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I don't really like laptops 
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5/5
better price = desktop
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United States24670 Posts
When to get a laptop and when to get a desktop is an important issue that often doesn't get addressed correctly. I've always had a desktop at home and only a laptop in addition to my desktop, if at all. So many people buy laptops and then never use them for the main purpose they were designed...
Some people really do take advantage of the portability of laptops, and for them I don't fault you at all for getting a laptop.
Seriously consider a desktop before buying a laptop always!
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I recommend that people buy and Eee PC and a gaming desktop. Cheapest and the best for all functions.
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I agree, desktops are much better if you're oriented to gaming. Although, with most of TL being college students, they need the portability to move between classes and places, and they want to have some sort of gaming machine along with it.
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United States24670 Posts
On July 26 2009 04:15 Phelix wrote:
I agree, desktops are much better if you're oriented to gaming. Although, with most of TL being college students, they need the portability to move between classes and places, and they want to have some sort of gaming machine along with it.
I'd be interested to see what percentage of college students who get a laptop so they can supposedly use it like that, actually use it like that.
Furthermore, of the people who use laptops to go from class to class, what percent of them use the laptop to aid in their learning, and what percent use it to browse tl while the lecturer is talking?
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On July 26 2009 04:16 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 04:15 Phelix wrote:
I agree, desktops are much better if you're oriented to gaming. Although, with most of TL being college students, they need the portability to move between classes and places, and they want to have some sort of gaming machine along with it. I'd be interested to see what percentage of college students who get a laptop so they can supposedly use it like that, actually use it like that. Furthermore, of the people who use laptops to go from class to class, what percent of them use the laptop to aid in their learning, and what percent use it to browse tl while the lecturer is talking?
I agree with the second part. Laptops have been almost useless for my learning. It's just convenient to carry around everywhere (libraries, different residences, living room lol)
I'm not a big gamer (plays a bunch but don't care about having the highest settings) so the performance disadvantage isn't that big for me.
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United States22883 Posts
Another (more minor) consideration is that I leave my computer on all the time and desktops are very noisy and produce a lot of heat. I don't take my laptop that often, but I do it enough to feel satisfied with my purchase.
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Personally, I use a desktop in college because I don't want a laptop, too lazy to search to find the best one, and for some extra gaming power. My desktop is still going strong after 4 years of use.
Micronesia, I agree that a lot of students use laptops in class as a distraction, and not use it for lectures. A lot of my professors used their syllabus to dictate a "laptop down" policy. Laptops are great for starting a small LAN party, and doing research in a group when the computer labs are full, and also for moving purposes, where you do not have to find a friend with a car/movers to move your stuff at the end of the year.
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Laptops are definitely convenient and useful as a student.
Desktops beat the shit out of laptops in every other regard, though.
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CA10828 Posts
i have a laptop because my university is on the other side of the country.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On July 26 2009 04:27 PH wrote:
Laptops are definitely convenient and useful as a student.
Desktops beat the shit out of laptops in every other regard, though.
Yup. I won't be using a laptop after I graduate in all likeliness.
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i have a decent/crappy laptop for classes but also a good desktop for in my dorm/home.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Yeah OK. For college students the best option is a laptop, period. I was a desktop purist until I went to college.
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For 1.5k I could make a desktop for about 800-900 gaming quality with bigger screen! better then a 1.5k gaming laptop and buy a 500 dollar netbook that i can do all my school work on. Infact it's what i do. I drag my tiny netbook around and do all my work on there and play on my desktop. Division of labor not as convenient as shoving all your stuff on one thing Yes but it's not that hard to do.
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I never took my laptop anywhere in college. It's close to 7 years old now and I needed a new computer, so I got a desktop. Definitely the right decision there, wish I'd had one for the past 3 years lol.
I think I've taken my laptop to class all of about five times in three years, and I haven't once actually used it in class (brought it as a backup plan in case I needed it to show a presentation). I can understand taking notes on a laptop (easier to search at least), but I don't like it myself.
It's nice to have a laptop, but honestly all I can see myself doing on my laptop now is browsing the internet and maybe word processing....
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i have a laptop cuz i can't lug around a big desktop to my friends house for a quick lan party or take it to school.
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Bear in mind that a $300 EEPC can run Starcraft easily. If you use a desktop for most of your gaming, you can still carry that little bastard to lan parties.
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Just get a better sized case. Like a LAN box and use uATX it's not hard to make your computer portable. Unless "gaming" made you weak and scrony. Fuck i drag around my CoolerMaster HAF case with like 40 pounds of equipment in it witha 24" monitor strapped to the side.
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On July 26 2009 04:22 Jibba wrote:
Another (more minor) consideration is that I leave my computer on all the time and desktops are very noisy and produce a lot of heat. I don't take my laptop that often, but I do it enough to feel satisfied with my purchase.
