang2 to round out these two spots. Stars: Zero, free, Kwanro, (?) The spot could go to one of the numerous Woongjin Terrans, or Guemchi, which is much more likely since he did start out with 2 appearances in 08-09 Winner's League, though he has disappeared and slumping. Fox: Mind, Roro, Shine, Pure I expect this core group to continue to play in this Winner's League, without much depth behind them except for Midas, Baby, and possibly Lucifer. They do have issues, as they had a poor record in their ACE matches in the last round, and Winner's League format could be really bad for this team. KHAN: Stork, Jangbi, Firebathero, Great Khan is hard to guess, since their coach likes to play their players evenly, so TurN, Miracle, M18M, and oDin could all get appearances. Most of their players are inconsistent to some extent, and could perform really well, or terribly. eSTRO: Really, hyvaa, (?), (?) The two spots could go to UpMagic, Fancy, SangHo, Flying, or Action. If Really and hyvaa loses, I think that eStro will not win the match against any opponent except ACE. ACE: (?), (?), (?), (?) Almost anyone can play from ACE, with such a short roster, except Casy and Cloud. Even then, I wouldn't count them out. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On January 22 2010 07:11 TheFallofTroy wrote: I think you forgot about Team Liquid's good friend Sea[Shield], he is their ace player and is always a huge threat. Sea's a good player, no doubt, but I don't see him as a threat to all-kill. His Round 1 was fantastic, Round 2 less so: 6-6. Also their ace player lately has mostly been Hyun (5-6 last round). | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On January 21 2010 21:14 Scorch wrote: Who do you think is the best 1 pointer? I'm torn between Modesty, July,  Stats and GoRush.July can be used as a sick ZvP sniper, and I sure would use him if I were STX's coach. Modesty is probably the better player overall and usually gets more play time than July. Stats is quite good I think, but will he get any play time in KT's monster roster? GoRush goes first in both of ACE's matches first week, and will be playing a lot. But he'll lose most games and get no team win points. Who to go for? Someone not on my list even? Snow? Pusan?  PuMa? PianO? Orion? M18M? Lomo? FireFist?Either Pusan or July are great 1 pointers . The question is will the coatches decide to send them out ... | ||
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Mr Right
Sweden67 Posts
On January 22 2010 16:49 Oystein wrote: Do the "must play all races" rule apply to Winners league also? Or can SKT totally ditch their Zergs and Woojing never field a Terran etc? The rule did not apply last seasons winners league. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
anyway for 1 pointers, stats and firefist will probably get play time, snow maybe. pusan/july hopefully but don't count on it, especially july  | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
So Stats, FireFist, 815 for example would seem to be some nice choices even when you cant know who of them would be playing. | ||
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
ForGG or Ruby? | ||
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On January 23 2010 11:25 ThunderGod wrote: Stars or Oz? ForGG or Ruby? jaedong oz forgg | ||
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abaDURRR
Canada88 Posts
I hope Yarnc doesn't decide to start being good again | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On January 21 2010 22:40 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote: man all the midling players seem so expensive this season, my team looks like an absolute pile of crap Ignoring the 0 and 1 point players, the average player price has increased by 0.75 this round (yes, I have a FPL spreadsheet...). At least there are lots of good anti-team choices! | ||
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FranzF1
Chile1710 Posts
Flying, hyvaa or Action...T_T Its really hard cus hyvaa player really good last WL but Flying is geting better and he allkiled MBC on the STX cup (he knows how to play diferents MU on one night) and Action is like the next big zerg. I think that im going with Flying. | ||
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