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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
January 11 2010 03:05 GMT
#41
Great article, nice work.

I'm so fucking tempted to write one called "Victory after victory" and put nothing but 1a2a3a in the op
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
January 11 2010 03:06 GMT
#42
protoss doesnt seem to have a definite leader in the way that zerg and terran do.

bisu and stork are probably the most likely candidates. there's only 4 to choose from. who would they be? there are many decent protosses (ten dragons), but none dominant like jaedong or flash.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
a11
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany303 Posts
January 11 2010 03:55 GMT
#43
Just wait with the Protoss one until the Starleagues are over, maybe it will have become clearer then.
ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
January 11 2010 04:14 GMT
#44
On January 11 2010 12:05 minus_human wrote:
Great article, nice work.

I'm so fucking tempted to write one called "Victory after victory" and put nothing but 1a2a3a in the op


LOVE IT! Great article overall too though.
Whenever I see a dropship, my asshole tingles, because it knows whats coming... - TheAntZ
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
January 11 2010 04:21 GMT
#45
If the Protoss one is made, they must all be compiled, or at lest linked together, that would be sick; a historic collection to commemorate this era of BW, so later generations will know we were here!
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 11 2010 04:34 GMT
#46
On January 11 2010 13:21 Kimaker wrote:
If the Protoss one is made, they must all be compiled, or at lest linked together, that would be sick; a historic collection to commemorate this era of BW, so later generations will know we were here!


Impossible. The Terran one is biased.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 11 2010 04:38 GMT
#47
On January 11 2010 13:34 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 13:21 Kimaker wrote:
If the Protoss one is made, they must all be compiled, or at lest linked together, that would be sick; a historic collection to commemorate this era of BW, so later generations will know we were here!


Impossible. The Terran one is biased.


Indeed, they purposely excluded any SKT1 terran materials inputting on that OP as if they NEVER EXISTED in the first place....

At least this OP and thread makes more sense....
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
January 11 2010 04:52 GMT
#48
Zerg ftw <3
TranslatorBaa!
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
January 11 2010 04:56 GMT
#49
Yeah? I don't think these articles are intended to be all that objective though. I mean, if the Terran one started from The Emperor (basically the roots of developed progaming industry in Korea), why doesn't this one mention July or Yellow?


nice reads anyway
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 11 2010 05:02 GMT
#50
Standing ovietion!!!
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
January 11 2010 05:53 GMT
#51
right.. this is all good and everything but why is there no picture of sAviOr at the start?
Also.. I thought Calm back in like 2006 or 2007-> evveryone thought that he was going to be like one of the best players but nothing ever happened until 2009? I could be totally wrong though lol
Entusman #51
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 06:39:37
January 11 2010 06:36 GMT
#52
On January 11 2010 08:56 neobowman wrote:
Protoss executors learned the ways of fast expansion, crushing the swarm's opposition for over a year.

Nice writeup but fast expanding was pretty standard even before Savior reached his peak. If you by "ways of fast expansion" mean that the protosses got better at fast expanding and learned how to follow up a lot better then I agree.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 11 2010 06:37 GMT
#53
On January 11 2010 15:36 DrainX wrote:
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On January 11 2010 08:56 neobowman wrote:
Protoss executors learned the ways of fast expansion, crushing the swarm's opposition for over a year.

Nice writeup but fast expanding was pretty standard even before Savior reached his peak.


I think Bisu popularized the forge first fast expansion?
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
January 11 2010 06:39 GMT
#54
Everyone forgets July.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
January 11 2010 06:40 GMT
#55
On January 11 2010 15:37 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 15:36 DrainX wrote:
On January 11 2010 08:56 neobowman wrote:
Protoss executors learned the ways of fast expansion, crushing the swarm's opposition for over a year.

Nice writeup but fast expanding was pretty standard even before Savior reached his peak.


I think Bisu popularized the forge first fast expansion?

no.. i think it was Nal_rA... They were doing forge fast expand ->+1 speedlot rushes long before Bisu I know that.
3hatch muta>+1speedlot rush
3hatch muta<bisu build
Entusman #51
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 06:41:23
January 11 2010 06:40 GMT
#56
On January 11 2010 15:37 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 15:36 DrainX wrote:
On January 11 2010 08:56 neobowman wrote:
Protoss executors learned the ways of fast expansion, crushing the swarm's opposition for over a year.

Nice writeup but fast expanding was pretty standard even before Savior reached his peak.


I think Bisu popularized the forge first fast expansion?

No. Nal_ra and others did that a lot earlier. Bisu popularized getting a lot of corsairs + DTs after you have fast expanded.
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 11 2010 06:42 GMT
#57
Victory After Victory is up

originally I had it as 4d5d6d7d8d9d0d 1a2a3a

but then I made a real one
Kal Fighting!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 11 2010 06:42 GMT
#58
Daezang!
Jaedong
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10347 Posts
January 11 2010 12:36 GMT
#59
But Kwanro is more accomplished than Zero or EffOrt :/ ...
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
January 11 2010 13:43 GMT
#60
I felt that Kwanro wasn't as important in todays scene compared to Zero and Effort. Just a personal opinion.

Oh, and I was going to mention July and Yellow in the article too, but they never really led the Zerg. Yellow was always in second, and July had his own way of playing that only he could do.
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