You're doing something wrong then=). Invest in a good casing and efficient cooling.
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Kau
Canada3500 Posts
On July 26 2009 04:16 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 04:15 Phelix wrote:
I agree, desktops are much better if you're oriented to gaming. Although, with most of TL being college students, they need the portability to move between classes and places, and they want to have some sort of gaming machine along with it. I'd be interested to see what percentage of college students who get a laptop so they can supposedly use it like that, actually use it like that. Furthermore, of the people who use laptops to go from class to class, what percent of them use the laptop to aid in their learning, and what percent use it to browse tl while the lecturer is talking?
I used to sit in the front of the class and stream sc so that all the people behind me would fail. It didn't work too well though, as I barely paid any attention either. Although it could have arguably made the average lower so I really did better than I would have otherwise :D
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I lol'd reading this. Excellent. I have one of those 3,000$ Macbook Pros you speak of. I take it to class and melt face with it, sup?
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On July 26 2009 05:38 Jopz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 04:22 Jibba wrote:
Another (more minor) consideration is that I leave my computer on all the time and desktops are very noisy and produce a lot of heat. I don't take my laptop that often, but I do it enough to feel satisfied with my purchase. You're doing something wrong then=). Invest in a good casing and efficient cooling.
VS the laptop that is very noisy and produces a lot of heat...you know that heat that makes your hands feel like they are on fire over the keyboard
Except there is something wrong there. Desktops can be made silent. Laptops cant really.
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On July 26 2009 05:28 Severedevil wrote:
Bear in mind that a $300 EEPC can run Starcraft easily. If you use a desktop for most of your gaming, you can still carry that little bastard to lan parties.
Do they run wc3 too?
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ahah nice blog 
gaming = desktop hands down. my laptop is mainly for school ect
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United States22883 Posts
On July 26 2009 05:47 Saddened Izzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 05:38 Jopz wrote:On July 26 2009 04:22 Jibba wrote:
Another (more minor) consideration is that I leave my computer on all the time and desktops are very noisy and produce a lot of heat. I don't take my laptop that often, but I do it enough to feel satisfied with my purchase. You're doing something wrong then=). Invest in a good casing and efficient cooling. VS the laptop that is very noisy and produces a lot of heat...you know that heat that makes your hands feel like they are on fire over the keyboard Except there is something wrong there. Desktops can be made silent. Laptops cant really. What kind of laptop have you used? My laptop is near silent and runs cooler than any PC I've built.
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Korea (South)11577 Posts
i jus bought a refurbished $440 computer. Blows my 7 year old $2,000 computer out of the water. so much faster, over 10x the amount of harddrive space, 4x the amount of RAM, a faster graphics card, and so much more.
I hate how technology gets so much better so quickly...
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United States24670 Posts
On July 26 2009 06:04 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i jus bought a refurbished $440 computer. Blows my 7 year old $2,000 computer out of the water. so much faster, over 10x the amount of harddrive space, 4x the amount of RAM, a faster graphics card, and so much more.
I hate how technology gets so much better so quickly...
Funny you say this... I mean yeah it's frustrating but advancement is obviously good! I don't want to be stuck with comparable technology to my 697 celeron with 256 MB Ram, 20 gig HD, and shitty grahpics!
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On July 26 2009 05:58 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 05:47 Saddened Izzy wrote:On July 26 2009 05:38 Jopz wrote:On July 26 2009 04:22 Jibba wrote:
Another (more minor) consideration is that I leave my computer on all the time and desktops are very noisy and produce a lot of heat. I don't take my laptop that often, but I do it enough to feel satisfied with my purchase. You're doing something wrong then=). Invest in a good casing and efficient cooling. VS the laptop that is very noisy and produces a lot of heat...you know that heat that makes your hands feel like they are on fire over the keyboard Except there is something wrong there. Desktops can be made silent. Laptops cant really. What kind of laptop have you used? My laptop is near silent and runs cooler than any PC I've built.
I refurbished a friends old laptop brought it up to something i can use it's an old dell 14" sold it to me for 200 dollars invested 500 dollars on new parts keyboard etc and got a decent laptop for 700. It's pretty quiet and cool
But under like load for 30 mins certain parts of it get hot to the touch and the fan is quite noisy.
Compared to my desktop that runs all low rpm fans which i can't even hear. Unless i stick my face right up against the computer.
I believe you can have a quiet ish laptop but the heat is right next to you on your lap or in your hands. That doesn't go away in any laptop with a gaming quality gpu.
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On July 26 2009 06:07 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 06:04 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i jus bought a refurbished $440 computer. Blows my 7 year old $2,000 computer out of the water. so much faster, over 10x the amount of harddrive space, 4x the amount of RAM, a faster graphics card, and so much more.
