• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:54
CEST 21:54
KST 04:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview25Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL46Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates7GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th12Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Magnus Carlsen and Fabi review Clem's chess game. BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Cheeseadelphia 2025 - Open Bracket LAN!
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion I made an ASL quiz [BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 1
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
What do you want from future RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9315 users

I’m a Xenobotanist – Ask me anything

Blogs > SirJolt
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4002 Posts
March 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#1
Over the last few years, I’ve been basically cramped in a tiny room studying away for college. I guess I’ve always just felt that my course was exactly the same as just about everyone else’s; it’s boring and nobody wants to hear about it, but then I realised, “Oh no wait, my research actually applies pretty directly to SC2, I should probably write a blog post about that.”

I originally was studying ethnobotany, but when the biology department opened a new lab, I was given the chance to move directly into xenobotany. It’s like a lazy man’s cryptozoology, because at least studying specious, speculative, space-bound plants doesn’t mean I have to ever go out searching for the things.

That said, this leaves me in a perfect position to describe to flora we find in SC2.

Daisies:

In this category, I include pretty much any plants that are, like the majority of our own plants on earth, really boring. I guess the only really nice thing about the daisies is imagining someone at Blizzard sitting down and thinking to themselves, “Well, shit. This place looks totally hostile and unfriendly. Let’s just put down some nice looking plants here to liven the place up. There, pretty as a picture.”

[image loading]
Fig. 1: Daisies growing beside a mineral clump. Also pictured, some SCVs.

My favourite part is that the daisies are clustered around the minerals. It’d be one thing to have them somewhere out in the middle of nowhere, but with this level of clustering we might reasonably posit that whatever the daisies need to grow (other than sunlight, presumably) is something we find in the soil surrounding mineral deposits.

Given the fact that fusion torches are needed to extract minerals, it’s probably more likely that the plants live on something in the soil surrounding the minerals, rather than the minerals themselves.

Carnivorous Plants:

Alright, these are a bit more interesting. There are plenty of SC2 maps that take place underground. Here, plants have had to find themselves some alternate food sources. The most impressive of these is the truly gargantuan pitcher plant. These plants lure unsuspecting prey (in this case, a marine) into their bell to be dissolved and feed the plant.

[image loading]
Fig. 2: A pitcher plant, likely about to eat a stimpack addicted marine. That poor man.

Normally, they’d just smell fancy to attract insects. In this case, I guess we’d have to imagine that the pitcher plant is either able to somehow psychically attract a marine or else it smells like a totally hot medevac pilot.

It would be unscientific to speculate on just which is true.

Bioluminescent Fronds:

These little fuckers totally threw me at first, but now I think I might want to write my dissertation on them. You see, at first, the fronds appear to be an individual affair, just chilling out in cave maps. As you’ve probably seen in the caverns, they wave from side to side, like a sea anemone, their tips glowing. They’re generally solitary, as below.

[image loading]
Fig. 3: Some lovely glow-in-the-dark ferns. Possibly carnivorous.

Now, in this instance, I couldn’t figure out where the fronds get their energy, I mean, we’ve already established there’s very little sunlight in the cave systems. I could understand the bioluminescence in terms of some bioluminescent mosses and planktons growing out of the sun’s light, but it just didn’t add up unless we considered their light to be an attractor for prey, much like an anglerfish. Ingenious!

They do clump together too, but only nearer map edges… perhaps in an effort to take on larger prey? I bet they'd totally wreck an ultralisk.

[image loading]
Fig. 3.1: This group of plants has formed a very elegant Christmas-tree-decoration arrangement.

Bizarrely, the fronds do pose an interesting question about how lighting works in SC2. While they appear to give off little visible light themselves, objects in the immediate vicinity of the fronds give off a magnificent glow out of all proportion to their brightness. It could be that the plants are mildly radioactive, which would weaken any animals, or marines (as shown below) foolish enough to wander into their reach.

[image loading]
Fig. 3.2: Possibly radioactive! Who knows what damage their little rave-lights do. Dance on marines!

