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shotz
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States122 Posts
July 24 2009 18:16 GMT
#1
I've been a TeamLiquid lurker for almost three years now.

I finally made an account, first to thank the Small Vod Thread dudes for their efforts to get us the games we love.

I haven't played Starcraft in about a year and a half, and have no desire to go back. Starcraft II does not interest me.

What keeps me on this site for so many hours during the day is the personality of its posters. Rekrul is by far my favorite poster. His posts ooze personality. Up until TL, I hadn't realized personality could be demonstrated on the internet.

I do not participate in any other forums. I use the internet mainly for research, work and making money. I use it to keep up with the news. I do NOT use it to make friends. I do NOT use it to connect with people. I do NOT use it to make jokes, to laugh, to be myself--to demonstrate a personality.

But the members of TL do. And I applaud them for that. My respect goes out to you.

*
the cat within
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
July 24 2009 18:17 GMT
#2
Tell us more of your observations about notable people besides Rekrul. It's always more fun to hear the opinion of someone detached/uninvolved.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
shotz
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 18:34:19
July 24 2009 18:31 GMT
#3
Konadora -- relatively new (at least from what I have noticed). Such a sweetheart. Sensitive. Lovely. Hard-working. Don't watch your stream but thanks for the translations.

Clazziquai - Hate the band. Hate your music taste. Still, to each their own and maybe I'm just being stubborn.

NeverGG - I never understood photography, until I saw your pictures of progamers. Then, I checked out your gallery and saw some flowers. Fantastic. My girlfriend's into photography too. Secretly, I think you're much better.

Some dude named SuperArc - Not funny. Relax a little bit. Nobody's throwing matches. You know this, obviously. But every community needs an nitpicking pedantic. I thank you.

Off the top of my head... I'm not really into who posts what, so I can't really remember.

By the way... some of the writing in the blog section is fucking fantastic.
the cat within
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 24 2009 18:41 GMT
#4
I like incontrol the best
he doesnt make that many threads though T.T
Sullifam
yoofor
Profile Joined December 2007
United States143 Posts
July 24 2009 18:45 GMT
#5
and I like all Hot_Bid's articles. Pure awesomeness. Thanks for all the joy you guys brought (and keep bringing) to this forum.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 24 2009 19:14 GMT
#6
Will have to say that reading Rekrul's old shit was awesome. Progaming Gossip a few years back was pretty epic and helped connect and bridge progamers to us regular people.

Over the years, the site's changed quite a bit. TLPD is awesome btw. And the dedication of writers/translators/photographers/all the others that contribute that I've left out is simply incredible and helps make TL an awesome community.

Except for those trolls who need to get the fuck out and take a chill pill at times.
God Bless
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 24 2009 19:16 GMT
#7
I think I lurked for 4-5 years
No I'm never serious.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 24 2009 19:26 GMT
#8
This is kind of an awkward thread, lol.
Hello
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
July 24 2009 19:36 GMT
#9
Now that you've stopped lurking, it's time to form your own tl.net personality ^^
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 24 2009 19:37 GMT
#10
RaGe and Chill are my favourite posters mainly because chill's posts are always so smartass lol. And RaGe's are so informative
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 19:48 GMT
#11
You applaud people for something they do but you refuse to try and do the same? I feel an inferiority complex within you, along with potential social awkwardness. Let it go, just post.
Peace~
shotz
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 19:53:11
July 24 2009 19:51 GMT
#12
On July 25 2009 04:48 fanatacist wrote:
You applaud people for something they do but you refuse to try and do the same? I feel an inferiority complex within you, along with potential social awkwardness. Let it go, just post.


Psychiatry is a respected profession. It requires a college degree and years of experience to do well. Where is your office? I'd like to stop by.

On July 25 2009 04:36 poilord wrote:
Now that you've stopped lurking, it's time to form your own tl.net personality ^^


precisely
the cat within
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 20:07 GMT
#13
On July 25 2009 04:51 shotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 04:48 fanatacist wrote:
You applaud people for something they do but you refuse to try and do the same? I feel an inferiority complex within you, along with potential social awkwardness. Let it go, just post.


