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[T] Savior's Resolve - Page 5

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Dametri
Profile Joined September 2005
United States726 Posts
September 17 2009 00:21 GMT
#81
On September 17 2009 07:39 Marathe wrote:I can't really think of any examples of a legitimate comeback after 2 years of obscurity anyway, StarCraft's a very unforgiving game.

Nada, July
i once had sex with a dog,twice -z7-TranCe
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
September 17 2009 00:25 GMT
#82
I am looking forward to seeing savior play next season. I'm not expectin an OSL win from him or anything like that, but just to see him play.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 17 2009 00:40 GMT
#83
I believe the following.

1. Savior has the potential to make a comeback.
2. Savior won't make a comeback, unless something drastic happens.

Point 1 is in regards to Savior's lack of practice. This means he has a lot of room for improvement. And he's already super talented who knows the game much better than most players out there. Just look at Stork as someone who can just randomly pick up his game whenever he feels like taking a break from WoW.

Point 2 is because Savior shows no drive. For those of you who haven't seen it yet, I suggest you watch Micheal Jordan's HOF speech. Why is Jordan the greatest basketball player? Because he plays with chip on his shoulder. Because he motivates himself constantly. So he practiced harder and prepared harder than everyone else. Do I see that in Savior? No. He can't play "for fun", because he's already won his titles and has no natural drive to obtain more. So he needs to manufacture them. And he apparently doesn't.

In the end, Savior playing for fun will result in noobs practicing 12 hours a day relentlessly kicking his ass. This isn't 2007 anymore.
Meh
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 17 2009 00:42 GMT
#84
On September 17 2009 09:40 baubo wrote:
I believe the following.

1. Savior has the potential to make a comeback.
2. Savior won't make a comeback, unless something drastic happens.

Point 1 is in regards to Savior's lack of practice. This means he has a lot of room for improvement. And he's already super talented who knows the game much better than most players out there. Just look at Stork as someone who can just randomly pick up his game whenever he feels like taking a break from WoW.

Point 2 is because Savior shows no drive. For those of you who haven't seen it yet, I suggest you watch Micheal Jordan's HOF speech. Why is Jordan the greatest basketball player? Because he plays with chip on his shoulder. Because he motivates himself constantly. So he practiced harder and prepared harder than everyone else. Do I see that in Savior? No. He can't play "for fun", because he's already won his titles and has no natural drive to obtain more. So he needs to manufacture them. And he apparently doesn't.

In the end, Savior playing for fun will result in noobs practicing 12 hours a day relentlessly kicking his ass. This isn't 2007 anymore.


Yeah, it's 2010! Savior will destroy everyone in 2010! yes! hint of sarcasm! rofl!
:)
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
September 17 2009 00:43 GMT
#85
Please, we all know there can only be one overmind...
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 00:46:53
September 17 2009 00:45 GMT
#86
Sorry, but I still don't think (Z)sAviOr is going to come out of this slump personally. Or at least he won't be one of the top players anyway.

EDIT: Of course, I would love to be proven wrong, but just my opinion. Still a (Z)sAviOr fan though.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
September 17 2009 00:48 GMT
#87
Maestro, I believe. <3

Just go siphon Effort and Calm's souls, and you'll be well on your way up the ladder again.
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
September 17 2009 01:03 GMT
#88
Savior trumps all!
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
September 17 2009 01:17 GMT
#89
GO SAVIOR!!! I WILL WATCH YOUR GAMES AND ROOT FOR YOU WHETHER YOU WIN OR LOSE!!!!!! yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i hope you have fun playing your games. woohoo!
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
September 17 2009 01:19 GMT
#90
Savior is one of the few zergs i like. I hope he does good.
meow
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
September 17 2009 01:35 GMT
#91
On September 17 2009 07:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Hoping Savior 3-0s Bisu in the MSL finals.


I would jizz my pants.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
September 17 2009 01:56 GMT
#92
GO SAVIOR GO~
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 17 2009 02:08 GMT
#93
Man imagine if Savior get that 300+ APM, he would be a bonjwa once again.
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G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
September 17 2009 02:10 GMT
#94
MJY MJY
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
September 17 2009 02:33 GMT
#95
Find your love for the game, again... Savior! We love to watch you play it.

And IMO sAviOr already proved he can comeback. At one point in 2009 he was like 12-2, he whooped Bisu, and he was in RO8 in MSL, and was knocked out in a ZvZ (his weakest).

He's got to just make a "better" comeback if people are going to remember it.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
September 17 2009 02:42 GMT
#96
Upcoming headline.
[T] FBH's Resolve.

too many guffs, imo.
Didnt he say he was thinking about retirement?
blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-17 02:48:55
September 17 2009 02:45 GMT
#97
Statistically, Savior's recent record in ZvP and ZvT is pretty good. The problem is that he's a ZvZ anti-bonjwa. And watching his ZvZs, it's not just luck, he's just terrible at the matchup. If he doesn't buckle down and learn modern ZvZ, all he can hope for is that the map pool becomes less Zerg-friendly... but the new proleague maps seem like the exact opposite.

(Or he could try to race pick T or P against Z, heh.)
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
September 17 2009 02:49 GMT
#98
It's not like Savior doesn't understand modern ZvZ. He places himself in a position of advantage in even his most current games. The big problem is that the majority of Zerg players have improved their Muta micro to a level he can't compete. Every time a game goes to Mutas/Scourge he is consistently outmicroed and loses. Consequently, then the ability to change strategies and attempt ling busts goes down because opponents know he can't win if a game gets to that point.
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
September 17 2009 02:49 GMT
#99
Savior has been nurturing Effort's hands for harvesting. At long last, the ritual will commence!

On a serious note, I wonder if this means that Savior is finally done with his "personal dilemmas" that he claimed would be resolved soon in this July interview: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98685

Maybe reclaiming his feeling of what it was like in the past is one and the same personal dilemma. Maybe it was beating Stork in WoW PvP. Maybe we'll never know.
Wake up Mr. B!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 17 2009 02:54 GMT
#100
Good luck Savior! But I have to say that it is going to be very very tough.
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