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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
July 29 2007 14:56 GMT
#1
I have a friend that became interested in BroodWar after the announcement of Starcraft2. I was more than happy to play with him. He has WarCraft3 experience so his micro and handspeed is pretty decent, and I've been helping him get used to macro and build orders so that he can catch up and start beating me.

In the last few weeks he's appeared to get much better, grasping concepts of aggression and harrass much quicker than your average noob (including myself). I've been very happy to see this improvement. Where I used to win every game, we're now almost trading games (I still have a slight edge).

However, today while looking at our last game in BWChart I noticed the odd shape of his resources chart:

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I went back and looked at all of our games this month, and after the first two we played, all of his resource charts looked like the image above (amazing mineral and unit growth in the first 30 seconds of each game). I looked at my other ZvT's this month and none of my opponent's resource charts resemble this. If this is a bug in BWChart, it's odd that it's specific to my friend.

Remembering that the last 6-7 games we've played he's avoided expanding, opting instead to build up and try to take me out early-game, I started to suspect maybe a mineral hack, so I watched a replay or two and nothing is obviously odd. When I click on a building, he doesn't have 7k minerals, and things appear to be being built as he can afford it, though I haven't scrutinized that too much (been watching at x2 speed).

So TL.netters! Have you seen resource charts like this before? If so, does it indicate the use of mineral hack, or is it just a peculiar bug? If you've ever used mineral hack, do your resource charts look like this in BWChart?

If it's a bug that'd be a relief because it'd mean my friend is getting better. If it's a hack I wanna call him on it. Maphack might have some instructive value, but mineral hack definitely doesn't.

Lemme know. Thanks.

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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
July 29 2007 15:01 GMT
#2
i know his name (sorta now) czeEmPe..
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
July 29 2007 15:03 GMT
#3
whoops... at least it's only half his account name.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
July 29 2007 15:06 GMT
#4
I've never seen a jump like that. Replays are really the only things that will help us decide though.
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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-29 15:23:15
July 29 2007 15:12 GMT
#5
edit: no need to share the replay now.
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-29 15:24:09
July 29 2007 15:19 GMT
#6
It's a bug with bwchart. I've seen it occasionally in my 3v3 games and I also have a friend that it happens to.

Edit: to illustrate my point, a 3v3 game just above two minutes:

http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namnlsiq6.gif
This neo violence, pure self defiance
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-29 15:24:26
July 29 2007 15:23 GMT
#7
It happens to your friend every game? Does he have a theory on why it happens? Thanks, Hittegods! Relieved that its a bug.
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
July 29 2007 17:05 GMT
#8
bro...judging by the stats your friend owns you in everything units...supply...gas...minerals...apm...all that haha once he learns unit and b.o. counters its over dude
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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-29 17:41:38
July 29 2007 17:35 GMT
#9
the stats are bugged... that's what this blog is about....

He does have faster hands, though. Some day soon he'll eclipse me if I don't manage to improve.

Edit: the bug looks like it adds 100 supply and units and 7000 minerals to his chart.
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
July 29 2007 18:17 GMT
#10
maybe he spams ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
July 29 2007 18:22 GMT
#11
On July 30 2007 03:17 LeoTheLion wrote:
maybe he spams ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss


Ah... that's it. He presses 1s1s1s1s1s1s1s1s1s1s1s in the early game. The mystery, she is explay-ned. Good times.
HappyFeetO_O
Profile Joined June 2007
China350 Posts
July 29 2007 20:15 GMT
#12
On July 30 2007 02:05 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
bro...judging by the stats your friend owns you in everything units...supply...gas...minerals...apm...all that haha once he learns unit and b.o. counters its over dude


You are so goddamn stupid, and I say this not based on this single post but based on this post + 15 others by you that I've seen
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