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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 16:59:05
January 10 2010 18:22 GMT
#1
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In the beginning. terran was always considered the weakest race—humans stepped hesitantly into the cold and unfriendly battlefield, unready yet wary of the dangerous foes which awaited them. Naturaly disadvantaged, humans exhibited none of the natural physical strength or ability or their Protoss and Zerg foes. But one man, undaunted, ventured into the unknown, and found success where others had failed. The Terran had found their leader—their emperor, and his people were won over by his innovation and charisma. The sons of the human kingdom eagerly learned under him, and the strength of the Empire grew.

With his eventual fall of their leader, the Terran would find new leaders to rally behind and prosper. They learned to macro. They learned to dominate. After many years of progress, the enemies of the Empire witnessed spectacular change. Mechanically sound, these modern day terrans were nothing like their pioneer ancestors; they did not fear, and grew confident underneath strong leadership.

However, the Empire plunged into chaos—with the lack of a figurehead, Aiur’s forces and the Overmind ran rampant through the humans. The Age of the one perfect terran—that perfect war machine, seemed past its time. Many modern day terrans exhibited aspects of their founders, but were ultimately not well-rounded enough. They displayed their own flair, whether it be immaculate control or clockwork unit production, and all proudly carried the Empire’s banner; but sadly, each fell short of perfection.

On their home planets, the Protoss and Zerg enjoyed the brief lull in human activity. But the silence told nothing. Rumors ran rampant within each race, and paranoia as well. They wondered if a revolution was at foot, and it was spreading that the Empire was rallying back. Their suspicions were confirmed; the coming autumn marked the return of the Terran people.

The Resurrected Lieutenant

Sea[Shield]

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Guess who’s back?


No newcomer for sure, Yum Bo Sung first broke through many years ago. Widely respected for his success at the Zerg front, he eventually fell back into obscurity because he faltered most without his faithful comrades and when he was on his own. His troop, though, found new energy in his resurgence; his astounding victories in dealing with enemy human Dominions and even the Tyrant himself brought new hope to the Empire.

The Juggernaut Commodore

Really

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Orly? Yarly, motherfucker.


Gaining momentum, the Juggernaut Terran has been rampaging through the Protoss forces, leaving little in his wake. Impressively, he has been victorious in his last ten battles versus Aiur. His cold, calculating decision making backed by steady reinforcement has left the Empire raising eyebrows. Performing exceptionally for his homelands of eStro, Park Sang Woo earned the respect of the Empire, and eagerly awaits to draw Protoss blood.

The Strategist

Leta

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Cute.

Shin Sang Moon’s domination within 2009 astounded his people and bewildered his foes. Clean usage of the Terran arsenal, sometimes unorthodox, continually left his enemies bewildered and humiliated on the battlefield. Charismatic, Leta has become the very face of the Sparkyz, and when the frost set in and conditions become inhospitable, Shin Sang Moon has reinvigorated his play and is quickly approaching his old level of domination.

With much more talent making its way up through Terran ranks, except those which came from the radioactive desert outpost of Woongjin,the revolution was here. A leader had risen forth: their perfect terran, their war machine, their ultimate weapon.

Their Commander

Flash

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This caption played Flash, and was utterly destroyed.

His rebirth in the autumn of 2009 marked the return of the Empire. Though never one to falter tremendously, he had his uncertain periods and people questioned his ability to win more titles. It was this autumn where he took those doubts, smashed them into pieces, and scattered them through the universe. With the ushering in of this new leader, the Empire would rise to the top. His fluid defenses could only be described as perfection, his unstoppable offense unchallengable. In the winter of 2009 and 2010, Aiur and the Overmind knew. Their times were over; the Age of Terran had just begun. All trembled. All feared. All respected:

Lee Young Ho, The Triumph of War
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 18:23:12
January 10 2010 18:22 GMT
#2
Much inspired from a whole week at 999posts and just waiting for the right idea, I really wanted to write something special—not just one of those other terrible threads that I have created. I have never been really one to contribute much to the forum, but I inexplicably spend much of my time on it. This article is just my way of doing justice to some of my favorite terrans on the scene right now and giving back to the teamliquid community; please feel free to disagree with the content itself. I hope everybody enjoys my 1000th post.

Images courtesy of nevergg, fomos, fighterforum, and blizzard.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
January 10 2010 18:32 GMT
#3
Sick!

