• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:46
CET 03:46
KST 11:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !6Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1976 users

New video series on eSports production values

Blogs > moge
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 22:28:11
December 13 2011 00:14 GMT
#1


edit: episode 1 is up. I'm looking at the new show Bossfight.tv.


Hello all!
I am starting a new series on eSports production values. In this series I'm going to look at different shows, events, casts and streams and discuss, strictly from a production perspective, some of the things they are doing right and take a look at some of the things they can possibly improve on.

Why?
It seems that after every event there is either pitchforks or praise about one thing or another. I want to add constructive critique to that conversation. I want to be able to look at what works and why it works. I want to be able to explain those working mechanics, the thought process and the how of those working pieces so that other events, other casts and other shows might take those working ideas and incorporate them into their own production. I also want to look at those things that could have been done better. I want to let hindsight tell us the lessons learned of an event or show. I want to constructively add my 2cents in an attempt to make that production better.

Why now?
I've had this idea of a while now. After each show (or during, even) when pitchforks are flying it seems like any additive discussion is lost in the den or overwhelming negativity. What kicked my ass into finally starting this was iNcontrol's post about adding to the community. I’m a terrible player, I could never be a caster but I am a pretty darn good producer. This is my contribution. This is how I can add value to eSports. This is my positive addition in an effort to make this community even better.

Why you?
I talk over my ‘resume’ in the linked video. The TL;DR version is that I have been working in production for close to 20 years. I have produced huge events, I have produced micro-budget productions, I have worked on some of the largest sets for the most popular TV shows. I don’t always have the best ideas but I do have a knack for dissecting why good ideas work and helping productions that need some production ‘guidance’.

Goals
I guess the most important thing to note is that I am looking to add positive critique into the eSports production conversation. Pitchforks are great for calling out what is wrong but they also do very little to help that wrong get fixed. My goal is to look at all types of shows. I’ll look at shows that are doing it right and talk about hwo they are pulling it off and I’ll be looking at things that could use a little ‘help’.

Check out the intro video. I’ll be uploading my first episode in a few days.

GG!

Jason


****
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
Sp1der
Profile Joined August 2011
United States96 Posts
December 13 2011 00:24 GMT
#2
sounds awesome man! interested to see how this goes. gl hf
"If I don't sweat again today, I will be crying tears tomorrow"
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
December 13 2011 00:32 GMT
#3
I'll watch it later, seems like a good idea.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
trias_e
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
December 13 2011 02:33 GMT
#4
I hope that e-sports producers bookmark this thread. Free info from someone that knows what they talk about? This is a good thing.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
December 13 2011 03:12 GMT
#5
Great initiative, looking forward to the first episode.

Also, I've never heard anyone pronounce ESPORTS that way, but I think I like it better lol
Moderator
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
December 13 2011 03:13 GMT
#6
Your voice remind me of Dr. Spencer Reid from criminal minds.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 13 2011 04:03 GMT
#7
Interesting o.o I hope event organizers take notes
Also you sound really passionate about your ... field of work (?). <3
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 13 2011 04:04 GMT
#8
I'll be keeping an eye on this.
QuantumPope
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada76 Posts
December 13 2011 04:12 GMT
#9
If you would ever like to do a discussion with another person about the matter I have a lot to say on it. I have three years of experience in the film industry and like you have done many jobs on set and off. Send a PM if you'd like to get in contact.
www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv || sc2l.gg || d2l.gg || www.twitter.com/QuantumPope ||
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
December 13 2011 04:20 GMT
#10
wow.. he sounds so much like the guy from the MAC video years back that was a huge hit on YouTube..

here is link.. omfg.. he sounds so much like him! HERE is LINK!

Still Naked!
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 13 2011 04:21 GMT
#11
Looking forward to it!
Thank God and gunrun.
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
December 13 2011 04:29 GMT
#12
Great stuff moge -- Make sure you hit up the CSN stuff too.. we want the criticism.. it will only make us want to do better!
Still Naked!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 13 2011 04:33 GMT
#13
Looks cool will check it out!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
TheWahbinator
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
December 13 2011 04:52 GMT
#14
I really like this idea and already showed interest into contributing to this via PM. Let's get the word out to make sure that this is an important part of what makes pro-gaming a mass appeal from the audience perspective.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 13 2011 11:45 GMT
#15
Will definitely tune in.
Administrator
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 13:16 GMT
#16
Thanks everyone! It's encouraging to see this kind of support. The first episode should be going up this afternoon and will be on BossFight.TV. Anyone has suggestions for shows let me know.
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
MIhata
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria156 Posts
December 13 2011 14:09 GMT
#17
Good luck! I Defianitely tune in.
"Very important caster" - MC about himself. | MC | Boxer | Grubby | Jangbi | MMA | Polt | InCa | Symbol |
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
December 13 2011 16:10 GMT
#18
moge, do you have any hype on what the first episode will be about? I would love to spread the word.
Still Naked!
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
December 13 2011 16:50 GMT
#19
Okay, let me be the dick in here and say that your audio is maxed out. It makes you hard to understand and the audio flutters. Try using a dedicated mic, recording low and boosting in post. As it is now, it's hard to listen too and since your content is mostly audio, it should not be that hard to listen to.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#20
On December 14 2011 01:50 jacen wrote:
Okay, let me be the dick in here and say that your audio is maxed out. It makes you hard to understand and the audio flutters. Try using a dedicated mic, recording low and boosting in post. As it is now, it's hard to listen too and since your content is mostly audio, it should not be that hard to listen to.


totally agree. I'm using a new webcam for this and the first 2 episodes *intro and ep1" both have crappy audio. That is fixed, and talked about, in ep2.
Thanks for the feedback!
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft465
RuFF_SC2 151
ProTech129
Nathanias 57
Ketroc 41
Vindicta 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 525
Bale 254
NaDa 46
Noble 28
Mong 13
Hm[arnc] 9
League of Legends
C9.Mang0381
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox331
Other Games
summit1g10334
Day[9].tv646
XaKoH 587
ViBE176
Maynarde113
Trikslyr83
Mew2King43
CosmosSc2 42
Livibee27
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki6
• Pr0nogo 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22469
League of Legends
• Doublelift3919
Other Games
• Scarra671
• Day9tv646
Upcoming Events
WardiTV 2025
8h 14m
ByuN vs Creator
Clem vs Rogue
Scarlett vs Spirit
ShoWTimE vs Cure
OSC
11h 14m
Big Brain Bouts
14h 14m
YoungYakov vs Jumy
TriGGeR vs Spirit
CranKy Ducklings
1d 7h
WardiTV 2025
1d 8h
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
1d 9h
Ladder Legends
1d 16h
BSL 21
1d 17h
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.