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Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
January 08 2010 17:55 GMT
#61
Go Movie, slay the metal monster and become the final dragon!

Also Kwanro lol, gotta love that guy :D
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 18:04:41
January 08 2010 18:00 GMT
#62
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him. If Jaedong, Calm, and Zero couldn't beat Flash, Kwanro sure as hell isn't.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 08 2010 18:09 GMT
#63
On January 09 2010 03:00 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him, and I put Jaedong, Calm, Effort, and Shine above him.


Well Kwanro and Jaedong/Calm/Effort are not really comparable.

Calm is a middle game player, Jaedong/Effort late game (yes, Jaedong is more of a management player now). Shine is an aggressive player, yes.

Kwanro while fully capable of playing late game ZvT (unlike Shine who cant play any late game whatsoever) is unpredictable. Hes the type of player who could just change from three hatch muta into three hatch lings.

And IF Kwanro finds an all-in strategy to Flash's one rax expand Flash COULD lose the series. If anyone can beat Flash early game its Kwanro. But I highly doubt it, if he were on CJ sure! XD
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
January 08 2010 18:11 GMT
#64
omfg so good :D
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 18:13:18
January 08 2010 18:11 GMT
#65
On January 09 2010 03:00 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him. If Jaedong, Calm, and Zero couldn't beat Flash, Kwanro sure as hell isn't.



I actually think Flash will have a hard time playing against kwanro provided that he doesn't change his play style. Flash relies a lot on his defensive skills to establish a strong economic advantage, much like Oov used to do back in the days. This is exemplified by his greedy FE openings against JD/Calm/Zero (minus the rush on HBR). Kwanro is known for his aggressive pre-muta early game (read: all-ins), and this is a style that is similar to JulyZerg (and we all know how the series between July and oov went).
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 18:15:52
January 08 2010 18:14 GMT
#66
On January 09 2010 03:11 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 03:00 FireGuyX wrote:
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him. If Jaedong, Calm, and Zero couldn't beat Flash, Kwanro sure as hell isn't.



I actually think Flash will have a hard time playing against kwanro provided that he doesn't change his play style. Flash relies a lot on his defensive skills to establish a strong economic advantage, much like Oov used to do back in the days. This is exemplified by his greedy FE openings against JD/Calm/Zero (minus the rush on HBR). Kwanro is known for his aggressive pre-muta early game (read: all-ins), and this is a style that is similar to JulyZerg (and we all know how the series between July and oov went).

I think Flash will choose to go 2 rax CC over 1 rax CC in his series against Kwanro. Either that or 1 rax cc with very early simcity at the natural.

Flash's game vs Calm on El Nino was close (talking about turret to muta timing), if Kwanro was playing at that moment, Flash may just have lost there.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 08 2010 18:15 GMT
#67
On January 09 2010 03:09 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 03:00 FireGuyX wrote:
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him, and I put Jaedong, Calm, Effort, and Shine above him.


Well Kwanro and Jaedong/Calm/Effort are not really comparable.

Calm is a middle game player, Jaedong/Effort late game (yes, Jaedong is more of a management player now). Shine is an aggressive player, yes.

Kwanro while fully capable of playing late game ZvT (unlike Shine who cant play any late game whatsoever) is unpredictable. Hes the type of player who could just change from three hatch muta into three hatch lings.

And IF Kwanro finds an all-in strategy to Flash's one rax expand Flash COULD lose the series. If anyone can beat Flash early game its Kwanro. But I highly doubt it, if he were on CJ sure! XD


I agree.

I was pretty impressive with Calm's late game for his third game in the series against Flash. Kwanro's late game seemed solid, but he was up against light, who is not on par with Flash. If the game goes to late game, I am still certain that Flash will come on top (unless entered with a severe disadvantage).
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
kiendudu
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands273 Posts
January 08 2010 18:16 GMT
#68
On January 09 2010 03:11 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 03:00 FireGuyX wrote:
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him. If Jaedong, Calm, and Zero couldn't beat Flash, Kwanro sure as hell isn't.



I actually think Flash will have a hard time playing against kwanro provided that he doesn't change his play style. Flash relies a lot on his defensive skills to establish a strong economic advantage, much like Oov used to do back in the days. This is exemplified by his greedy FE openings against JD/Calm/Zero (minus the rush on HBR). Kwanro is known for his aggressive pre-muta early game (read: all-ins), and this is a style that is similar to JulyZerg (and we all know how the series between July and oov went).


well said, but I dont know the result of the series between July and Oov ? Ovv lost 3-0 ?
^^
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 08 2010 18:18 GMT
#69
On January 09 2010 03:14 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 03:11 Cambium wrote:
On January 09 2010 03:00 FireGuyX wrote:
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him. If Jaedong, Calm, and Zero couldn't beat Flash, Kwanro sure as hell isn't.



I actually think Flash will have a hard time playing against kwanro provided that he doesn't change his play style. Flash relies a lot on his defensive skills to establish a strong economic advantage, much like Oov used to do back in the days. This is exemplified by his greedy FE openings against JD/Calm/Zero (minus the rush on HBR). Kwanro is known for his aggressive pre-muta early game (read: all-ins), and this is a style that is similar to JulyZerg (and we all know how the series between July and oov went).

I think Flash will choose to go 2 rax CC over 1 rax CC in his series against Kwanro. Either that or 1 rax cc with very early simcity at the natural.

Flash's game vs Calm on El Nino was close (talking about turret to muta timing), if Kwanro was playing at that moment, Flash may just have lost there.


I think Flash would've probably lost most of his games against kwanro with the openings he did against calm. He was building the CC after 2 marines iirc. However, I'd like to think that Flash is a smart adaptive player, and he chose to build the CC after scouting calm's build.