Needs an Idra entry though.
My strategy is to fork people.
yes9111
Profile Joined May 2009
United States420 Posts
January 10 2010 18:33 GMT
#4
Wowowowow Excellent writeup.

Where is Fantasy though =(?
Otherwise good choices and Flash really is a beast..
STORK WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 18:35:30
January 10 2010 18:34 GMT
#5
I like the pictures.

The article is pretty cool too. That would be a scarey force lead by these guys :D.
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
January 10 2010 18:37 GMT
#6
Were ish fantasy?? ;(
Dota 3hard5me
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 18:49:45
January 10 2010 18:39 GMT
#7
lmao i hate him.

thus he was excluded. that and, he was sorta in the shithole for a while+ Show Spoiler +
though he is back if you watched yesterday's PL match.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 10 2010 18:48 GMT
#8
Fantasy deserves to be listed there even if you hate him, come on.

Awesome otherwise!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
January 10 2010 18:53 GMT
#9
Nope, Fantasy doesn't belong here. I fully support you TS.

Also, Google Chrome is now classifying fomos.kr as a page containing malware haha.
Marines > everything
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
January 10 2010 18:59 GMT
#10
Fantasy who?
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
January 10 2010 18:59 GMT
#11
On January 11 2010 03:53 vnlegend wrote:
Nope, Fantasy doesn't belong here. I fully support you TS.

Also, Google Chrome is now classifying fomos.kr as a page containing malware haha.


Care giving any arguments to why Fantasy doesn't belong there?

If you don't like fantasy and so you don't want to put it there, fine, but saying he doesn't belong is just nonsense. He was considered 2nd best Terran for quite a while (some even considered him to be 1rst when Flash was slumping). He brought change to PvZ and his PvT was always awesome to watch due to his vulture and dropship play.
Freedom is a stranger
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 10 2010 19:12 GMT
#12
Fun read. I fully support the resurgence of the Terran race, even if it's pretty much limited to the Proleague so far (other than Flash ofcourse)

On January 11 2010 03:53 vnlegend wrote:
Also, Google Chrome is now classifying fomos.kr as a page containing malware haha.


So does Firefox.

Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 10 2010 19:18 GMT
#13
Grrr.... This is exactly why I was pretty much the only zerg player who welcomed the Protoss Golden with open arms. SC has been dominated by terrans since the beginning. Three (And now potentially four) of the four bonjwas (Now potentially five) were terran. You've had sooo much, yet you're not satisfied and you want more and more and more! Truly a terran mentality. Damn stinkin' humans.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 10 2010 22:00 GMT
#14
On January 11 2010 04:18 Warrior Madness wrote:
Grrr.... This is exactly why I was pretty much the only zerg player who welcomed the Protoss Golden with open arms. SC has been dominated by terrans since the beginning. Three (And now potentially four) of the four bonjwas (Now potentially five) were terran. You've had sooo much, yet you're not satisfied and you want more and more and more! Truly a terran mentality. Damn stinkin' humans.
we are awesome.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Ambergris_sTarTer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines166 Posts
January 10 2010 22:08 GMT
#15
Where's Boxer? ...just joking
If there would be a proleague in the Philippines, we from Ambergris will take it!
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 10 2010 22:11 GMT
#16
Upmagic? Hwasin?
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 10 2010 22:12 GMT
#17
You added Really, but not Fantasy? Wtf...
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
January 10 2010 22:18 GMT
#18
Great read man.
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 22:51:37
January 10 2010 22:22 GMT
#19
getting security warnings from where ever those images come from.

edit: from fomos.kr
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 10 2010 22:37 GMT
#20
hehe fantasy and ooooov
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
January 10 2010 22:52 GMT
#21
it's "revolution was afoot" not at foot lol

nice article though
Nony is Bonjwa
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
January 10 2010 23:17 GMT
#22
Nice article. Weird how I haven't seen the OP banner picture in so long, even though it's THE BW picture. (kinda) XD
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 10 2010 23:26 GMT
#23
you forgot bogus, justin, and mong
RIP Aaliyah
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 10 2010 23:33 GMT
#24
This soooooooooooo pathetic and so cool
10/10
Power is your Intelligence
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 10 2010 23:34 GMT
#25
On January 11 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
you forgot bogus, justin, and mong


