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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8067 Posts
October 22 2009 04:55 GMT
#41
Tough matches ahead for KT!

And Firefist's first opponent being Skyhigh! Eek. More chances for the team to show what they're made of I guess.

And Boxer!
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
October 22 2009 04:57 GMT
#42
Poor (Z)Killer has to play (T)BoxeR and (Z)Luxury
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 22 2009 05:00 GMT
#43
Oh goddamn Hyuk got the short end of the stick in Lineups this week.. ZvZ against Jaedong and Effort :l best of luck to him. he'll need it
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 22 2009 05:02 GMT
#44
Boxer! YAY! I have him on my Fantasy team (stupid choice of course, but you gotta follow your heart). :D

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
October 22 2009 05:07 GMT
#45
BOXER!!!!!!!!!
SAVIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cool upcoming week ~
its me
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
October 22 2009 05:17 GMT
#46
Damn, I was hoping for a Flash vs Jaedong. Maybe it'll go to ace.

KT isn't sending out fOrGG, so I think they have their next two matches in the bag.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
October 22 2009 05:18 GMT
#47
Savior! Boxer! YellOw!!!!!!

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TranslatorBaa!
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
October 22 2009 05:20 GMT
#48
Suuuuuuper excited for KT vs CJ thats going to be an awesome match. lb cj though!!!
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 22 2009 05:21 GMT
#49
God i hope savior atleast puts up a great fight, flash is really really damn scary with his bio right now...
sAviOr...
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
October 22 2009 05:22 GMT
#50
this is like christmas
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
October 22 2009 05:34 GMT
#51
On October 22 2009 13:15 illu wrote:
Boxer vs Killer... well, I am not convinced that Killer is a good player, so I will say that game has some potential.

Last time they met boxer 2-0'ed him with valks and nukes ^^ (with mech opening at neither)

google boxer vs baxter too see the series.
In the woods, there lurks..
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 22 2009 05:37 GMT
#52
lol I like how the emperor is bolded



Thanks for the lineups
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 05:50:11
October 22 2009 05:49 GMT
#53
On October 22 2009 13:07 RainmanMP wrote:
SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung OZ(on MBC)
(Z)Hyuk<Heartbreak Ridge>(Z)Jaedong
(T)The Emperor<Tornado>(Z)Killer
(P)Bisu<Match Point>(P)PerfectMan
(T)fantasy<Moon Glaive>(T)Lomo
Closer:<Fighting Spirit>


Looks like the Oz coach outsmarted T1 coach. T1 bet that Jaedong will probably be playing in the 3rd set or maybe even 4th set, hence they put their strongest players Bisu and Fantasy on there. Because usually stronger players are put on 3rd match to tilt the tide. Its advantageous for Jaedong to play someone other than Bisu/Fantasy because it is considered 1 guaranteed win. If they have that 1 win, they only need 1 other win from their other 3 players to bring it to an ace match. Thats why I think Oz coach put JD in 1st match because he anticipated that they would try to snipe JD using Bisu in 3rd match. Because Bisu and JD is almost always 50/50 chance it was too risky for a team like Oz that has little depth.

Anyway my predictions
Hyuk < Jaedong
Boxer < Killer
Bisu > Perfectman
Fantasy > Lomo
Ace Bisu/Fantasy vs. Jaedong
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 06:17:22
October 22 2009 06:11 GMT
#54
On October 22 2009 14:49 AzureEye wrote:
Looks like the Oz coach outsmarted T1 coach. T1 bet that Jaedong will probably be playing in the 3rd set or maybe even 4th set, hence they put their strongest players Bisu and Fantasy on there. Because usually stronger players are put on 3rd match to tilt the tide. Its advantageous for Jaedong to play someone other than Bisu/Fantasy because it is considered 1 guaranteed win. If they have that 1 win, they only need 1 other win from their other 3 players to bring it to an ace match. Thats why I think Oz coach put JD in 1st match because he anticipated that they would try to snipe JD using Bisu in 3rd match. Because Bisu and JD is almost always 50/50 chance it was too risky for a team like Oz that has little depth.

I doubt it. SKT obviously did their lineup by maps first, and by player second. They're not looking to maximize the chance that they'll get one of their aces against Jaedong, because getting Bisu v Jaedong on a bad PvZ map is just throwing away a potential win from Bisu. Putting Bisu on Heartbreak, Tornado, or Moon Glaive gets you a Bisu v Jaedong where Bisu starts on the back foot AT BEST. At worst, he gets sniped by Killer or GGaemo. And given how PvZ on Match Point works out, it's obvious that Oz won't play Jaedong on Match Point--why play him there when that's the only map that SKT could conceivably put Bisu on?