Megaflora:

There’s also a bundle of totally crazy shit that just grows pretty much anywhere you can’t send troops. There are all kinds of dense woodland around map edges, and in the crevices of cave systems there are huge plants that just look like bones jutting out of the landscape. I don’t even want to consider what those things do/eat/drink.

[image loading]
Fig 4: Check this shit out, I have no idea at all. I bet they can turn a planet inside out or something...

I bet they’re totally insane though.

Maybe I should do my PhD research on those?





+ Show Spoiler +
I'm so sorry, when I started this I had the idea that it was totally hilarious, and then I just couldn't stop myself. It was all I could do not to add a bibliography.


****
Moderator@SirJolt
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
March 28 2011 00:02 GMT
#2
This is really good, haha.

Well written!
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
PetitCrabe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada410 Posts
March 28 2011 00:21 GMT
#3
Hm... Your article is not really credible. Lacks sources and in which scientific journal has this be published? There's also a lot of speculation without any lab testing and studies. Grade: F
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4002 Posts
March 28 2011 01:09 GMT
#4
Please, pay no attention to PetitCrabe, he's been trying to discredit me so that his own pedestrian earthbound botany papers will be published.

UNLIKELY, SIR.
Moderator@SirJolt
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
March 28 2011 01:14 GMT
#5
On March 28 2011 09:21 PetitCrabe wrote:
Hm... Your article is not really credible. Lacks sources and in which scientific journal has this be published? There's also a lot of speculation without any lab testing and studies. Grade: F


Yeah really this seems like pure speculation, give me some sources and then maybe we can talk.

But seriously, it amazes me that people can put so much detail into something so insignificant in this game and that's what makes the TL community great.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
March 28 2011 01:20 GMT
#6
Ask Blizzard for a research grant. Maybe you can do research in Azerothian Botany as well.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
March 28 2011 01:44 GMT
#7
On March 28 2011 10:20 Entropic wrote:
Ask Blizzard for a research grant.

LOL! Seriously, submit a research proposal to blizzard. they have a wide enough sense of humor something might happen
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 28 2011 01:47 GMT
#8
You deserve a medal for your courageous botanical research in the middle of war zones, some civil.
I salute you good sir!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
March 28 2011 01:50 GMT
#9
You explored your ideas well. Sweet post yo
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
March 28 2011 02:26 GMT
#10
How well does xenobotany pay these days?
Administrator
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 28 2011 02:49 GMT
#11
On March 28 2011 11:26 SonuvBob wrote:
How well does xenobotany pay these days?


Probably in minerals.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 03:10:23
March 28 2011 03:10 GMT
#12
On March 28 2011 11:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 11:26 SonuvBob wrote:
How well does xenobotany pay these days?


Probably in minerals.


How much chicken and rice can 100 minerals get me on the market these days?
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
March 28 2011 03:12 GMT
#13
This is lol. Great post hahahah
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 28 2011 03:17 GMT
#14
On March 28 2011 12:10 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 11:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:26 SonuvBob wrote:
How well does xenobotany pay these days?


Probably in minerals.


How much chicken and rice can 100 minerals get me on the market these days?


Get 4 zerglings.

Keep two for reproduction.
Two for trade.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 28 2011 03:21 GMT
#15
On March 28 2011 12:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 12:10 Entropic wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:26 SonuvBob wrote:
How well does xenobotany pay these days?


Probably in minerals.


How much chicken and rice can 100 minerals get me on the market these days?


Get 4 zerglings.

Keep two for reproduction.
Two for trade.

I just thought of a horrible Rule 34 for Zergling mating.

Then again, it wasn't so bad of a vision since I've seen many nature documentaries in my day.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 03:27:03
March 28 2011 03:26 GMT
#16
On March 28 2011 12:21 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 12:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 28 2011 12:10 Entropic wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On March 28 2011 11:26 SonuvBob wrote:
How well does xenobotany pay these days?


Probably in minerals.


How much chicken and rice can 100 minerals get me on the market these days?


Get 4 zerglings.

Keep two for reproduction.
Two for trade.