Heeey
i want to say something!
Power is your Intelligence
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
January 10 2010 23:37 GMT
#26
Nice write-up.
Of course it came from a Terran fan-boy ^ ^
I don't think the Terran race really had a devastating period of activity or success, in the early years of Boxer, Oov, Nada, Terrans were always present in the higher/more final stages of tournaments and oh, how many times were there TvZ finals.. I think a more remarkable aspect of it was the adaptation the Protoss showed and forcing their way into the territory known as Starleague Finals by way of Reach, Nal_rA, Kingdom, Anytime, Much, Free, then the Dragons that came along, obviously ^ ^

This tremendous support-post designed to cherish Flash, all coming after a TvT loss last night in the Proleague.
Here's lookin' forward to his Finals against Movie
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 10 2010 23:38 GMT
#27
idra - the renegade bm terran
8==========))
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14900 Posts
January 10 2010 23:38 GMT
#28
On January 11 2010 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
you forgot bogus, justin, and mong


uh huh
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
January 11 2010 00:00 GMT
#29
Dude, that was awesome
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
January 11 2010 00:40 GMT
#30
Really has been incredible this season.

Good for him.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 11 2010 00:48 GMT
#31
The Tragic Hero, The Best Terran Nobody Cares About, The Bad Player, and God
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 01:27:36
January 11 2010 01:23 GMT
#32
WTF? Leta is on there? Sea is on there? Really is on there? Where the hell is Fantasy????

You know there is a build named after him and it revolutionized TvZ for two entire seasons, right?

Sure, Fantasy is out of both leagues, but why are Leta and Really on there if he isn't?

+ Show Spoiler +
Really recognized Fantasy as the 2nd best Terran during his winner's interview. That means in the Korean community, Fantasy is STILL considered as the 2nd best Terran. Surely this is absolute injustice!


Otherwise, nice writeup.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 11 2010 01:38 GMT
#33
On January 11 2010 10:23 dukethegold wrote:
WTF? Leta is on there? Sea is on there? Really is on there? Where the hell is Fantasy????

You know there is a build named after him and it revolutionized TvZ for two entire seasons, right?

Sure, Fantasy is out of both leagues, but why are Leta and Really on there if he isn't?

+ Show Spoiler +
Really recognized Fantasy as the 2nd best Terran during his winner's interview. That means in the Korean community, Fantasy is STILL considered as the 2nd best Terran. Surely this is absolute injustice!


Otherwise, nice writeup.
lol i know. i just...dont...like...fantasy and i like leta a whole lot more. besides, he recently came out of the SKT shithole after a month of slumping.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 11 2010 01:40 GMT
#34
On January 11 2010 09:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
The Tragic Hero, The Best Terran Nobody Cares About, The Bad Player, and God


Haha, also good titles, lol@ the bad player

Fantasy is of course missing, sure hes had some bad weeks but someone of his caliber is bound to come back eventually
But oh well, if you hate the guy, that's fine ^^
beep boop
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 11 2010 01:50 GMT
#35
Where's the SKT1 terrans?!?!? No mention for them at all??? BoxeR, Oov, Fantasy??? This is BIAS!!! I do not approve!
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 11 2010 02:13 GMT
#36
Need more explicit reference to nada in the intro plz.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
January 11 2010 02:22 GMT
#37
needs fantasy, for sure. getting silver twice is nothing to laugh at. (it is after 5-6 times)
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 11 2010 02:24 GMT
#38
If you want fantasy on the list then make your own.

The writer has said he doesn't like Fantasy and hence didn't add him. I for one agree with that, and if you don't then right your own or don't bitch.
natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
January 11 2010 02:27 GMT
#39
upmagic?
This nigga done stole my bike.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 02:33:48
January 11 2010 02:33 GMT
#40
On January 11 2010 10:23 dukethegold wrote:
WTF? Leta is on there? Sea is on there? Really is on there? Where the hell is Fantasy????

You know there is a build named after him and it revolutionized TvZ for two entire seasons, right?

Sure, Fantasy is out of both leagues, but why are Leta and Really on there if he isn't?

+ Show Spoiler +
Really recognized Fantasy as the 2nd best Terran during his winner's interview. That means in the Korean community, Fantasy is STILL considered as the 2nd best Terran. Surely this is absolute injustice!


Otherwise, nice writeup.


Learn the meaning of revolutionized.

This implies that it was used (to great effect) for a long period of time when in fact it was a gimmicky build with a GIGANTIC timing window that he had to use because his MnM micro is so awful it's often physically painful to watch.

