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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 09:59:06
March 31 2010 09:50 GMT
#1
At first, I'm thinking spoofer, so I do a /whois. He had the account. Then, after game, I decided to check APM. His APM was 282 with terran, and was in the mid 200s with protoss.

All games on Fighting Spirit

I'm not thinking it's really him, as I'm not that amazing and I beat him 3 out of 5 games we played (went 1-2 PvT, and 2-0 ZvP) I know for a fact flash offraces as P sometimes, though, and the APM and build made me believe that even if it's not him, it's worthy of posting the first game we played.

Game 1 was 12 nexus auto win. I went 12 nex into 4 gate with zealot leg speed and trampled him. He had tried to play pretty safe and go 1 factory siege expand i'm pretty sure. He did the common "i'm better than you, so i'm going to play safe" plan B approach that most people do whenever they're cocky.

Game 2 I tried to reaver drop him, and he had excellent micro in not dying, as I went fake cybernetics upgrade on air weapons and he honestly thought I was 1 gate 1 robo... he managed to survive with no engineering bay/starport, just transferring his scvs back between natural and main, and the few scarabs I got off he managed to make buggy. In terms of build order, I really should have won game 2, and it wasn't even the fact that I fucked it up... when I caught flash off guard he was quick to react. I wish I had saved my losses, but I have a bad habit of not saving them.

Game 3 I scouted earlier than I had been... I scouted on 8/9. I scouted him late, and I saw he was going 15 cc ... 1 rax cc.. so i tried the play nony did vs idra in the TSL with the 4 gate (2 in middle of map) goon range -> zealots -> break them, but I fucked it up. As soon as he got siege I typed GG, as I was fucked.

Game 4 I decided I wanted to ZvT for shits and giggles, and go 9 pool speedling. I picked Z. When I picked Z, though, he decided to be protoss. I accidentally started an overlord, and since I wanted to do something off the wall anyways, I decided to do 3 hatch before pool. He scouted the wrong way, so he started a forge + cannons before he saw that he had fucked up. He cancelled his 2nd cannon right as it was about to finish. I got gas and a 4th hatch after my pool, and i proceeded to 5sz6sz7sz8sz and kwanro him.

Game 5 I went Z again, and he picked P again. I tried to 9 pool speedling, but his cannons were up in perfect time. I then tried to prevent his scouting after wasting my lings, but he managed to see my 1 hatch lair and hydralisk den. I was thinking fuck, i'm screwed... then i thought i have a lair, i can just make a spire... 1 hatch mutalisk is so unexpected for people, and i managed to kill a good deal of probes and the cannons he tried to warp in his main as i was picking off probes at his natural with my 3 mutas. i wont go into the game in detail, but since i went muta he proxied sairs... when he went sair i made hydras... when i made hydras he made reaver... i managed to kill his reaver shuttle, and he was trapped on his natural. even though i couldn't keep an overlord alive longer than 30 seconds i managed to win through having 4 bases to his 1.

I have every replay I won, and the 2 I lost were pretty short games (~10 minutes)

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=33949

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Poll: Is this really Flash?
(Vote): Yes.
(Vote): No.
(Vote): I didn't watch the replay.

University of Kentucky Basketball #1
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
March 31 2010 09:57 GMT
#2
is this blog a troll post because i feel like i'm being trolled
too easy
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 10:33:30
March 31 2010 10:03 GMT
#3
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 31 2010 10:03 GMT
#4
I am really not trolling, watch the replay.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
March 31 2010 10:03 GMT
#5
You're pretty bad. What is your rank, C-? Just curious.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 31 2010 10:03 GMT
#6
you really think your d+ skills are enough to take a game off flash?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
March 31 2010 10:05 GMT
#7
Let me answer your question with another question,

Are you the real Bill Murray?
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-31 11:06:26
March 31 2010 10:05 GMT
#8
DUDE i think that really was flash all the hotkeys and stuff match up omg 12 nex is imba lol BILL MURRAY BEAT FLASH GUYSSSSSSSSSSESSSSSSSS

Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 31 2010 10:06 GMT
#9
Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible.
I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins..
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
March 31 2010 10:08 GMT
#10
Wow...12 nex is imba if you can beat Flash...Maybe Blizzard should give BW one last patch before the final transition to SC2...

Kudos man, taking games off Flash like that.
TranslatorBaa!
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
March 31 2010 10:08 GMT
#11
On March 31 2010 19:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible.
I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins..

Ya, you're bad.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 31 2010 10:09 GMT
#12
my style of play isn't safe, but i win vs. anyone because of it.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 31 2010 10:11 GMT
#13
On March 31 2010 19:06 Bill Murray wrote:
Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible.
I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins..


so you have d+ macro then?

so you hit C as in you peaked C by doing all ins and proxies. are you combat ex?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
March 31 2010 10:11 GMT
#14
i used 12 nexus often because as a main Terran i knew its annyoing to play against that shit =(
yes you can bunkerrush, but if its succeed you wont be that much ahead but if you fail you can just leave and if you do nothing against it you are behind too =(
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 31 2010 10:13 GMT
#15
i wouldn't peak C if I played 400 in a season is what i'm saying.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 31 2010 10:15 GMT
#16
i really think it was him, and i feel like it's deja vu all over again.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
March 31 2010 10:16 GMT
#17
On March 31 2010 19:13 Bill Murray wrote:
i wouldn't peak C if I played 400 in a season is what i'm saying.


your a c-/c player tops imo with your play. idk why your so proud of dts and proxies and allins lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 31 2010 10:19 GMT
#18
is 12 nexus or 3 hatch before pool an all in? When I play people multiple games, I am good at messing with their heads via build orders. I really don't think you've even watched the replay.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
March 31 2010 10:19 GMT
#19
On March 31 2010 19:16 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2010 19:13 Bill Murray wrote:
i wouldn't peak C if I played 400 in a season is what i'm saying.


your a d+ player tops imo with your play. idk why your so proud of dts and proxies and allins lol

Fixed.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 31 2010 10:20 GMT
#20
I could get past d+ in like 4 hours dude shut up
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
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