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FuzzyAzurik
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Denmark39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 23:04:21
June 21 2011 21:25 GMT
#1
Hello fellow members of Teamliquid

So over the couple of weeks i have been developing an application that is basically able to inform you when a streamer has begun their stream. It kinda works like Skype or Msn in that matter.
If you want to read more about the application please read one of my previous blogs. Previous blog

Download here: Link (Only available on Windows with .NET 4 framework)

Features:
- Able to save the streams when closing the application and load the the saved streams when opening the application.
- Add a stream, with the needed information.
- Show the status, the viewer count and preview of online streams.
- Able to edit name and stream URL, after the stream has been added.
- Able to delete a stream.
- Able to press watch stream(this function will open the default browser and load the stream's url).
- Justin.TV support.
- Automatically update the streams(this is done between every 5 - 90 minutes, you can change it in options)
- A notifier which tells when a player is has started their stream(Something like when a skype/msn friend has logged on, need some more work(graphics)).

Features to come
- Able to sort in the list(online/offline, viewercount etc.)
- Better design.
- Support for more streaming sites such as Own3d and Ustream etc..
Please write more ideas in the comments

Known bugs:
- After each update the stream list is deleted.
- PLEASE be sure that the stream's URL is not country affected
meaning: http://de.justin.tv/fuzzydk,(german version)
this should be http://www.justin.tv/fuzzydk or http://www.justin.tv/fuzzydk#/w/1367848176
(I will fix this problem in the near future)
If you find a bug please write it in the comments

Pictures:
Main form:
[image loading]
This is the main form, upon right-click you can Watch, edit and delete a stream.

Options(or option )
[image loading]
There will be more options in the future.

Streamer has begun streaming:
[image loading]
Little pop-up that inform you that a streamer has begun streaming.

Important:
Now this is just a beta version and this means that I will be updating the program. Updating might damage previously stream list and causing it to reset!

Vote up on redit?
Reddit

-Fuzzy

*****
Chill get out! - Tsl3 Naniwa
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 21 2011 21:33 GMT
#2
Very nice =)

Double clicking a stream could open up the stream? Just an idea. Thanks
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
FuzzyAzurik
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Denmark39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 21:52:11
June 21 2011 21:34 GMT
#3
Yeah I thought about it, but what if you wanna edit something in a cell..? double click? that is normal for me atleast, anyway thanks the idea it is noted!
Chill get out! - Tsl3 Naniwa
PR4Y
Profile Joined November 2010
United States260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 22:35:17
June 21 2011 22:32 GMT
#4
Have you gone through code optimization and bandwidth usage monitoring? This seems like a good idea, and I understand that it is in BETA, but this just seems like another one of those "do I REALLY need another icon in my task bar?" programs. I really love the idea, don't get me wrong... but there are a few major concerns I have:


1. Why .NET? Java actually benchmarks faster then C++ now, and isn't restricted to Windows machines.
2. Bandwidth? How often are your routines checking for stream updates? This can cause serious lag issues on slowER (less then 3mbps) connections even though it wont use much throughput, because of the amount of packets involved in checking lists of streams for updates. I'd suggest limiting the routine to every few minutes, as anything less then this would cause minor lag spikes with any more then 10-15 streams to check.
3. Memory? How much memory does this consume? .NET is NOTORIOUS for packing WAY too many libraries in small applications like this. This is another reason why I'd suggest using Java, as you can much easier manage the libraries used in your project.
4. Data format? What type of resources are you using to store saved stream information? XML would be the most logical with the .NET framework.



Seems like a good idea, and with more community feedback I'm sure it will become popular to a certain extent... but don't lose sight on the important things in search for the flashy. Don't try to add too many features before you get the framework ironed out.




EDIT:

Just saw the picture of the "Options Menu"... good start, I hereby retract my Bandwidth statement... but I feel it should still be included in my concerns as a reminder to focus on the important things in the project development stages.
I'm your average Brotoss brother, weilding my brommortal, brothership, brolossus, bro ray, broenix... BROTHERHOOD OF BROTOSS
PR4Y
Profile Joined November 2010
United States260 Posts
June 21 2011 22:36 GMT
#5
On June 22 2011 06:34 FuzzyAzurik wrote:
Yeah I thought about it, but what if you wanna edit something in a cell..? double click? that is normal for me atleast, anyway thanks the idea it is noted!



Editing a cell with double click is usually only used in IDE's, and your average computer user would be more used to double click being associated with "executing" the action they are double clicking. You should add some right-click context menu's for editing purposes.
I'm your average Brotoss brother, weilding my brommortal, brothership, brolossus, bro ray, broenix... BROTHERHOOD OF BROTOSS
MiB
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden325 Posts
June 21 2011 22:38 GMT
#6
I have been using it for 40 minutes now and it has already let me catch Antimage and Tod's streams starting.

Question
I also put in Mondragon and strelok but they use Owned.tv will it still work?