I hate how technology gets so much better so quickly... Funny you say this... I mean yeah it's frustrating but advancement is obviously good! I don't want to be stuck with comparable technology to my 697 celeron with 256 MB Ram, 20 gig HD, and shitty grahpics!
Even though I do not use it anymore, I have a computer with a Pentium 1 Processor, 32 MB RAM, 1.1 GB HD, and plug-ins that modern keyboards/mouses/monitors won't accept. Only games that I ran on it were Red Alert 95, and Starcraft!
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United States24670 Posts
On July 26 2009 06:13 Phelix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 06:07 micronesia wrote:On July 26 2009 06:04 CaucasianAsian wrote:
i jus bought a refurbished $440 computer. Blows my 7 year old $2,000 computer out of the water. so much faster, over 10x the amount of harddrive space, 4x the amount of RAM, a faster graphics card, and so much more.
I hate how technology gets so much better so quickly... Funny you say this... I mean yeah it's frustrating but advancement is obviously good! I don't want to be stuck with comparable technology to my 697 celeron with 256 MB Ram, 20 gig HD, and shitty grahpics! Even though I do not use it anymore, I have a computer with a Pentium 1 Processor, 32 MB RAM, 1.1 GB HD, and plug-ins that modern keyboards/mouses/monitors won't accept. Only games that I ran on it were Red Alert 95, and Starcraft!
Hahaha I have an old Texas Instruments Laptop (100 Mhz) that just barely was able to run starcraft in single player mode. I had no decent way to get it online either XD
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On July 26 2009 04:15 Durak wrote:
I recommend that people buy and Eee PC and a gaming desktop. Cheapest and the best for all functions.
THIS.
For the price of a laptop that will play Starcraft 2 comfortably, you can get a desktop that plays Starcraft 2 comfortably and an eee. This is what I've done. I have both power and portability, just not in the same machine. This is fine, as I don't really need those two things at the same time.
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On July 26 2009 05:44 selboN wrote:
I lol'd reading this. Excellent. I have one of those 3,000$ Macbook Pros you speak of. I take it to class and melt face with it, sup?
Enjoy spending $3000 on what would as a desktop pc be 700-800 USD.
Or as a laptop would be in the 1500 USD range.
OEM Mac's suck, the price is huge. OSX itself isn't so bad though =\.
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On July 26 2009 05:44 selboN wrote:
I lol'd reading this. Excellent. I have one of those 3,000$ Macbook Pros you speak of. I take it to class and melt face with it, sup?
LOL
Hope you didn't convince your parents you actually needed it T.T
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i like having a laptop just for the space saving ness of it
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United States22883 Posts
On July 26 2009 06:11 Saddened Izzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2009 05:58 Jibba wrote:On July 26 2009 05:47 Saddened Izzy wrote:On July 26 2009 05:38 Jopz wrote:On July 26 2009 04:22 Jibba wrote:
Another (more minor) consideration is that I leave my computer on all the time and desktops are very noisy and produce a lot of heat. I don't take my laptop that often, but I do it enough to feel satisfied with my purchase. You're doing something wrong then=). Invest in a good casing and efficient cooling. VS the laptop that is very noisy and produces a lot of heat...you know that heat that makes your hands feel like they are on fire over the keyboard Except there is something wrong there. Desktops can be made silent. Laptops cant really. What kind of laptop have you used? My laptop is near silent and runs cooler than any PC I've built. I refurbished a friends old laptop brought it up to something i can use it's an old dell 14" sold it to me for 200 dollars invested 500 dollars on new parts keyboard etc and got a decent laptop for 700. It's pretty quiet and cool But under like load for 30 mins certain parts of it get hot to the touch and the fan is quite noisy. Compared to my desktop that runs all low rpm fans which i can't even hear. Unless i stick my face right up against the computer. I believe you can have a quiet ish laptop but the heat is right next to you on your lap or in your hands. That doesn't go away in any laptop with a gaming quality gpu.
That's bad engineering (which Dell is known for.) I've got a 8800GTS and the GPU reaches 55~ max during gaming, but the wrist area is never more than tepid and you don't feel it in the keyboard at all.
I'd have to price it out, but if I were buying a new computer I can't say for sure that I'd definitely go Netbook + Desktop, although it's very likely. Price would really be the deciding factor, not the weight/lack of power that most people knock gaming laptops for. If there were one around 1k or less with adequate specs, I'd probably go for that since the desktop/netbook combo will cost around 900.
And battery life is the most overrated rating on laptops, imo. 3 hours is more than enough, because I don't know a single class room/business room/library area that doesn't have enough outlets.
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Agreed with this blog. There are only few reasons, when you should get a good laptop for gaming:
A. You/your parents can poop gold
or
B. You really need the mobility. I travel a lot between my apartment at university and home, so a laptop to take with me is really what I am looking for. Not to mention that running Eclipse on any netbook would suck bigtime, so I wouldn't be able to do my job at university
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