I just hope Flash reads Kwanro correctly like Stork did. That game was the most one-sided rape PvZ I've seen in a long long time.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 08 2010 18:20 GMT
#70
On January 09 2010 03:16 kiendudu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 03:11 Cambium wrote:
On January 09 2010 03:00 FireGuyX wrote:
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him. If Jaedong, Calm, and Zero couldn't beat Flash, Kwanro sure as hell isn't.



I actually think Flash will have a hard time playing against kwanro provided that he doesn't change his play style. Flash relies a lot on his defensive skills to establish a strong economic advantage, much like Oov used to do back in the days. This is exemplified by his greedy FE openings against JD/Calm/Zero (minus the rush on HBR). Kwanro is known for his aggressive pre-muta early game (read: all-ins), and this is a style that is similar to JulyZerg (and we all know how the series between July and oov went).


well said, but I dont know the result of the series between July and Oov ? Ovv lost 3-0 ?


Gillette OSL semis

July 3-2 Oov, not as impressive as a 3-0 or 3-1 on paper, but given how dominating oov was at the time, it was a huge upset.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 08 2010 18:31 GMT
#71
I sooo damn love that tricky Movie's face and his trademark constant smirk.
SKT1!
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
January 08 2010 18:34 GMT
#72
On January 09 2010 03:20 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 03:16 kiendudu wrote:
On January 09 2010 03:11 Cambium wrote:
On January 09 2010 03:00 FireGuyX wrote:
On January 09 2010 00:13 Atrioc wrote:
kwanro is like the smartest sneakiest motherfucker in progaming

if you watched a couple kwanro games and a couple effort games you would never think it was Kwanro who was consistently succeeding in individual leagues (MSL finalist, MSL semis, OSL Ro16 x2), and was 9-1 in his last 10.

but kwanro is smart and has smart builds and outside of the game trickery like this to make up for his lack of ability.

i love it



He's getting rolled over by Flash no matter what he does. He's a top zerg, but Stork doesn't think highly of him. If Jaedong, Calm, and Zero couldn't beat Flash, Kwanro sure as hell isn't.



I actually think Flash will have a hard time playing against kwanro provided that he doesn't change his play style. Flash relies a lot on his defensive skills to establish a strong economic advantage, much like Oov used to do back in the days. This is exemplified by his greedy FE openings against JD/Calm/Zero (minus the rush on HBR). Kwanro is known for his aggressive pre-muta early game (read: all-ins), and this is a style that is similar to JulyZerg (and we all know how the series between July and oov went).


well said, but I dont know the result of the series between July and Oov ? Ovv lost 3-0 ?


Gillette OSL semis

July 3-2 Oov, not as impressive as a 3-0 or 3-1 on paper, but given how dominating oov was at the time, it was a huge upset.


Yeah, he hadn't lost to any Zerg at all since his proper entrance to the scene at that point, and was on a 27-0 streak. So July was the first Zerg to ever beat him, and did so in a Bo5 of all things. That's according to TLPD at least, I've heard that he was actually 27-3, but still, his dominance over Zerg back then was equal to or greater than Flashes dominance of Zergs today.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
January 08 2010 18:38 GMT
#73
Kwanro? Beating FLASH? In a BEST OF FIVE? I can't believe this is even being debated lmao.

Also to whoever compared Kwanro with July...don't...Kwanro's well established as a player and even if he has potential for monumental improvement, it sure as hell won't happen overnight right now...also wtf...Flash already beat Kwanro with a simple timing attack like 4 weeks ago
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
January 08 2010 18:39 GMT
#74
Tx for the translation. Go Movie! Immortality is yours, take it.
觀過斯知仁矣.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
January 08 2010 18:44 GMT
#75
I actually admire Kwanro's actions! It's like he is so dedicated to destroying the tyrant Terran, ruler of all the Universe that he's willing to work with the Protoss to try and take him down.

Flash is amazing... I can't see Movie beating him but he'll put up a greater fight than Shine could have, even though I thought for sure Shine would beat Movie.
Retvrn to Forvms
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
January 08 2010 18:51 GMT
#76
uh, movies vT winrate is less than 50%, i doubt flash would have to practice at all for vP
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 08 2010 18:52 GMT
#77
On January 08 2010 23:12 konadora wrote:
- Any final words?
▲ I want to thank my teammates who helped me with practice. Before I came here today, I practiced with (Z)Kwanro a lot, and I think that helped me greatly. Kwanro told me I have to win today so that Flash will have a harder time preparing for both TvZ and TvP. I think that was why he helped me with practice so hard. In the end, it worked out well.

Source: Fomos


lmfao kwanro....
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 08 2010 18:54 GMT
#78
On January 08 2010 23:12 konadora wrote:

- Any final words?
▲ I want to thank my teammates who helped me with practice. Before I came here today, I practiced with (Z)Kwanro a lot, and I think that helped me greatly. Kwanro told me I have to win today so that Flash will have a harder time preparing for both TvZ and TvP. I think that was why he helped me with practice so hard. In the end, it worked out well.

Haha that's pretty lol-worthy
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 08 2010 18:56 GMT
#79
On January 09 2010 03:38 SubtleArt wrote:
Kwanro? Beating FLASH? In a BEST OF FIVE? I can't believe this is even being debated lmao.

Also to whoever compared Kwanro with July...don't...Kwanro's well established as a player and even if he has potential for monumental improvement, it sure as hell won't happen overnight right now...also wtf...Flash already beat Kwanro with a simple timing attack like 4 weeks ago

I would want Kwanro to win just to shut your cocky ass mouth

And this is even though I want Flash to win
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
January 08 2010 18:56 GMT
#80
God I remember Tasteless dizzing Movie's name in GomTV... Who's laughing now!? GO Movie, even if I am a FlaSh fan you're still a baller to the core, man.
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