Psychiatry is a respected profession. It requires a college degree and years of experience to do well. Where is your office? I'd like to stop by.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 04:36 poilord wrote:
Now that you've stopped lurking, it's time to form your own tl.net personality ^^


precisely

Sarcasm is a simple method. It makes you seem intelligent, or at least more intelligent than the person you are directing the sarcasm to. It allows you to shrug off the actual content of the post without having to respond directly. You make good use of sarcasm here, making you like every other typical asshole on the internet. Before you try again, I am not pretending that I am not one either.
Peace~
shotz
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States122 Posts
July 24 2009 20:15 GMT
#14
On July 25 2009 05:07 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 04:51 shotz wrote:
On July 25 2009 04:48 fanatacist wrote:
You applaud people for something they do but you refuse to try and do the same? I feel an inferiority complex within you, along with potential social awkwardness. Let it go, just post.


Psychiatry is a respected profession. It requires a college degree and years of experience to do well. Where is your office? I'd like to stop by.

On July 25 2009 04:36 poilord wrote:
Now that you've stopped lurking, it's time to form your own tl.net personality ^^


precisely

Sarcasm is a simple method. It makes you seem intelligent, or at least more intelligent than the person you are directing the sarcasm to. It allows you to shrug off the actual content of the post without having to respond directly. You make good use of sarcasm here, making you like every other typical asshole on the internet. Before you try again, I am not pretending that I am not one either.


Sorry. Here's where my lack of experience on posting shit on the internet reveals itself.

1.I was commending the people of TL for their ability to exude personality on the internet.
2. You tell me I have an inferiority complex for applauding ppl for doing that, and not doing it myself.
3. I tell you sarcastically to stop being a living room psychiatrist.
4.You tell me my sarcasm is just me trying to avoid confrontation. And that I'm an asshole.
5. I lay what just happened out for you.
the cat within
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
July 24 2009 20:18 GMT
#15
I like you.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 24 2009 20:20 GMT
#16
On July 25 2009 03:41 ghostWriter wrote:
I like incontrol the best
he doesnt make that many threads though T.T


<3
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
July 24 2009 20:22 GMT
#17
I remember coming to TL few years ago... and seeing everything in Korean oO? I'm pretty sure site was light blue/grey and there were horses on the top...
wwww
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 20:23:28
July 24 2009 20:22 GMT
#18
Most admins are great posters.

Hot_Bid is a really nice guy and probably the funniest poster I've encountered and on top of that his serious posts are very good to.

Alot of other admins come to mind as being very good posters; Manifesto7 definitely being one of them.

Out of the blue names I really like JWD. Among other posters I appreciate are Incontrol and Travis.

Oh and Nazgul makes the best posts in the mma threads, really good solid posts.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 20:23:06
July 24 2009 20:22 GMT
#19
On July 25 2009 05:15 shotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 05:07 fanatacist wrote:
On July 25 2009 04:51 shotz wrote:
On July 25 2009 04:48 fanatacist wrote:
You applaud people for something they do but you refuse to try and do the same? I feel an inferiority complex within you, along with potential social awkwardness. Let it go, just post.


Psychiatry is a respected profession. It requires a college degree and years of experience to do well. Where is your office? I'd like to stop by.

On July 25 2009 04:36 poilord wrote:
Now that you've stopped lurking, it's time to form your own tl.net personality ^^


precisely

Sarcasm is a simple method. It makes you seem intelligent, or at least more intelligent than the person you are directing the sarcasm to. It allows you to shrug off the actual content of the post without having to respond directly. You make good use of sarcasm here, making you like every other typical asshole on the internet. Before you try again, I am not pretending that I am not one either.


Sorry. Here's where my lack of experience on posting shit on the internet reveals itself.

1.I was commending the people of TL for their ability to exude personality on the internet.
2. You tell me I have an inferiority complex for applauding ppl for doing that, and not doing it myself.
3. I tell you sarcastically to stop being a living room psychiatrist.
4.You tell me my sarcasm is just me trying to avoid confrontation. And that I'm an asshole.
5. I lay what just happened out for you.


Is this how streamed grudge matches start? :O
parasite
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
July 24 2009 20:24 GMT
#20
Happy Birthday DownMaxx!