All a zerg had to do to beat that build was like... earlier hydralisks >.>. It didn't change the entire dynamic of TvZ
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 11 2010 02:42 GMT
#41
You included Leta but not Fantasy? If you're going to write about the Terran race and its players, include all the good players, not just the ones you like.
Writerptrk
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 02:57:45
January 11 2010 02:55 GMT
#42
On January 11 2010 11:33 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 10:23 dukethegold wrote:
WTF? Leta is on there? Sea is on there? Really is on there? Where the hell is Fantasy????

You know there is a build named after him and it revolutionized TvZ for two entire seasons, right?

Sure, Fantasy is out of both leagues, but why are Leta and Really on there if he isn't?

+ Show Spoiler +
Really recognized Fantasy as the 2nd best Terran during his winner's interview. That means in the Korean community, Fantasy is STILL considered as the 2nd best Terran. Surely this is absolute injustice!


Otherwise, nice writeup.


Learn the meaning of revolutionized.

This implies that it was used (to great effect) for a long period of time when in fact it was a gimmicky build with a GIGANTIC timing window that he had to use because his MnM micro is so awful it's often physically painful to watch.

All a zerg had to do to beat that build was like... earlier hydralisks >.>. It didn't change the entire dynamic of TvZ


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80595

Don't argue with me, go argue with Day[9].

People did not stop using Mech because it was weak. People stopped using it because the new maps disfavor Mech. The reason is obvious. No audience want to watch Mechfest for all three matchups. M&M is too sexy to be obsolete.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 11 2010 02:59 GMT
#43
On January 11 2010 10:50 QuickStriker wrote:
Where's the SKT1 terrans?!?!? No mention for them at all??? BoxeR, Oov, Fantasy??? This is BIAS!!! I do not approve!

alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
January 11 2010 03:04 GMT
#44
On January 11 2010 11:59 DoX.) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 10:50 QuickStriker wrote:
Where's the SKT1 terrans?!?!? No mention for them at all??? BoxeR, Oov, Fantasy??? This is BIAS!!! I do not approve!


boxer and oov were both mentioned in roundabout ways
fantasy was dodged because the writer hates him for inexplicable reasons
more weight
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
January 11 2010 03:06 GMT
#45
very nice article, thank you for the effort!
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
January 11 2010 03:13 GMT
#46
Shouldn't nada be here since he's technically the most successful player ever?
Dota 3hard5me
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 03:28:16
January 11 2010 03:27 GMT
#47
Iris is a better Juggernaut

ohwait. this is all for 2010. YOU NEED FANTASY
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
January 11 2010 03:35 GMT
#48
Idra should be in there as a Private.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
R A V
Profile Joined November 2009
United States217 Posts
January 11 2010 03:55 GMT
#49
On January 11 2010 12:35 Mykill wrote:
Idra should be in there making Tossgirl cry.

Jaedong? More like JDAWG
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 11 2010 04:08 GMT
#50
On January 11 2010 11:42 ArvickHero wrote:
You included Leta but not Fantasy? If you're going to write about the Terran race and its players, include all the good players, not just the ones you like.
i will write about whatever the fuck i please.

and i subtly mentioned boxer, oov, and nada (though nada's reference is pretty subtle).
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
January 11 2010 04:16 GMT
#51
On January 11 2010 11:24 On_Slaught wrote:
If you want fantasy on the list then make your own.

The writer has said he doesn't like Fantasy and hence didn't add him. I for one agree with that, and if you don't then right your own or don't bitch.

This thread is obviously opening discussion on current best terrans and how they stomp everyone, and lots of people believe Fantasy should be on that list (and apparently sea and really don't in place of him :/), hardly bitching, just wondering why he's not there when he's clearly good.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 11 2010 04:20 GMT
#52
On January 11 2010 09:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
The Tragic Hero, The Best Terran Nobody Cares About, The Bad Player, and God


lolol

all summed up right here
Forever Young
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
January 11 2010 05:56 GMT
#53
terran have always been considered the weakest race... which is why terran users consistently kept winning osl titles.. lol. and uhh.. where is fantasy? lol
Entusman #51
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 11 2010 06:23 GMT
#54
On January 11 2010 14:56 Mobius wrote:
terran have always been considered the weakest race... which is why terran users consistently kept winning osl titles.. lol. and uhh.. where is fantasy? lol


In the beginning, Terran was the weakest, yeah. Before BW expansion (medic) and patch 1.08, Terran was pretty much on the losing end.

Then came a guy whose ID is Boxer and changed everything.