Also I want to be able to click the announcement to bring up the stream.
But this has worked fine so far Nice job!
How do I shape water.
FuzzyAzurik
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Denmark39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 22:58:46
June 21 2011 22:46 GMT
#7
On June 22 2011 07:32 PR4Y wrote:
Have you gone through code optimization and bandwidth usage monitoring? This seems like a good idea, and I understand that it is in BETA, but this just seems like another one of those "do I REALLY need another icon in my task bar?" programs. I really love the idea, don't get me wrong... but there are a few major concerns I have:


1. Why .NET? Java actually benchmarks faster then C++ now, and isn't restricted to Windows machines.

2. Bandwidth? How often are your routines checking for stream updates? This can cause serious lag issues on slowER (less then 3mbps) connections even though it wont use much throughput, because of the amount of packets involved in checking lists of streams for updates. I'd suggest limiting the routine to every few minutes, as anything less then this would cause minor lag spikes with any more then 10-15 streams to check.

3. Memory? How much memory does this consume? .NET is NOTORIOUS for packing WAY too many libraries in small applications like this. This is another reason why I'd suggest using Java, as you can much easier manage the libraries used in your project.

4. Data format? What type of resources are you using to store saved stream information? XML would be the most logical with the .NET framework.

Seems like a good idea, and with more community feedback I'm sure it will become popular to a certain extent... but don't lose sight on the important things in search for the flashy.


1: Because I am a freshman as a software engineer at the university of Aalborg and we were teached in C# and therefore i felt more secure writing the program in C# rather than Java. Although i do see you point in writing the application in Java. So personal reasons really...

2: The routines is minimum 5 min. for each refresh and max 90 min.

3: I have not seen the application rise above 10.000 K in the Task manager

4: For now i store it by simple serialization, binary formatter I do have plans on changing this to XML.
Chill get out! - Tsl3 Naniwa
FuzzyAzurik
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Denmark39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 22:51:33
June 21 2011 22:48 GMT
#8
On June 22 2011 07:38 MiB wrote:
I have been using it for 40 minutes now and it has already let me catch Antimage and Tod's streams starting.

Question
1: I also put in Mondragon and strelok but they use Owned.tv will it still work?

2:Also I want to be able to click the announcement to bring up the stream.
But this has worked fine so far Nice job!


1: At the moment no.. although I plan to expand the support to other stream sites.

edit:
2: Noted... Thanks!
Chill get out! - Tsl3 Naniwa
FuzzyAzurik
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Denmark39 Posts
June 21 2011 22:49 GMT
#9
On June 22 2011 07:36 PR4Y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 06:34 FuzzyAzurik wrote:
Yeah I thought about it, but what if you wanna edit something in a cell..? double click? that is normal for me atleast, anyway thanks the idea it is noted!



Editing a cell with double click is usually only used in IDE's, and your average computer user would be more used to double click being associated with "executing" the action they are double clicking. You should add some right-click context menu's for editing purposes.


Good point, idea noted...
Chill get out! - Tsl3 Naniwa
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
June 21 2011 23:54 GMT
#10
er Norton quarantined it :/
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
FuzzyAzurik
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Denmark39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 00:05:41
June 22 2011 00:02 GMT
#11
On June 22 2011 08:54 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
er Norton quarantined it :/


Lol really?! haha!! Mmm might have to look into that..

edit:
Reason?
Chill get out! - Tsl3 Naniwa
PR4Y
Profile Joined November 2010
United States260 Posts
June 22 2011 03:13 GMT
#12
Norton is pretty harsh on standalone apps like this... My bet is that it's viewing the app's multiple destination sources as some sort of malware / phishing and is quarantining on grounds of possible spyware?


Honestly, I'd have NO idea how to get around that, as I've never ran into a problem like that (and I have a B.S. in computer science)...


A great community I thoroughly recommend you become involved with is http://dreamincode.net -> they are the #1 programming support community in the world... They have an insanely large user-base built solely upon helping people solve every day programming questions. I wouldn't of made it through college without Dream.In.Code... I've been an author there for like 5 years and have authored quite a few articles / tutorials... hopefully I'll see you over there :-D
I'm your average Brotoss brother, weilding my brommortal, brothership, brolossus, bro ray, broenix... BROTHERHOOD OF BROTOSS
FuzzyAzurik
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Denmark39 Posts
June 22 2011 07:57 GMT
#13
On June 22 2011 12:13 PR4Y wrote:
Norton is pretty harsh on standalone apps like this... My bet is that it's viewing the app's multiple destination sources as some sort of malware / phishing and is quarantining on grounds of possible spyware?


Honestly, I'd have NO idea how to get around that, as I've never ran into a problem like that (and I have a B.S. in computer science)...


A great community I thoroughly recommend you become involved with is http://dreamincode.net -> they are the #1 programming support community in the world... They have an insanely large user-base built solely upon helping people solve every day programming questions. I wouldn't of made it through college without Dream.In.Code... I've been an author there for like 5 years and have authored quite a few articles / tutorials... hopefully I'll see you over there :-D


Wise words, sometimes Norton is just annoying
Anyway thanks for the link, I will definitely look into it. And thanks for your feedback!
Chill get out! - Tsl3 Naniwa
Figa12
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark2 Posts
June 22 2011 13:18 GMT
#14
I like the idea, and i will be following this closely
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