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[Fantasy] PL 09-10 R1 Discussion - Page 26

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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3127 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 19:39:36
October 21 2009 19:38 GMT
#501
Well...Iris accomplished nothing, and my team pick KHAN went 0-3, with Jangbi and Stork both winning nothing. And then...Roro happened to my anti-team.

So...not a great start to the season. Curse my blind KHAN fanboyism!

To be fair, though, Luxury and Bisu are both performing well. And I fully expect Stork to pick up soon.

The problem now, though, is that I can't really trade anyone on my team or anti-team, as the only people to anti-team trade Roro for would be Calm, Flash, Effort, and Jaedong...which I'm definitely not doing. And Jangbi and Iris are both so low value that I can't trade them for anyone decent. And Samsung is so low I can't trade 'em for anyone but Airforce ACE. Oh, and Stork is my team captain (but I wouldn't trade him anyway).

So...I'm pretty much stuck with my team, at position #1584. Yeah.
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nadafanboy42
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
October 21 2009 20:22 GMT
#502
My anti-team is killing me anybody want to help a newb out with some trading advice? I feel really sad that my great success with my fanboy main team (61 points!) is being completely canceled by a -15 point anti-team. But I really don't know who to trade, since I can only trade up it feels like I'll just trade one good point-scoring player for another good point-scoring player...
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 22 2009 01:14 GMT
#503
On October 22 2009 05:22 nadafanboy42 wrote:
My anti-team is killing me anybody want to help a newb out with some trading advice? I feel really sad that my great success with my fanboy main team (61 points!) is being completely canceled by a -15 point anti-team. But I really don't know who to trade, since I can only trade up it feels like I'll just trade one good point-scoring player for another good point-scoring player...


unfortunately, success in FPL is very much dependent on how strong your first couple of weeks were. I don't expect anyone other than KT users to win, or hell, I don't expect anyone other than KT users to place in the top 10. It's a rich get richer situation due to the heavily inflated trade values that KT players will carry.

it's the same situation for anti team, if you get unlucky and take a huge anti team hit then your options become very very limited. for next week, if sea appears twice try to trade him, and likewise for guemchi. if there's no other options then yeah.. just hope for the best.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 22 2009 01:28 GMT
#504
i have no trade power since my players aren't winning. I'm sad i didn't trust lux recovery
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 22 2009 02:48 GMT
#505
dang i can only trade away roro for jaedong or flash!?!?
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 07:52:42
October 22 2009 05:40 GMT
#506
quick question: i picked daezang in the beginning for my team so that i could pick 2 strong players, but now i wanna get rid of one of the strong players as well as daezang. if i give away my stronger player for someone of less value (as normal) its not like i can trade away daezang right? damn it, hes 0 so i can only trade him for cloud -.- ugh nothing i can do to trade him for someone of higher value???

another quick question, u dont, at any point, get points from your anti team right? like even if the player loses, u dont get anything? thats no fun
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 22 2009 05:48 GMT
#507
Well see you next round .I made 2 mistakes . First one was choosing Samsung as my main team and JangBi instead of going with Wemade and Mind ;( . The other one is trading Zero for Yarnc .
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
October 22 2009 05:56 GMT
#508
I really want to trade Really from my anti-team, but there seems to be no good options to get him for, except Backho, which I already have.

Any recommendations?
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LoveJuice
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia54 Posts
October 22 2009 06:05 GMT
#509
Does anyone knows why I can only trade Jangbi away for players in green fonts (Protoss)? The rest are greyed out (disabled). My other players with lower value than him has no such problems e.g Iris with same 0-2 win loss.

Also, why does the Trade Value in TRADE screen in multiples of 10s and in STATS screen it is in multiple of 1s (as is when picking initial team)? The difference is quite substantial too even if the 10s are divided to multiples of 1s. I just can't find anywhere any info on how the formulas work...
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 22 2009 06:21 GMT
#510
On October 22 2009 15:05 LoveJuice wrote:
Does anyone knows why I can only trade Jangbi away for players in green fonts (Protoss)? The rest are greyed out (disabled). My other players with lower value than him has no such problems e.g Iris with same 0-2 win loss.

You need one of each race in your team. JangBi is your only Protoss.
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dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
October 22 2009 06:23 GMT
#511
On October 22 2009 15:05 LoveJuice wrote:
Does anyone knows why I can only trade Jangbi away for players in green fonts (Protoss)? The rest are greyed out (disabled). My other players with lower value than him has no such problems e.g Iris with same 0-2 win loss.

Also, why does the Trade Value in TRADE screen in multiples of 10s and in STATS screen it is in multiple of 1s (as is when picking initial team)? The difference is quite substantial too even if the 10s are divided to multiples of 1s. I just can't find anywhere any info on how the formulas work...