As far as Fantasy goes, experience shows his chance of winning is highest in his 1st game of the night. Needing to prepare twice against Jaedong means he's much less likely to win both, whereas he can prepare something to snipe Jaedong if he only needs to play him in 1 game.

There's no "outsmarting" being done here IMO. Coach Cho made smart picks, but there's not much that T1 could have done to counter that, because most other possible arrangements would lead to a worse situation. This way, Bisu and Fantasy are pretty certain to win their games, and neither Hyuk's nor Boxer's games are throwaways. Hyuk certainly has a legitimate chance against Jaedong, and Boxer has to have something prepared if SKT isn't playing Canata or Mong in that spot.
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 06:16:54
October 22 2009 06:15 GMT
#55
SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung OZ
(Z)Hyuk <Heartbreak Ridge> (Z)Jaedong
(T)BoxeR <Tornado> (Z)Killer
(P)Bisu <Match Point> (P)PerfectMan
(T)fantasy <Moon Glaive> (T)Lomo
Closer:<Fighting Spirit>

(T)BoxeR is going to outplay (Z)Killer due to experience.
(P)Bisu and (T)fantasy SHOULD win, but can't guarentee anything.
If it goes to Ace Match, like Azure says, (P)Bisu/(T)fantasy vs (Z)Jaedong
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Oedi
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada265 Posts
October 22 2009 06:27 GMT
#56
As an Oz fan for life I will accept the following outcomes

SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung OZ
(Z)Hyuk <Heartbreak Ridge> (Z)Jaedong
(T)BoxeR <Tornado> (Z)Killer
(P)Bisu <Match Point> (P)PerfectMan
(T)fantasy <Moon Glaive> (T)Lomo
Closer:<Fighting Spirit>

or

SK Telecom T1 vs Hwaseung OZ
(Z)Hyuk <Heartbreak Ridge> (Z)Jaedong
(T)BoxeR <Tornado> (Z)Killer
(P)Bisu <Match Point> (P)PerfectMan
(T)fantasy <Moon Glaive> (T)Lomo
(T)BoxeR<Fighting Spirit>Anyone except Jaedong(real possibility)
siv00
Profile Joined September 2009
261 Posts
October 22 2009 06:37 GMT
#57
Hopefully Jaedong doesn't lose to Hyuk in too embarrassing of a fashion this time.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
October 22 2009 06:52 GMT
#58
On October 22 2009 15:37 siv00 wrote:
Hopefully Jaedong doesn't lose to Hyuk in too embarrassing of a fashion this time.

Hope it happens.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 22 2009 06:54 GMT
#59
Ace vs Samsung has no mirrors :O!
sAviOr...
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 08:01:44
October 22 2009 07:59 GMT
#60
So many interesting games this week!


(T)Leta<Tornado>(Z)ZerO
Zero's playstyle is so cool. I wait for this game.

(P)Stats<Match Point>(P)Movie
These Protoss both advanced to MSL Ro32 and they could be next Protoss generation

(T)Flash<Tornado>(Z)sAviOr
eStars rematch. Now it should be serious game

(Z)Luxury<Outsider SE>(Z)EffOrt
Zerg dogfight, i like it

(Z)Hyuk<Heartbreak Ridge>(Z)Jaedong
Hyuk won Jaedong recently. This game will solve what it was. Skill or Fluke.

(T)The Emperor<Tornado>(Z)Killer
Boxer playing is always what fans want

(P)Bisu<Match Point>(P)PerfectMan
Finally, we can understand who is stronger. Bisu or PerfectMan!!!!!! :D

(Z)GoRush<Outsider SE>(P)Stork
Macro uber PvZ rematch?

(P)Kal<Heartbreak Ridge>(Z)Crazy-Hydra
Lol, they play in MSL too. Coincidence?

(P)Violet<Match Point>(P)BackHo
Another test for Violet, BackHo is so unpredictable

I want to see this whole:
SK Telecom T1 vs CJ Entus(on MBC)
(P)BeSt<Outsider SE>(Z)Hydra
(Z)Hyuk<Moon Glaive>(Z)EffOrt
(P)Bisu<Heartbreak Ridge>(P)Snow
(T)fantasy<Fighting Spirit>(T)sKyHigh
Closer:<Tornado>
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