• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:18
CET 15:18
KST 23:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)10Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1804 users

IdrA, Artosis, Fakesteve and more

Blogs > pangshai
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
July 06 2009 11:08 GMT
#1
So the singapore TL outing concluded like 2 days ago, and if you wanna see pics and read about the awesomeness of fakesteve and how the outing went, check out konadora's blog and generic's post in general as well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=96999
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=96959

To start off, I arrived late so I missed konadora announcing to the rest who the special guests were going to be. Anyway, so after the whole fiasco with not being able to find a lanshop (PC bang), we finally got settled and started playing some games, nothing out of the ordinary. This was until the arrival of fakesteve, idra and artosis. And my thoughts were instantly, OH MY GOD. these were people i only got to watch on vods on youtube, the sort of "admire from afar and never expect to meet them" kinda thing. they are, in their own right, celebrities of the SC world, mostly anyone who follows the foreigner scene would know artosis and idra, and here they were standing just 5m away.

fakesteve, (and i'm not just saying this cause he's a mod and i'm trying to suck up to him), is one of the coolest dudes i've met. he's a fascinating, charismatic and endearing (not sure if this is the right word to use) individual. there was this point after dinner where he came up to me and kona, and started telling us about how he once lost his wallet at clarke quay (an area with a tonne of pubs), and how the next day some guy called him up at his office and offered to return his wallet. if it were anyone else telling that story, i'd be like "wtf, why am i listening to your life story, blog that shit man", but with fakesteve, he just made it so much more entrancing, to the extent where i was actually interested in finding out what'd happen to his wallet. its like you just wanna listen to him (endearing?).

Anyway, idra and artosis quickly got seated and started playing a TvT on destination, if you wanna watch that check out the videos in generic terran's post. i wouldn't attempt to post my thoughts on the game cause my knowledge of tvt is abyssimal, but basically artosis opened with 2 fac vult, idra opened 1 fac CC, defended against the vults, artosis tried to set up a contain across the bridges, idra killed it with dropships and took another expansion quickly, eventually taking the game with expo advantage.

afterwards, everyone continued playing (after taking a break to watch artosis and idra), and i watched idra FPview against some rather noob zerg player (he left before i could catch his name). both games, idra would scout a very low unit count for zerg (just cause he was noob), and because of the low unit count, he'd prepare for a drop that he thought was coming. anyway, i didn't want idra to leave with such a poor impression of singaporean gamers, and seeing i was probably the best singaporean player there (jukebox, singapore's top player was absent), i challenged him to a game. here was a progamer who was willing to play, why in the world would i not jump at the opportunity. other people queue for ages, trying to get a game against him on TLattack and all i had to do was ask. its not every day that a random nobody like me gets to play against america's top players.

--mostly ingame stuff--

naturally i create python, a map that i have a decent amount of practice on, but more importantly, a map that idra doesn't play 13 hours a day on. i was hoping that with that advantage and with him being unused to the keyboard and mouse, i might have some chance. some the first game plays out mostly standard except that i pick off his first tank despite him walling and me opening 1 gate ob. i scout his 1 fac CC and i do the standard double expo. i make the first mistake of leaving goons at his choke instead of defending at my expoes, so his first 4 speed vultures that he moves out with nets a pretty good amount of probes (like 8 or so).

you know the feeling when you're playing against an A grade player and you kinda just sit behind the computer and wonder what just hit you. thats what i experienced on the first vulture raid. when his vultures came to my nat, i transferred my probes almost immediately, and had like 4 goons firing at his 4 vultures. he ran up my ramp and i sent my maynarding probes to surround, and he microed his vultures out of that, and killed more probes. if i had been controlling those 4 vultures, i'd have probably gotten 2 kills before those vultures met their end.

anyway, long story short, i stop most of the other raids, minimising the damage, but he moves out with a whole bunch of tanks to defend third, i have a 4th warping in, am 20 supply ahead, and lots of gateways and a shuttle full of templars. he makes his first aggressive move, unsieging about 3/4s of his tanks and pushing them foward. i engage, flying my shuttle in to drop the templars and storm only to find out i forgot storm (lol). i end up killing most of his tanks anyway, not that it matters cause that was only 1/2 or so of his tanks, and i retreat with roughly 2 groups of goons. he reinforces and i engage again (which on hindsight was a rather silly decision), and my army gets toasted. GG game 1 (and idra did say gg).