I just thought of a horrible Rule 34 for Zergling mating.

Then again, it wasn't so bad of a vision since I've seen many nature documentaries in my day.


I just wiki'd Zergling farming:

Due to a pair of Zerglings originating from the same larvae, it is often condoned and against certain religion to use those two same lings two reproduce as their rate of successful reproduction deteriorate with each passing generation. One would claim this is due to their biological glands called the Incestation Pit, however recent research shows that it is due to the chemical imbalances of the chromosomes set by the Queen's "inject larvae" innate ability that passes after every 100 creep tide-out.

Zergling Farmers tend to be rare due to one's inability to properly tame, control and/or select a specific zergling even from an aerial point of view when those zerglings mature into the layman termed: "Speedling" deriving from the metabolic boost structure that creates flightless wings for the ling.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
March 28 2011 03:27 GMT
#17
On March 28 2011 08:58 SirJolt wrote:
pitcher plant

i had no clue victreebels actually existed
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
March 28 2011 06:09 GMT
#18
5/5

Very cool, and I can tell you put a lot of effort into this. Great blog.
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4002 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 10:11:55
March 28 2011 09:56 GMT
#19
On March 28 2011 11:26 SonuvBob wrote:
How well does xenobotany pay these days?


Since you're one of the only people to actually ask a question, I'll answer as honestly as I can: It's not what it used to be.

In the fifties all you really had to do was say,

"I think space is full (relative to the general vacuum, you understand) of microscopic spores that seed life on other planets beginning with basic mosses and funguses as part of a vast panspermia-style project."


Bam, before you know it you'd have a lab, a nice juicy research grant and hot (possibly scientist) women draped all over your ferrari. Now it doesn't seem to matter what I say anymore, people are tight with the funding.

I do have high hopes for a paper I'm writing on how dispersed dendritic structures along cave floors are responsible for a mild photoelectric response elicited from the bioluminescent fronds, whose photophores (and possibly chromataphores?) draw in simple organisms with the possibilities of a rave or perhaps a Daft Punk concert.

[image loading]
Fig. 4: Dendritic sensors highlighted, bare anatomy of fibrous frond diagram.

We'll have to see how well the academy responds to my audacious theories.
Moderator@SirJolt
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32044 Posts
March 28 2011 13:37 GMT
#20
ahahahah this was actually kind of cool
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL: ProLeague
18:00
Bracket Stage: Day 1
StRyKeR vs MadiNho
Cross vs UltrA
TT1 vs JDConan
Bonyth vs Sziky
ZZZero.O226
Liquipedia
CSO Contender
17:00
#42
CSOeSports10
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Bellum Gens Elite2612
IndyStarCraft 323
CosmosSc2 164
Rex 133
ProTech91
MindelVK 50
ROOTCatZ 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19888
ZZZero.O 235
Dewaltoss 88
soO 29
Terrorterran 20
Rock 15
Dota 2
Gorgc8676
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Grubby2591
Dendi1313
Counter-Strike
fl0m6889
olofmeister2628
rGuardiaN103
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang04568
Mew2King66
Chillindude34
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu505
Khaldor230
Other Games
tarik_tv35362
gofns13258
summit1g5769
FrodaN2812
B2W.Neo593
Pyrionflax107
KnowMe59
QueenE38
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4283
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 1710
Other Games
gamesdonequick537
BasetradeTV98
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings88
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 137
• EnkiAlexander 103
• Adnapsc2 16
• Hupsaiya 10
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21224
• Ler124
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur566
Other Games
• imaqtpie1442
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 6m
SOOP Global
7h 6m
Creator vs Rogue
Cure vs Classic
SOOP
13h 6m
Classic vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 6m
AllThingsProtoss
15h 6m
Fire Grow Cup
19h 6m
BSL: ProLeague
22h 6m
HBO vs Doodle
spx vs Tech
DragOn vs Hawk
Dewalt vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
1d 4h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
GSL Code S
3 days
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL Code S
4 days
herO vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL Code S
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Cheesadelphia
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.