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cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
April 08 2010 00:06 GMT
#1
Today, for once, I checked my uOttawa email and behold what I got.






*Error 571: hide header failed, returned zero, will display header
information before message

/command = [# login-hack: uOttawa.student-direct.thx.1138.cc] ;
/command = [# to: all 67,275 student emails] ;
/command = [# from: Marc Kelly @ www.marckelly.tv] ;
/command = [# instr: *come-to-Tabaret-tomorrow-1pm*] ;
/command = [# tags: random-bits-poetry] ;
/command = [# project: experim-comm.-art-not-spam!] ;
/command = [# begin: message-purplerobot7] ;

> message transmission commencing . . .
> message delivered successfully to all recipients




dear friends, new friends, old friends, unknown friends, close friends,
distant friends, potential friends, an everyone else

this is marc kelly (hi)

(if at any point you want me to stop talking, the delete button located
either near the top or at the bottom)

i hope it's okay i found my way into your inbox again

today is April 7th, 2010, and i am sending this message out to you and to
everyone because, after tomorrow, i may not be able to speak to anyone on
campus again because the University is sending me to prison

<> note before reading further: i never payed attention in english class
very much and i always got my friends to tell me what happened in the books
we were suppose to read and instead of writing essays i doodled funny
pictures on the pages and got bad grades and i never really learned how to
write properly so sorry for all the the language inconsistency i hope there
is not too much grammatical non-conformity for easy readability this is an
emergency and i am writing with urgency so please don't hate on me for
speaking to the whole community simultaneously without a university degree
<>


what i am trying to say is: this message could be the last you ever hear
from me

the last i have
never met
you

never

talked
laughed
pondered
or explored campus with you (the only thing what else are we here to do?)

the last of our separately diverging paths

decided for

by neither me nor you


.

so most of you don't know me, though it is possible a few of you may have
heard a thing or two about me already, most likely through stories and tales
passed along from mouth to ear, spread wide and near, printed on newspaper
always never clear, facts changing with each iteration by those who can't
help not knowing how they participated to create a world of false fear and
mass stupidity

*This Thursday @ 1pm, inside Tabaret Hall, I will speak publicly.

Then: I will be taken to jail by the University. *

*See how they threaten me?*
*
*
*From: Claude J. Giroux <Claude.Giroux@uottawa.ca>*
*Subject: RE: Urgent (Medical), Request to Rescind No-Trespass Notice*
*To: Marc Kelly <marckelly.uottawa@gmail.com>*

*Mr. Kelly,*

*Please provide me with the time and date of your appointment so that I can
notify my staff and let me know on which floor your doctor’s office is
located at the Health Services clinic. This is only considered a temporary
access for medical reasons. Access will only be allowed to this specific
building (100 Marie Curie) and you will be requested to leave campus once
your appointment with your doctor is over with. If you are seen anywhere
else on campus, you will be subject to arrest for breach of trespass, and
other police action. *

*Claude Giroux**
Director, Protectron Services*

but if this message fails to reach all of you, probably intercepted and
censored by the University, I could stay stuck in a prison cell until early
next year after the court case is all cleared. so this is my last chance to
explain, in as much detail as i can, why I need each and every one of you to
come out and stand by me on thursday

*i need each and every one of you to help protect me from the bizzaro
university!
if you came out tomorrow, i'd listen to everything you have to say to me
too!*

i love this world.
i love our society.
i love you if you are my friend.
i love you if you are my enemy

(but I do not love this country)

*X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
**X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X *
* X X X X X X X X
X X X

*
*On May 14th, 2009, three Ottawa Police Officers were sent to my home
apartment by the University. They entered without a warrant, and they
arrested me while I was sleeping. I was charged under the Criminal Code of
Canada for "speaking directly to" the President of the University, because I
asked him a question on March 4th, 2009, during the Q & A of his inaugural
lecture series.
*
*
*
*YOU CAN WATCH THE VIDEO OF ME ASKING AN ILLEGAL QUESTION HERE:
fast forward the video, my question starts at 1:11:35

Responsibility to Protect: a Doctrine of Humanity
http://events.onlinebroadcasting.com/uottawa/030409/index.php
**
X X X*
* X X X X X X X X*
*X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X *
*X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X *

I DO NOT THINK IT IS OKAY THAT IN THIS COUNTRY A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY
OF OTTAWA CAN BE ARRESTED BY THE POLICE AND PUT IN JAIL FOR *ASKING A
QUESTION*

*aren't we not always taught by our professors, "there are no stupid
questions" ?*

if illegal questions exist, does that mean there are indeed stupid questions
too?

if that's true, then what's the difference between an illegal question and a
stupid question?

is a stupid question also an illegal question, and is an illegal question
always a stupid question?

in the year 2013, could the President of the University be a student?




well thatz all I have to say until the police come to arrest me for talking
publicly on campus this thursday (that's tomorrow!)

have a nice wednesday everybody


*<<Here we have the marvelous illustration of the functioning of propaganda
in a democracy. A totalitarian state simply enunciates official doctrine --
clearly, explicity. Internally, one can think what one likes, but one can
only express opposition at one's peril.>>*

- Chomsky-Foucault debate on human nature, 1971.