Me, I accidentally found TL because I was searching for SC2 videos.. after that, I got hooked and started reading the awesome post made by the people.

I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
July 24 2009 20:24 GMT
#21
On July 25 2009 05:22 beetlelisk wrote:
I remember coming to TL few years ago... and seeing everything in Korean oO? I'm pretty sure site was light blue/grey and there were horses on the top...


everything in korean = no. A few posts and an pieces of an article maybe but aside from a few new tabs and gadgets it's the same old awesome tl.net
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 20:30:58
July 24 2009 20:27 GMT
#22
I lurked on TL.net forabout 2 years then I made an acc and joined the TL EVE corp. It's a blast. There's some really interesting people on tl.net and the site itself is amazing. Like you I haven't played sc in a long time. I'll take a peek at sc2 but probably stay a spectator since the community here is awesome. Whether it's blowing up space ships with the corpies or fanatically cheering and discussing games on kona's channel.

me <3 u long time tl.net
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 20:40:56
July 24 2009 20:40 GMT
#23
Yeah TL.net is a pretty baller place.

I do just want to comment that your use of the internet involves all things that are extremely boring (except TL!). The internet is one of mankind's greatest inventions ever and it has unlimited possibilities. I'd say its a shame you only use it for extremely bland things (bland in my opinion anyway).

Then again I'm a type B personality to the ultra extreme so I may be a lot different.

TL;DR: TL.net is by far the best because it isnt full of carebears.

Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 20:43:42
July 24 2009 20:43 GMT
#24
On July 25 2009 05:15 shotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 05:07 fanatacist wrote:
On July 25 2009 04:51 shotz wrote:
On July 25 2009 04:48 fanatacist wrote:
You applaud people for something they do but you refuse to try and do the same? I feel an inferiority complex within you, along with potential social awkwardness. Let it go, just post.


Psychiatry is a respected profession. It requires a college degree and years of experience to do well. Where is your office? I'd like to stop by.

On July 25 2009 04:36 poilord wrote:
Now that you've stopped lurking, it's time to form your own tl.net personality ^^


precisely

Sarcasm is a simple method. It makes you seem intelligent, or at least more intelligent than the person you are directing the sarcasm to. It allows you to shrug off the actual content of the post without having to respond directly. You make good use of sarcasm here, making you like every other typical asshole on the internet. Before you try again, I am not pretending that I am not one either.


Sorry. Here's where my lack of experience on posting shit on the internet reveals itself.

1.I was commending the people of TL for their ability to exude personality on the internet.
2. You tell me I have an inferiority complex for applauding ppl for doing that, and not doing it myself.
3. I tell you sarcastically to stop being a living room psychiatrist.
4.You tell me my sarcasm is just me trying to avoid confrontation. And that I'm an asshole.
5. I lay what just happened out for you.

1. You say that you do not enjoy StarCraft, have no desire to play StarCraft 2, and that you do NOT post on forums, make jokes, make friends.
2. Yet, you also say that you have followed TL for years.
3. This leads me to assume that you prefer to be an observer rather than a contributor. Not much of an assumption, since it is exactly what you said.
4. When you see people who observe and do not feel the urge to contribute, it logically leads you to conclude that the person in question does not deem his own opinion valuable to the conversation at hand.
5. Hence, this leads to the deduction that you have an inferiority complex, with potential social awkwardness.
6. I say this by starting my sentence with "I feel..." and my addendum starts with "with potential..." Notice how neither is conclusive, and neither claims any sort of educated authority over the issue - it's an opinion, and whether or not you choose to retaliate is your choice. Maybe you are not familiar with opinions, being an observer that does not like to share. Maybe you will think that the previous statement is another pseudo-psychiatric attack on your e-persona that you must defend.
7. Your counter of sarcasm shows hostility due to the subject matter. You don't have to be a psychiatrist to know what hostility as a response to judgment insinuates.