As for Fantasy, the author already explained he is a very biased person and hates Fantasy's guts.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 11 2010 06:26 GMT
#55
On January 11 2010 11:55 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 11:33 Jayme wrote:
On January 11 2010 10:23 dukethegold wrote:
WTF? Leta is on there? Sea is on there? Really is on there? Where the hell is Fantasy????

You know there is a build named after him and it revolutionized TvZ for two entire seasons, right?

Sure, Fantasy is out of both leagues, but why are Leta and Really on there if he isn't?

+ Show Spoiler +
Really recognized Fantasy as the 2nd best Terran during his winner's interview. That means in the Korean community, Fantasy is STILL considered as the 2nd best Terran. Surely this is absolute injustice!


Otherwise, nice writeup.


Learn the meaning of revolutionized.

This implies that it was used (to great effect) for a long period of time when in fact it was a gimmicky build with a GIGANTIC timing window that he had to use because his MnM micro is so awful it's often physically painful to watch.

All a zerg had to do to beat that build was like... earlier hydralisks >.>. It didn't change the entire dynamic of TvZ


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80595

Don't argue with me, go argue with Day[9].


That build was way overhyped. Seriously, it only worked when opponents weren't expecting it/hadn't prepared for it. Watch game 5 of the Batoo OSL finals. Even fantasy moved on to other mech builds after that series. I can't believe Day[9] fell for the hype on that.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
January 11 2010 06:26 GMT
#56
On January 11 2010 15:23 dukethegold wrote:
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On January 11 2010 14:56 Mobius wrote:
terran have always been considered the weakest race... which is why terran users consistently kept winning osl titles.. lol. and uhh.. where is fantasy? lol


In the beginning, Terran was the weakest, yeah. Before BW expansion (medic) and patch 1.08, Terran was pretty much on the losing end.

Then came a guy whose ID is Boxer and changed everything.

As for Fantasy, the author already explained he is a very biased person and hates Fantasy's guts.

Who is Boxer?

and right right, sorry only read the first post lol
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joking about boxer
Entusman #51
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 11 2010 06:31 GMT
#57
On January 11 2010 15:26 jalstar wrote:
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On January 11 2010 11:55 dukethegold wrote:
On January 11 2010 11:33 Jayme wrote:
On January 11 2010 10:23 dukethegold wrote:
WTF? Leta is on there? Sea is on there? Really is on there? Where the hell is Fantasy????

You know there is a build named after him and it revolutionized TvZ for two entire seasons, right?

Sure, Fantasy is out of both leagues, but why are Leta and Really on there if he isn't?

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Really recognized Fantasy as the 2nd best Terran during his winner's interview. That means in the Korean community, Fantasy is STILL considered as the 2nd best Terran. Surely this is absolute injustice!


Otherwise, nice writeup.


Learn the meaning of revolutionized.

This implies that it was used (to great effect) for a long period of time when in fact it was a gimmicky build with a GIGANTIC timing window that he had to use because his MnM micro is so awful it's often physically painful to watch.

All a zerg had to do to beat that build was like... earlier hydralisks >.>. It didn't change the entire dynamic of TvZ


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80595

Don't argue with me, go argue with Day[9].


That build was way overhyped. Seriously, it only worked when opponents weren't expecting it/hadn't prepared for it. Watch game 5 of the Batoo OSL finals. Even fantasy moved on to other mech builds after that series. I can't believe Day[9] fell for the hype on that.


It's not just the build though. After the Fantasy build, all the Terrans go mech, albeit not necessarily following the Fantasy Build. And yeah, even Fantasy stopped using Valkyrie soon afterwards, but it didn't change the fact that he popularized Mech v.s. Zerg for two seasons.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
January 11 2010 06:41 GMT
#58
Cheesiest caption ever. But I liked it.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 11 2010 06:49 GMT
#59
On January 11 2010 13:08 hyst.eric.al wrote:
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On January 11 2010 11:42 ArvickHero wrote:
You included Leta but not Fantasy? If you're going to write about the Terran race and its players, include all the good players, not just the ones you like.
i will write about whatever the fuck i please.

and i subtly mentioned boxer, oov, and nada (though nada's reference is pretty subtle).