1) Your team must have 1 Protoss, 1 Terran and 1 Zerg anytime. Because Jangbi is your only P you just can trade him for another P or trade another Player of your team and aquire a P.

2) The Trade Value in Trade Screen is the adjusted Trade-Value. It is calculated by multiplying the normal Trade Value with the number of the remaining games of the team the player belongs to.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 07:50:40
October 22 2009 07:30 GMT
#512
wow, this week is huge for trading. gonna start seeing which of the dozens of KT based teams are the real deal by what trades (or lack of trades) they make.

this week I traded fantasy for leta and SKT for Woongjin.

fanta-->layta was an easy choice. leta's is very under valued in terms of trade value at the moment, due to a mini-proleague slump (1-2 in sets). his sets look fine, and he's pretty much guaranteed ace, unless it's a terrible terran map (do those even exist?) and they decide to send one of their zergs.

SKT-->woongjin. crazy? maybe not. I predict lots of KT users abusing the inflated trade value value of KT to buy SKT, so im gonna try and differentiate myself from the crowd a little bit. plus i feel woongjin are gonna get a few wins, their line ups look great this week. SKT, on the other hand, have absolutely horrible line ups. They're playing boxer, who, fanboyism aside, has almost no chance of winning, and they continue to play best, despite his terrible performance. plus I feel the need to make a crazy move because there's no way I'll be able to cover the 17 points needed to catch the #1 KT fanboy otherwise.

I really want to trade away 815 (yes I know he's playing JD), but my options are really limited. curse you KT going 4-0 and keeping 815's trade value some what afloat.

edit: after typing this all up im beginning to have second thoughts about SKT-->woongjin. fuck this is hard
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
October 22 2009 07:54 GMT
#513
no fucking way, thank you STX for sending out by.hero in the ace match when i traded for him on my anti team because he had no games this week.

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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
October 22 2009 08:13 GMT
#514
Well, I invested mainly in STX and CJ at the beginning and tried to play it safe, but that obviously is not working. So, I made a bunch of huge trades this week in order to try to catch up because I'm not going to get anywhere sitting where i am now.

Calm -> Bisu OH YES I DID
Yarnc -> Firefist MORE RISKS

Yea, not thinking about the future anymore. God damn Iris and Movie put me in a hole early on, and I hvae not options other than this or stay (and I don't want to stay).
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 22 2009 08:20 GMT
#515
On October 22 2009 17:13 ketomai wrote:
Well, I invested mainly in STX and CJ at the beginning and tried to play it safe, but that obviously is not working. So, I made a bunch of huge trades this week in order to try to catch up because I'm not going to get anywhere sitting where i am now.

Calm -> Bisu OH YES I DID
Yarnc -> Firefist MORE RISKS

Yea, not thinking about the future anymore. God damn Iris and Movie put me in a hole early on, and I hvae not options other than this or stay (and I don't want to stay).

haha yeah I encourage everyone to go crazy. it's looking like a pretty boring round of FPL if KT continues to dominate.

calm-->bisu is a good trade

yarnc -->firefist oh god that is ballsy. FIREFIST FUCK YEAH
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 22 2009 09:30 GMT
#516
That's what i've done for upcomming week, still hesitating between undoing Jangbi=>Piano and trading CJ for Hite instead, what would you guys suggest?
CJ has really tough matches ahead and Hite might go 2-0.Samsung's playing once (no Jangbi), but it can be hard to get rid of Piano later on~

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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 22 2009 09:44 GMT
#517
youre not trading away justin? hmm
Trang
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia324 Posts
October 22 2009 10:34 GMT
#518
On October 22 2009 18:44 lazz wrote:
youre not trading away justin? hmm

I'm thinking the same thing, but it's to hard to think of who to take in the long run scheme of things :S

Question: If I make a trade and choose to undo it later, do I:
(a) incur 0 trade tax in the end;
(b) incur -1 trade tax for putting a trade through, despite undoing it; or
(c) incur -2 trade tax for putting through two 'transactions' (a trade and an undo)?

Sounds like it would be (a) based on the rules, but I would like to make sure
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 22 2009 10:45 GMT
#519
I'm thinking about going 2 of these:
Calm -> Bisu (stupid coach not sendind Calm for ace xD)
Jangbi -> PianO (KHAN sux and Jangbi is not even in the lineup)
Hyuk -> Stats (i feel KTR is gonna roll both CJ and OZ, and Stats is gonna win his match)
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 22 2009 11:22 GMT
#520
i traded zero for hyuk and now i'm stuck with him for a long time...

i got hyuked
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