EDIT: There can be no showmatch since he does not play SC.
Peace~
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 24 2009 21:07 GMT
#25
I think fanatacist nailed it
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
July 24 2009 21:08 GMT
#26
kennigit is clearly the best poster on TL

I got directed here by gns.i-lammas when i asked him a strategy question on starcraft.org and he said to come here and download replays instead of reading strategy guides written by retards
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 24 2009 21:11 GMT
#27
I used to like Ilikestarcraft but he doesn't exist anymore.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 21:15 GMT
#28
On July 25 2009 06:11 FirstBorn wrote:
I used to like Ilikestarcraft but he doesn't exist anymore.

Lol everyone keeps saying that but he does still post.
Peace~
shotz
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States122 Posts
July 24 2009 21:32 GMT
#29
LOL!

I donno. Really? You think you're fucking smart?

Say! How about you read my first post again, and if you're going to analyze me by what I wrote, then you may as well actually READ what I wrote. LOL. I never said I didn't enjoy starcraft.

Dude..... you're fucking taking this way too seriously. Fine, you're smarter than me. You're cooler than me cuz ya have more "e-friends." On-line you tell the truth. It's brutally honest. When you see a guy like me with an inferiority complex you gotta point it out!

It's like poker though. Act strong, you're holding something weak.

Buddy, for future ref. don't point out other ppl's flaws. I'm sure you have plenty of your own.

THANKS
the cat within
shotz
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States122 Posts
July 24 2009 21:40 GMT
#30
On July 25 2009 05:40 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Yeah TL.net is a pretty baller place.

I do just want to comment that your use of the internet involves all things that are extremely boring (except TL!). The internet is one of mankind's greatest inventions ever and it has unlimited possibilities. I'd say its a shame you only use it for extremely bland things (bland in my opinion anyway).

Then again I'm a type B personality to the ultra extreme so I may be a lot different.

TL;DR: TL.net is by far the best because it isnt full of carebears.



Ya. It's pretty boring. I mean...... I've just always found it hard to express myself on the internet, amongst strangers. Facebook is different from TL, ya know?
the cat within
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 21:52 GMT
#31
On July 25 2009 06:32 shotz wrote:
LOL!

I donno. Really? You think you're fucking smart?

Say! How about you read my first post again, and if you're going to analyze me by what I wrote, then you may as well actually READ what I wrote. LOL. I never said I didn't enjoy starcraft.

Dude..... you're fucking taking this way too seriously. Fine, you're smarter than me. You're cooler than me cuz ya have more "e-friends." On-line you tell the truth. It's brutally honest. When you see a guy like me with an inferiority complex you gotta point it out!

It's like poker though. Act strong, you're holding something weak.

Buddy, for future ref. don't point out other ppl's flaws. I'm sure you have plenty of your own.

THANKS

Classic response.

Incredulous LOL! -> Counter-judgment instead of invalidation of my argument -> Trying to say that not playing SC is "enjoying" SC -> Fake submission to my superiority -> Moral lesson about how just because I am imperfect, I can't point out the imperfections of others.

You think every person who criticizes another does so under the impression that they themselves are flawless, superior, perfect? You think this is about having "e-friends" or being "cool"? You think it's about me pointing out your flaws in order to embarrass you? At least try to take things deeper than face value.

YOU'RE WELCOME
Peace~
shotz
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States122 Posts
July 24 2009 22:02 GMT
#32
Fanatacist:

There is no argument. If you think you are "winning" the argument that I have an inferiority complex, then you're retarded. I have lived with myself for 22 years, and I cannot say for SURE that I have an inferiority complex. You tell me, after reading ONE of my online posts, that I have an inferiority complex.

THAT is something I think is ridiculous. And that is precisely what I think is wrong with the internet.

There are many reasons for observing, rather than contributing. Surely, some ppl who feel "inferior" will not contribute. Since you love "logic," all cats love string does not mean all string love cats.

So what are you criticizing me for? Explain yourself.

THANKS
the cat within
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
July 24 2009 22:20 GMT
#33
lol

shotz, please read this and it will all make sense:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94601
444 444 444 444
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 22:22 GMT
#34
On July 25 2009 07:02 shotz wrote:
Fanatacist:

There is no argument. If you think you are "winning" the argument that I have an inferiority complex, then you're retarded. I have lived with myself for 22 years, and I cannot say for SURE that I have an inferiority complex. You tell me, after reading ONE of my online posts, that I have an inferiority complex.