game 2 on python again, i open 2 gate ob cause i scout a starport just as my probe is leaving his base. i was hoping that he'd cancel it since i saw it though. he also sees my fast robo. he pushes with FD, killing 1 goon. and i'm expecting drop to come any time, but it doesn't, so i'm kinda certain that he's cancelled the starport and opted for a faster CC. i move my 5 goons out to go poke at his expo, and just as i do so, the drop comes, my goons return, but lots of probes die anyway. i stick in it, but the game is over already. turns out idra actually got a wraith first cause he thought i was going reaver. therefore the drop was late and fooled me into thinking that he'd cancelled. kinda silly since my goons wouldn't have done any damage anyway and i could've sent an ob to take a look first.

third game was against artosis. after the game he told me that he thought he was just playing against some random noob and didn't expect me to play so well. i felt so good about myself. anyway the game opened with him doing 1 fac CC at 22 supply~. with my scouting probe still doing circles in his main, i scouted his build and went for 1 gate range double expo, securing an early economic lead, with my third base warping in roughly at the time when his nat got set up. however, he does a 1tank2vult drop slightly after that really fucked me up for a pretty long time. after finally stopping it, my ob sees only 4 facs, 1 tank at his nat sieged up and 2 at his cliff, and i go for a bulldogish nat bust thing only to find out that his facs are actually rallied to the top of his ramp out of sight of my ob, and i retreat with heavy losses.

at this point he's like 20 supply ahead and has taken the island, and i've taken a 4th base. we both go macro mode, with him pushing out with about 160 supply. we're about even in supply now, and i basically try to pick off vultures and force him to siege and unsiege his tanks. in the meantime i do a 4zeal drop on his island. it seems that the drop took his attention off his push for a while to defend his island, allowing me to run my army up beside his tanks, and we end up trading armies. my macro slips a bit and i accumulate about 2K minerals here and my damned arbiter tribunal refuses to start.

his main and nat are mostly about dry, and i've still got nat, third and 4th running, and i start a 5th base. unfortunately, he sneaks 4 tanks to my 4th base, mines up the entire area, and i know it'll be impossible to take out without losing a whole bunch of units, so i exchange it for his min only. but soon after my nat and 3rd dry up, and with no expansion (5th cancelled cause of his tanks), my situation is getting dire. his island is still running full capacity, and he builds up a huge army with 3/2 upgrades, pushes out and rapes my army. GG.

--end of ingame stuff--

so after these games, we go for a meal of chicken rice. i was beside konadora and opposite eugene and we had an interesting conversation on when we joined teamliquid, when we started watching/playing sc, what was the most influential games on us. (eugene's was nada gorush, luna YATGK MSL. kona's was boxer oov requiem ever2004 finals. i'm still rather undecided, but for the moment i'll go with oov reach mercury game 5 ever semifinals).

after the meal a group of us went drinking. (idra, fakesteve, kona, jingguo, eugene, redstorm, artosis, me, thestoryteller, and htennek. i was probably the weakest drinker amongst them, excluding jingguo who's 17). so anyway this is what i remember from a slightly fuzzy memory of the whole thing.

there was this point of time when we were talking about konadora's lack of masturbation, and artosis was giving him tips on how to masturbate. (put your hand around the shaft, and do this -pumping motion-). fakesteve and jingguo were some distance away, fakesteve taking a smoke. when he got back, he was like "jingguo just threw up. when you're 17 and you drink enough to throw up thats something." and red_storm told him something like "hey, you missed an interesting conversation on konadora's masturbation habits" and fakesteve replied "i did something better. i witnessed the evolution of a child".

other things we spoke about were idra's games at ESWC, and how he just went up on stage grinning after he'd won, thinking "wow that was an easy 4 grand", and artosis being all bitter,"you don't deserve 4 grand for beating tossgirl and white ra." pretty funny moment there. also SC2 and the first wave beta, teamliquid, rekrul, other korean players, recent games.

we left at rougly 3am when the place was closing. my thoughts were that idra's a pretty quiet guy (for a white guy anyway, although obviously us asians spoke a lot less than he did). artosis is really funny, and fakesteve is just, well, you have to meet him.

and to end off, here are the replays of the games i spoke of.
+ Show Spoiler [idra vs pangshai 1] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [idra vs pangshai 2] +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [artosis vs pangshai] +
[image loading]
[/QUOTE]


