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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
October 19 2009 04:06 GMT
#61
On October 19 2009 10:16 IdrA wrote:
i think its more likely the infamous european-soggy-vagina syndrome


well contributed sir.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
October 19 2009 04:56 GMT
#62
On October 18 2009 21:35 RaGe wrote:
Uhm, I don't wanna break down on a good initiative but..

Aren't you a working man? Why should other people pay for your trip, when you'll be the one to enjoy it and cash the money if you win something?

500 bucks sounds like a reasonable amount to pay for yourself so you can enjoy a nice vacation in Korea with a lot of your friends.

It's not like you'd really be "representing the USA" with rekrul, inc and IdrA going.


Poland had a representative, no? And not for nothing, but I doubt that Yayba and Draco only play SC ever. I don't know anyone at this point in time who doesn't even work part-time. If the community raised nearly $6,000 for them, why is it unreasonable to ask for $500 to benefit a working father who also has this opportunity to play on the international stage? I'm sure Yayba and Draco will also be enjoying the trip to Chengdu with friends of theirs in the BW scene, and they will be able to cash in if they win anything.

In other words, I fail to see the difference here.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 05:28:47
October 19 2009 05:28 GMT
#63
On October 19 2009 10:41 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 09:37 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 19 2009 08:55 Xeris wrote:
i don't get w hat's so different about this than about polish people trying to raise funds to send polish players to an event?

Well, I don't know the details of the situation, so I may be wrong, but I'll take a crack at this...

WCG is recognized as an international tournament where you represent your country, so donating to send someone as your representative is different than sponsoring a random USA player to play in an individual tournament IEF.

edit: To be clear, I'm not saying you're doing the wrong thing here, just guessing at why people see it differently. Not sure if TL should have an official policy about this donation stuff.


Lets make one!

Mani is taking 0,5% of every transfer now
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Tenryu
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States565 Posts
October 19 2009 06:24 GMT
#64
Haha people bitching about the price of $500 when they contributed over $6000 for 2 players.. so about $3000 for 1 player and now they bitch about $500 for 1 player. Anyways..
http://myanimelist.net/profile/Understar
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
October 19 2009 07:05 GMT
#65
I'll be sending 100 dollars when I get home tonight since Louder has played the FPVODs
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
October 19 2009 07:32 GMT
#66
Hey guys, hold off on the donations for now, apparently there is an issue with EG not liking him taking donations.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 08:08:05
October 19 2009 08:07 GMT
#67
On October 19 2009 16:32 HnR)Insane wrote:
Hey guys, hold off on the donations for now, apparently there is an issue with EG not liking him taking donations.


dramaz!!
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
October 19 2009 08:27 GMT
#68
On October 19 2009 16:05 HnR)Insane wrote:
I'll be sending 100 dollars when I get home tonight since Louder has played the FPVODs


Oh do share, I wanna see the bad things he did to surfer !
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
October 19 2009 08:53 GMT
#69
I didn't get home until 1:50 AM so I'm not watching them yet. Will watch them tomorrow after work as a treat

http://livestream.com/louder - go to on demand. Louder's officially my hero for doing this so quickly, so I will be donating the money to the community event instead since he's not allowed to accept donations apparently.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
October 19 2009 13:10 GMT
#70
Ya - I can confirm... dropping a drama bomb:

So Artosis said he needs to confirm the player list for IEF by today, and that Louder needed to buy his ticket, so we assumed we'd get up to the $500, and after talking to EG apparently they literally wouldn't let him go if he got any donations. On top of that they said if he accepted donations to go to IEF they wouldn't pay for his flight to China.

All in all, I guess EG shafted him T__T;.

I need to think about what to do now.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
October 19 2009 13:11 GMT
#71
And so why will they not let him go if he gets donations?

I guess this is why we need to think these things through a little more.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
October 19 2009 13:15 GMT
#72
On October 19 2009 22:11 Manifesto7 wrote:
And so why will they not let him go if he gets donations?

I guess this is why we need to think these things through a little more.


i imagine that this is shining bad press for EG, not being able to cover sufficient costs for their players to do shit
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
October 19 2009 13:19 GMT
#73
cant we just give him the money and lie !!? I mean why does EG need to know where the 500 came from, its stupid as fuck what they are doing.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
October 19 2009 13:34 GMT
#74
On October 19 2009 22:19 besiger wrote:
cant we just give him the money and lie !!? I mean why does EG need to know where the 500 came from, its stupid as fuck what they are doing.

If we raised the money to send Louder, you could interpret it as EG being the villains that are not supporting their players thus forcing the community to do so for them. And do you seriously think that EG are blind enough not to notice what was going on in case we lied?
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
October 19 2009 13:39 GMT
#75
On October 19 2009 22:15 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 22:11 Manifesto7 wrote:
And so why will they not let him go if he gets donations?

I guess this is why we need to think these things through a little more.


i imagine that this is shining bad press for EG, not being able to cover sufficient costs for their players to do shit

Isn't that the case regardless of whether or not he takes the donations?
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Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
October 19 2009 16:18 GMT
#76
On October 19 2009 22:15 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 22:11 Manifesto7 wrote:
And so why will they not let him go if he gets donations?

I guess this is why we need to think these things through a little more.


i imagine that this is shining bad press for EG, not being able to cover sufficient costs for their players to do shit


I will say here what I said to EG - nobody thinks teams have unlimited budgets. In fact, it's pretty rare for teams outside Korea to give money to SC players at all, in general. Rather than be thrilled that the community is willing to support players, the decision is based on the notion that this is equivalent to EG begging for money. I don't think that's accurate and I don't think most people would. But it's the team's decision and I'll respect it.

To be clear I was given no ultimatum about China. I was simply given the impression that if I accepted these donations and used them for IEF there would be consequences.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 17:14:29
October 19 2009 17:08 GMT
#77
On October 19 2009 22:34 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 22:19 besiger wrote:
cant we just give him the money and lie !!? I mean why does EG need to know where the 500 came from, its stupid as fuck what they are doing.

If we raised the money to send Louder, you could interpret it as EG being the villains that are not supporting their players thus forcing the community to do so for them. And do you seriously think that EG are blind enough not to notice what was going on in case we lied?


im just saying, if Louder said he came up with the money to go somehow, borrowed it from someone or anything, how would they know we gave it.
Im not saying EG are the villains, quite frankly i dont see what they are playing at, they are already sending him to wcg, and im sure everyone understands that they cant cover every event out there, how is this putting them in a bad light? In my eyes not letting him go is worse publicity than not being able to send him themselves, these days its rare for a team to have any money to send players anywhere, I hope they understand how much sending someone to wcg finals means to the bw comunity, its no small thing. let the man go.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Tenryu
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States565 Posts
October 19 2009 19:18 GMT
#78
Lol.. EG is so selfish. IMO this act makes them look worse. sad
http://myanimelist.net/profile/Understar
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
October 19 2009 19:28 GMT
#79
On October 20 2009 04:18 Tenryu wrote:
Lol.. EG is so selfish. IMO this act makes them look worse. sad

Sadly i agree.

As Louder said, nobody thinks their budget is unlimited.
Or a good budget at all, or lots of money at all in foreign starcraft.
The fans of E.G's team member Louder, fans of the team of E.G wants to help them.
And all they get is a hit with a baseball bat ,Worms Armageddon style.
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
October 19 2009 19:33 GMT
#80
I'm with these folks. EG's fucked for doing this. I hope they take the time to think about how this makes them look to the community.
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