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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
October 21 2009 14:19 GMT
#21
On October 21 2009 23:15 Kyuki wrote:
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On October 21 2009 22:59 Magic84 wrote:
On October 21 2009 22:51 MisteR wrote:
On October 21 2009 22:26 Magic84 wrote:
- You and Jangbi’s performance really effects your team
▲ Last season Jangbi started performing worse as we reached closer to the end, but it wasn’t an issue of skill. I think we started performing worse because we lost the will to win. I think for our team to get higher in the ranking is for me to perform much better. Good news is, my mentality is back and I feel like I returned to my 2007 self.

It seems to me that Khan and Woongjin have incredible coaching problems and wasting talent. The teams need a male authority the young guys will respect, someone who can spark and encourage young guys, someone to admire greatly, good training regime, etc.


... Why male?

Should i explain the obvious? Why do you think all the ice hockey coaches are male? Even if not the head coach, but race specific coaches, anybody, the guys seem lost and disinterested on these teams.

This is extremly stupid

I'm sure it's not. Khan used to be powerful, but all the motivation they had back then, they lost it completely, it's obvious. It's nobody else's problem, but coaches'.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 14:27:20
October 21 2009 14:23 GMT
#22
On October 21 2009 22:59 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 22:51 MisteR wrote:
On October 21 2009 22:26 Magic84 wrote:
- You and Jangbi’s performance really effects your team
▲ Last season Jangbi started performing worse as we reached closer to the end, but it wasn’t an issue of skill. I think we started performing worse because we lost the will to win. I think for our team to get higher in the ranking is for me to perform much better. Good news is, my mentality is back and I feel like I returned to my 2007 self.

It seems to me that Khan and Woongjin have incredible coaching problems and wasting talent. The teams need a male authority the young guys will respect, someone who can spark and encourage young guys, someone to admire greatly, good training regime, etc.


... Why male?

Should i explain the obvious? Why do you think all the ice hockey coaches are male? Even if not the head coach, but race specific coaches, anybody, the guys seem lost and disinterested on these teams.


So disinterested they won a PL title and got two 2nd place finishes? Indeed, January really sucks as a coach.

On October 21 2009 23:08 Camlito wrote:
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On October 21 2009 22:44 baubo wrote:
On October 21 2009 22:29 NovaTheFeared wrote:
- Swarm Season: Zerg is really strong now
▲ As I started to practice a lot more, I realized rather than Map Imbalance the skill level of an average zerg player increased than the average protoss player. I think protoss players should practice much much harder to deal with this issue.


Please tell me this will stop the ZvP imba!!! posts for at least a day or 2.


Stork is notorious for not being picky about maps though. The guy won't even say Tears of the Moon is unplayable for protoss... only to proceed to get owned hard in every game he played on it.


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=59&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=195&from_year=2004&from_month=9&from_day=2&to_year=2009&to_month=10&to_day=21&action=Update

Such noob opponents, how could stork even lose..


I'm not sure about your point. Stork said TOTM was playable right before he played July, only to go for a 3-gate speedlot rush, which was timed so precisely and so extreme he had to kill his own probe to free up psi.

My point is that Stork tends to take things in stride, and not make excuses. But Stork consistently goes for rush style when the maps aren't favorable. And more economy based plays on favorable or balanced maps.
Meh
NO MY LIQUIBET
Profile Joined May 2009
United States294 Posts
October 21 2009 14:34 GMT
#23
- This is your 13th consecutive appearance in the RO16 OSL
▲ I’ve been thinking about this for a while since prelims and last season. Unfortunately, I have no records unlike other players so I want to make “Most Consecutive Appearance in RO16 OSL” record so I can leave my name in the history books.

Does anyone know what the currect record is?
NO MY LIQUIBET
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 14:48:21
October 21 2009 14:44 GMT
#24
samsung's one of the few teams that actually does their lineups strategically, thanks to good planning. you kidding me? think you're the first to stick your nose up and doubt a woman? it's no coincidence samsung's the got the only female head coach in the industry, and they've been highly successful. read the wall: tough woman. didn't even used to wear makeup.

and i don't even know why you named woongjin. they got a male coach
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p53
Profile Joined September 2009
297 Posts
October 21 2009 14:49 GMT
#25
"To be honest, I wish all the protoss players disqualify, except me. I wish I can win the “The Legend of the Fall” title against an all-zerg OSL."