Then dont get pissed when people inevitably flame you. People, perhaps mistakenly, expect at least a little objectivity in these kinds of posts, so while it is your prerogative to write about the best terrans and blatantly leave out one due to nothing more than personal reasons you should be prepared for or at least expect this type of reaction.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 11 2010 07:06 GMT
#60
The hell does fantasy belong here..his wins havent been that impressive, and just last month he was getting wrecked by freakin killer. Come on seriously fantasy fans..Sea and Really have been stomping people since PL began, fantasy just won a few games. Id put frozean on before fantasy at this point.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 11 2010 09:03 GMT
#61
On January 11 2010 09:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
The Tragic Hero, The Best Terran Nobody Cares About, The Bad Player, and God

This.

Flash is obvious. Sea is obvious. Really has been vouched for by Artosis and others who are actually involved in the Korean scene. Leta? Come on. This guy has only ever played one televised Bo5, which he lost to a supposedly worse player at the time. I thought people valued set performance, and not just flashy Bo1 games?
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
January 11 2010 10:56 GMT
#62
On January 11 2010 18:03 TheYango wrote:
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On January 11 2010 09:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
The Tragic Hero, The Best Terran Nobody Cares About, The Bad Player, and God

This.

Flash is obvious. Sea is obvious. Really has been vouched for by Artosis and others who are actually involved in the Korean scene. Leta? Come on. This guy has only ever played one televised Bo5, which he lost to a supposedly worse player at the time. I thought people valued set performance, and not just flashy Bo1 games?


While I don't think Leta should be on the list, your argument is ridiculously terrible.

You mention "set performance" and then defend Sea (who has never even made an RO8, and thus has never even played in a meaningful BO5) and Really (who has NEVER EVEN MADE A LEAGUE)??
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 11 2010 14:25 GMT
#63
On January 11 2010 09:48 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
The Tragic Hero, The Best Terran Nobody Cares About, The Bad Player, and God


Fakesteve, I want you to write an awesome rant about each one of those, except Sea because we've got plenty of those already because Sea is awesome etc etc.
Remember Violet.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
January 11 2010 15:22 GMT
#64
even if i don't like him, missing fantasy here goes against this writer, was a good read anyway
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6183 Posts
January 11 2010 15:26 GMT
#65
Flash is too good !!!!!

And I do fear how good Really will become soon.
n_n
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 11 2010 19:16 GMT
#66
On January 11 2010 19:56 darktreb wrote:
You mention "set performance" and then defend Sea (who has never even made an RO8, and thus has never even played in a meaningful BO5) and Really (who has NEVER EVEN MADE A LEAGUE)??

1) Er...the fact that Sea has played more televised sets means that, regardless of whether he won them or lost them, he's more likely to have the know-how to handle one. Leta's played one ever, and he demonstrated his completely ignorance of the dynamics of it during that Bo5.

2) As I said, the saving grace for Really is that he's vouched for by those who are far more in touch with the Korean scene than I am, while I have heard no such appraisal of Leta.
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 19:50:42
January 11 2010 19:50 GMT
#67
On January 12 2010 04:16 TheYango wrote:
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On January 11 2010 19:56 darktreb wrote:
You mention "set performance" and then defend Sea (who has never even made an RO8, and thus has never even played in a meaningful BO5) and Really (who has NEVER EVEN MADE A LEAGUE)??

1) Er...the fact that Sea has played more televised sets means that, regardless of whether he won them or lost them, he's more likely to have the know-how to handle one. Leta's played one ever, and he demonstrated his completely ignorance of the dynamics of it during that Bo5.

2) As I said, the saving grace for Really is that he's vouched for by those who are far more in touch with the Korean scene than I am, while I have heard no such appraisal of Leta.
Taking the bo5 to a fifth game against a strong BoX player and the eventual MSL champion is a bad performance?


Besides which, he took a bo3 off of Flash in that tournament, with his cheese in the third set catching Flash totally off-guard. If that doesn't show and understanding of how to play a BoX, I give up.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 20:22:25
January 11 2010 20:21 GMT
#68
Terran fighting! 00:17 = Flash macro



Lim Yo Hwan forever!
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 14 2010 21:16 GMT
#69
shit. this was sexy.
but no fantasy.. > <
cw)minsean(ru
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
January 14 2010 21:27 GMT
#70
On January 12 2010 05:21 Zoler wrote:
Terran fighting! 00:17 = Flash macro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWhrGGrs3Ow



And after 3:00 Fantasy vs Calm micro
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
January 21 2010 02:18 GMT
#71
grrr where were you last year during grand finals between Oz and SKT1?

Fantasy should be up there!!
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