THAT is something I think is ridiculous. And that is precisely what I think is wrong with the internet.

There are many reasons for observing, rather than contributing. Surely, some ppl who feel "inferior" will not contribute. Since you love "logic," all cats love string does not mean all string love cats.

So what are you criticizing me for? Explain yourself.

THANKS

There was no argument until you decided to ignore my advice of "Go out and post," simply because I tried to characterize, what in my opinion, was the underlying reason for your lack of involvement in a website you have been following for years. I already said, "You think it's about me pointing out your flaws in order to embarrass you?" Clearly your answer is yes, and you once again read things and go with your gut response without thinking about what has been said. I can tell you many things, but if I told you that in my opinion you were homosexual and a die-hard astrologist due to your post, you would probably ignore me and laugh it off. But when I say something that in my opinion makes sense, you respond with hostility. Once again that can only mean one thing.

So the problem with the internet is there are opinions that you disagree with, that you think are uninformed and false in YOUR opinion? Yea, I can see how a forum would be if you were to create one.

Your analogy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but you do have a point that there could be other reasons for observing and following a community without contribution. Although you fail to list your specific reason, I will list a few; when scientists study a group, in order to make impartial observations and deductions, they do not enter the group themselves; when people are in the presence of superiors or those that are wiser, they tend to listen instead of talk, because they are inexperienced in the current topic; people who simply do not have an opinion on the matter also observe as opposed to making an ass of themselves... There are others as well, although I am hard-pressed to find one that is likely to apply to you better than my first suggestion. Please enlighten me?
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 22:23 GMT
#35
On July 25 2009 07:20 CrimsonLotus wrote:
lol

shotz, please read this and it will all make sense:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94601

Will no one take me seriously ever again?
Peace~
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 24 2009 22:27 GMT
#36
On July 25 2009 06:15 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 06:11 FirstBorn wrote:
I used to like Ilikestarcraft but he doesn't exist anymore.

Lol everyone keeps saying that but he does still post.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82198&currentpage=8

DUN DUN
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 22:33 GMT
#37
On July 25 2009 07:27 FirstBorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 06:15 fanatacist wrote:
On July 25 2009 06:11 FirstBorn wrote:
I used to like Ilikestarcraft but he doesn't exist anymore.

Lol everyone keeps saying that but he does still post.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82198&currentpage=8

DUN DUN

Yea that's what I'm talking about.
Peace~
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 24 2009 22:38 GMT
#38
On July 25 2009 07:23 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 07:20 CrimsonLotus wrote:
lol

shotz, please read this and it will all make sense:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94601

Will no one take me seriously ever again?

Believe me, the alternative to thinking you're joking is much more insulting :X
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 22:41 GMT
#39
On July 25 2009 07:38 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2009 07:23 fanatacist wrote:
On July 25 2009 07:20 CrimsonLotus wrote:
lol

shotz, please read this and it will all make sense:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94601

Will no one take me seriously ever again?

Believe me, the alternative to thinking you're joking is much more insulting :X

You're ignoring the fact that I am now burdened with the reputation of being the joker, when in fact I have very serious and important things to say, like the discussion in this blog. Do you know how that feels? DO YA?
Peace~
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 22:48:47
July 24 2009 22:45 GMT
#40
Well, the problem is that the serious things you have to say are absurd.

I say you just accept your role as forum troll and embrace the opportunities it brings.

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Actually I have the exact opposite problem. I'm taken very seriously when I'm only joking.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
July 24 2009 22:50 GMT
#41
On July 25 2009 07:45 Chef wrote:
Well, the problem is that the serious things you have to say are absurd.

I say you just accept your role as forum troll and embrace the opportunities it brings.

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Actually I have the exact opposite problem. I'm taken very seriously when I'm only joking.

How dare you insult me like this.
Peace~
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 07 2009 22:40 GMT
#42
lol welcome to TL (late welcome).

Everyone's got their own music taste so I can't blame you. tehehe :D
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 08 2009 00:14 GMT
#43
I nominate you best blog poster of the day, just because your posts have personality and it's amusing to read the stuff in your term paper thread while trying to study. ^^
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