GO GET 'EM STORK
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
October 21 2009 14:54 GMT
#26
- You look a lot different
▲ I changed my lifestyle a bit. Instead of a lazy man, I decided to live more like a diligent and hard working man. As important as gaming is, I started to realize a healthy life pattern will also give me better results. Not to mention, the better I take care of myself the more my fans will be pleased, which is why I burned some weight. I wish I can show a much better and improved self until my last days as a progamer.


This means "I HAVE A GF"
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13079 Posts
October 21 2009 14:54 GMT
#27
Stork forever best toss of all time !!!!!.

Bisu fans can argue about this but he is more consitent even if Bisu skill is maybe for like 0.1 better but thats because Stork got lower apm but he compensate with better brain power

/end fanboism
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 15:10:32
October 21 2009 15:08 GMT
#28
So inspiring interview but also sad. Looks like Stork gets older and become a player that doesn't give a shit (like Boxer and others...)
But, if he want to win this OSL by destroying Zergs this is so inspiring to see this OSL
I already imagine an intro with Stork, the Protoss who want to destroy the Swarm
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 21 2009 15:18 GMT
#29
On October 21 2009 22:12 MrHoon wrote:
To be honest, I wish all the protoss players disqualify, except me.

Stork is so honest. :D Funny guy.

Thanks for translating!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
October 21 2009 15:45 GMT
#30
On October 21 2009 23:16 Musoeun wrote:
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On October 21 2009 22:26 Magic84 wrote:
It seems to me that Khan and Woongjin have incredible coaching problems and wasting talent. The teams need a male authority the young guys will respect, someone who can spark and encourage young guys, someone to admire greatly, good training regime, etc.


I do admit: KHAN is looking bad right now (and really for the last 6-8 months). Yes, I'm about 80% sure that a lot of it has to do with coaching

But it's too early to hit the panic button: Considering the results January's gotten overall, I wouldn't try to tear apart KHAN's coaches too fast. Whether KHAN gets back to form really depends on how long and how well she adjusts to new RL situations - meaning she's married now. A couple new solid players wouldn't hurt either, but hey.

(As for Woongjin, they've been kind of sucky for a long time, but I have no idea of their coaching situation.)

It's been a bit long. Once a khan player hit the slump, he failed to recover and the whole positive working atmosphere crumbled it seems.

I'm not sure if they should fire January, but they do need help getting the guys out of slump and overall terrible situation, January isn't the only person in Khan organization. They need a couple of guys to kick their ass, who were the young guys themselves and know how to make a right impression.

With Woongjin you can almost feel how the talent starves on this team currently. They would win some games and look great, then would hit rock bottom in both results and performance, that's not a sign of proper discipline.
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
October 21 2009 15:55 GMT
#31
On October 21 2009 23:44 .risingdragoon wrote:
samsung's one of the few teams that actually does their lineups strategically, thanks to good planning. you kidding me? think you're the first to stick your nose up and doubt a woman? it's no coincidence samsung's the got the only female head coach in the industry, and they've been highly successful. read the wall: tough woman. didn't even used to wear makeup.

and i don't even know why you named woongjin. they got a male coach


Doing lineups strategically and motivating players are two different things. January is undoubtedly very capable on the strategic side of things, but there is a motivation issue here. This has nothing to do with her sex or anything, but often when a team has a coach for a long time players stagnate, and often a solution to this is a change of coaching staff. I know this is common practice in the NHL when teams under perform or slump. Look at how much harder Torts managed to push the Rangers last year during the playoffs.

I think January has done a brilliant job, but after a point even the best coaches can't do anything and to me it looks like Khan has reached that point.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
October 21 2009 16:39 GMT
#32
During summer 2008 Lecaf went into a total tailspin and didn't even make the proleague playoffs because they lost so many games at the end of the season. This was the same time that their head coach got married and went on a honeymoon.