***
#1 midas fan
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
July 06 2009 11:17 GMT
#2
GREAT READ
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
July 06 2009 11:21 GMT
#3
i remember when watching your game vs artosis when you tried that nat break i was thinking in my head WHAT R U DOING WHAT R U DOING WHAT R U DOING! But than i realized i was watching with both vision and you couldnt have known he was rallying his units up his ramp.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
July 06 2009 11:32 GMT
#4
my first time throwing up from alcohol ever lol.
aka myheronoob
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 06 2009 11:37 GMT
#5
you did it like a man though
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
July 06 2009 11:52 GMT
#6
On July 06 2009 20:37 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
you did it like a man though

for rela. I just feel bad for the guy who has to clean that up though.
aka myheronoob
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 06 2009 11:54 GMT
#7
nobody has to clean it up, it was pretty much nothing but beer and you barfed in the dirt and it rained later that night
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
July 06 2009 12:00 GMT
#8
hey steve, do you get a discount if you buy razer products? i've been inspired to buy a razer keyboard in hopes of improving my play.
#1 midas fan
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 06 2009 12:01 GMT
#9
nah i just carry stuff from the office to my house (no i wont do that for you)

go buy a salmosa its amazin' mouse
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
July 06 2009 12:04 GMT
#10
lol, i'm fine with my diamondback, but my keyboard is killing me.
#1 midas fan
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 06 2009 12:11 GMT
#11
i wish i went for the outing,didnt expect artosis and idra would be coming T_T
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
July 06 2009 12:11 GMT
#12
I need to get a good keyboard too, my right control and alt keys are not functioning..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
July 06 2009 12:13 GMT
#13
On July 06 2009 20:54 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nobody has to clean it up, it was pretty much nothing but beer and you barfed in the dirt and it rained later that night

ah thats nice.
aka myheronoob
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
July 06 2009 12:17 GMT
#14
Already missing the night :'(
POGGERS
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
July 06 2009 12:19 GMT
#15
On July 06 2009 21:11 justiceknight wrote:
i wish i went for the outing,didnt expect artosis and idra would be coming T_T

you knew fakesteve was going though. ^^
#1 midas fan
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 06 2009 13:06 GMT
#16
sounds like an amazing time :o
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
July 06 2009 13:08 GMT
#17
On July 06 2009 21:01 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
nah i just carry stuff from the office to my house (no i wont do that for you)

go buy a salmosa its amazin' mouse


No, why would I want you to carry the stuff from your office to your house? How about carrying the stuff from your office to MY house?
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 06 2009 15:10 GMT
#18
Epic blog is epic. Thanks for the reps :D
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 06 2009 17:52 GMT
#19
nice blog
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
July 06 2009 18:23 GMT
#20
wah looks like singaporean sc skill level needs a boost T.T
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
14:00
Group A
ByuN vs Percival
Percival vs Rogue
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
Classic vs Rogue
IndyStarCraft 45
LiquipediaDiscussion
RongYI Cup
11:00
Qualifier 1
WardiTV1326
TKL 280
Rex150
3DClanTV 51
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 280
Rex 150
IndyStarCraft 45
Railgan 17
SC2Nice 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 51766
Horang2 2975
Shuttle 1791
Mini 1297
Stork 800
Larva 776
ZerO 699
EffOrt 648
Soma 535
Light 429
[ Show more ]
Zeus 383
Rush 307
ggaemo 288
firebathero 221
hero 205
Leta 165
BeSt 136
Last 124
Pusan 118
Hyun 113
Sharp 110
Barracks 92
Mind 51
sorry 44
Movie 33
Aegong 32
Free 31
HiyA 29
ToSsGirL 27
Terrorterran 27
yabsab 23
Sacsri 18
Bale 13
Shine 13
GoRush 7
Dota 2
Gorgc4965
qojqva2404
XcaliburYe468
ODPixel147
BananaSlamJamma107
syndereN101
Counter-Strike
byalli692
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King121
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor327
Other Games
singsing2677
B2W.Neo2291
Hui .244
DeMusliM207
ZerO(Twitch)25
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV43
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 5
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH219
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2128
• HappyZerGling57
League of Legends
• Nemesis5328
• Jankos3684
Upcoming Events
IPSL
5h 42m
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
18h 42m
Wardi Open
21h 42m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 2h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 21h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
All Star Teams
6 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-10
Big Gabe Cup #3
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.