Sincerely,

Marc Kelly
student since 2003

text message me?
613.617.4314







I overheard some other people got this email too, I guess almost everyone got it (well those going to uOttawa atleast).

I might even go and see what he will talk about. Though I have yet to see the video.

**
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
April 08 2010 00:10 GMT
#2
Got TL:DR or a more legibly formatted message?
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 00:13:58
April 08 2010 00:13 GMT
#3
Heh, this is exactly how the message appears in the email. Sorry but I don't.
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
Leg[end]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States241 Posts
April 08 2010 00:13 GMT
#4
I'm seriously trying to decide if this is a troll or not...

Either way, wtf.
Legends Never Die ;;
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 08 2010 00:13 GMT
#5
Umm, I'm a bit confused still. What, exactly, is he going to jail for? Was he banned from the university for something he said/did and thus is trespassing? What exactly is the situation?
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 08 2010 00:14 GMT
#6
hes being arrested for asking a question
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
April 08 2010 00:17 GMT
#7
Is this real or what is this
Graphics
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
April 08 2010 00:17 GMT
#8
On April 08 2010 09:13 L_Master wrote:
Umm, I'm a bit confused still. What, exactly, is he going to jail for? Was he banned from the university for something he said/did and thus is trespassing? What exactly is the situation?


Maybe he said "CAN I FUCK YOUR SISTER?" to the university president..
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 00:18:59
April 08 2010 00:18 GMT
#9
the important part:

TL DR VERSION :D:D

*

*On May 14th, 2009, three Ottawa Police Officers were sent to my home
apartment by the University. They entered without a warrant, and they
arrested me while I was sleeping. I was charged under the Criminal Code of
Canada for "speaking directly to" the President of the University,
because I
asked him a question on March 4th, 2009, during the Q & A of his inaugural
lecture series.
*
*YOU CAN WATCH THE VIDEO OF ME ASKING AN ILLEGAL QUESTION HERE:
fast forward the video, my question starts at 1:11:35

Responsibility to Protect: a Doctrine of Humanity
http://events.onlinebroadcasting.com/uottawa/030409/index.php
**


taking it with a grain of salt here. Need more info but I'd want my information verified before any sort of activist campaign.

Somewhat interested to see this play out :0
~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 08 2010 00:19 GMT
#10
The question was something like
Im asking, would you, Mr. (name), could you drop the charges for (something he did before)
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
April 08 2010 00:21 GMT
#11
what an emo
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
April 08 2010 00:24 GMT
#12
Well here they explain who he is and what he did, etc (somewhat)

http://wikibin.org/articles/marc-kelly.html

Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
April 08 2010 00:32 GMT
#13
I got it too. I also got it in another email account that is unrelated to my uottawa account.....

Believe it or not, this is not the craziest thing going on in Ottawa at the moment.....

CU students attacked with a machete.

Wtf is going on in this city?

Also, are you planning on playing against Rice this weekend?
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
April 08 2010 00:32 GMT
#14
His question actually starts at 1:12:40
Hi.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 08 2010 00:35 GMT
#15
Lots of shit going on with that university recently.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
April 08 2010 00:36 GMT
#16
hes being arrested for asking a question


Still confused, how do you get arrested for asking a question? My understanding is that he is being/going to be legitamately arrested by law enforcement. Since when does a asking questions lead to arrest?
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 00:41:28
April 08 2010 00:38 GMT
#17
"Arrest and Banishment
On December 1st 2008, Marc Kelly was arrested after filming the University of Ottawa's Senate meeting . Marc Kelly has been subsequently banished from the University of Ottawa by the Central Administration."
http://wikibin.org/articles/marc-kelly.html

edit: He could just be being smart and getting attention so the University has to drop the case or risk some uprisings. Or maybe he wants attention for after he graduates and wants a job. I don't know.

I just think it's silly to arrest someone to take a video of a press conference in a democratic country, and ridiculous to arrest one for asking a question.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
April 08 2010 00:46 GMT
#18
this is actually really interesting. from what i've read i don't know exactly what he did that was so wrong that he could actually be arrested.
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Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 00:47:13
April 08 2010 00:46 GMT
#19
There are actually a bunch of questions that are illegal to ask, and it's also illegal for anyone to tell you waht these illegal questions are.


Or so says this Nobel laureate and distinguished quantum physicist, in this book detailing his frustration with the corruption in our academic and industrial niches of society, and how science has strayed from it's roots.

+ Show Spoiler +

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465038298/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=046503828X&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0305GFCP6S8DPH52ZSX3


However this looks more like an attention grab
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
April 08 2010 00:48 GMT
#20
On April 08 2010 09:32 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
I got it too. I also got it in another email account that is unrelated to my uottawa account.....

Believe it or not, this is not the craziest thing going on in Ottawa at the moment.....

CU students attacked with a machete.

Wtf is going on in this city?

Also, are you planning on playing against Rice this weekend?


If you need a player sure thing.
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