I'm fairly sure the current Samsung slump has similar origins and that Samsung will be strong again in the near future.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
October 21 2009 16:45 GMT
#33
You and Jangbi’s performance really effects your team

I thin it's "affects"
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 21 2009 17:00 GMT
#34
On October 22 2009 01:45 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
You and Jangbi’s performance really effects your team

I thin it's "affects"

I thin so too!
I'll get it fixed
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RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
October 21 2009 17:03 GMT
#35
On October 21 2009 22:59 Magic84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 22:51 MisteR wrote:
On October 21 2009 22:26 Magic84 wrote:
- You and Jangbi’s performance really effects your team
▲ Last season Jangbi started performing worse as we reached closer to the end, but it wasn’t an issue of skill. I think we started performing worse because we lost the will to win. I think for our team to get higher in the ranking is for me to perform much better. Good news is, my mentality is back and I feel like I returned to my 2007 self.

It seems to me that Khan and Woongjin have incredible coaching problems and wasting talent. The teams need a male authority the young guys will respect, someone who can spark and encourage young guys, someone to admire greatly, good training regime, etc.


... Why male?

Should i explain the obvious? Why do you think all the ice hockey coaches are male? Even if not the head coach, but race specific coaches, anybody, the guys seem lost and disinterested on these teams.

Just for your info, January is one of the best coaches of all PL, and one of the main reasons why Samsung got from the sucking waiter-uniform team to one of the most feared ones, with all home-breed players that she had the eye to recognize the talent and the leadership to help them develop their talent.

I won't tag your comment as sexist and chauvanistic because it's true that starcraft is a widely male-dominated world, but it doesn't mean a woman can't be a better coach than most of her male colleagues.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 21 2009 17:33 GMT
#36
man stork is awesome. he never bitches about maps, and just plays it out.

looking good for storky to go far this season!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 19:13:34
October 21 2009 19:10 GMT
#37
On October 21 2009 22:29 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Swarm Season: Zerg is really strong now
▲ As I started to practice a lot more, I realized rather than Map Imbalance the skill level of an average zerg player increased than the average protoss player. I think protoss players should practice much much harder to deal with this issue.


Please tell me this will stop the ZvP imba!!! posts for at least a day or 2.

We already established that it's an imbalance, just not in the races themselves.

People like you are the ones that keep flaming threads, because you don't even bother reading what they're trying to say.

On October 22 2009 02:33 dekuschrub wrote:
man stork is awesome. he never bitches about maps, and just plays it out.

looking good for storky to go far this season!

No one bitches about maps.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
October 21 2009 19:39 GMT
#38
On October 22 2009 04:10 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 22:29 NovaTheFeared wrote:
- Swarm Season: Zerg is really strong now
▲ As I started to practice a lot more, I realized rather than Map Imbalance the skill level of an average zerg player increased than the average protoss player. I think protoss players should practice much much harder to deal with this issue.


Please tell me this will stop the ZvP imba!!! posts for at least a day or 2.

We already established that it's an imbalance, just not in the races themselves.

People like you are the ones that keep flaming threads, because you don't even bother reading what they're trying to say.

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 02:33 dekuschrub wrote:
man stork is awesome. he never bitches about maps, and just plays it out.

looking good for storky to go far this season!

No one bitches about maps.


You ever heard of this guy called Bisu?
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 22 2009 01:09 GMT
#39
On October 21 2009 22:38 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 22:28 MrHoon wrote:
On October 21 2009 22:24 NO MY LIQUIBET wrote:
Yeah Stork! Finally has the motivation to win again!

Anyone else thinks he looks a bit like the pringle man (sans mustache) in that picture?

Also, I'm not sure if "To be honest, I wish all the protoss players disqualify, except me. I wish I can win the “The Legend of the Fall” title against an all-zerg OSL," is him being cocky, or him rising to occasion against the swarm, but its a pretty bold statement either way. This is why I think Stork is one of the most interesting progamers; his interviews are never boring or generic and he actually tells you what he thinks.

I translated that last because I just sat there for 10 minutes looking at that statement spacing out lol

But I can assure you it wasn't him being cocky, rather he just dreams of a scenario like this


He's not dreaming, he's DARING enough to take on his weakest match-up exclusively at the height of swarm season. The man has balls the size of Aiur.


GO STORK
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
October 22 2009 01:30 GMT
#40
good to see one of my favorites Toss Fighting and with good motivation
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