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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 30 2009 19:06 GMT
#1
okay so my computer is making these strange noises for 3 days straight, usually i can shut it off, let it shut off for 5mins and restart it and the computer is fine without the noise. but it keeps happening so i took the casing off and cleaned the fan, fans are clean now but the sound seems to come from the power supply? (can this be?) or am i not hearing right? theres 2 fans in my computer, one is a processor, the other one is case. i cant tell which is making the noise but it does seem like the noise comes from the power supply.

when the computer was running, i stopped the fans but the sound is still there, does that mean its not my fans? (i stopped the fans by holding them in place)

intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
June 30 2009 19:12 GMT
#2
when the computer was running, i stopped the fans but the sound is still there, does that mean its not my fans? (i stopped the fans by holding them in place)

hmm...
Moderatorsloppy little slug
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
June 30 2009 19:12 GMT
#3
i think it may be your fans, have you tried stopping them to see if they are the source of the sound?
Moderatorsloppy little slug
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
June 30 2009 19:13 GMT
#4
i don't think the power supply is making the noise, because when you stop the fans the noise is still there.
Moderatorsloppy little slug
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
June 30 2009 19:14 GMT
#5
guys please don't follow my quadruple posting example, it's really bad and not tolerated around here but i really want to help this guy
Moderatorsloppy little slug
inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
June 30 2009 19:17 GMT
#6
There should be a fan in the PSU as well, try getting the dust out of it as much as possible.
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 19:19:31
June 30 2009 19:17 GMT
#7
There is also a fan in your Power Supply hehe could be that. Also i wouldn't recommend stopping your processor fan while your pc is on these things go from 50ºC to 200ºC Degrees in a few seconds if your running some hardcore programs though it your pc would probably shut down automatically to prevent this from happening but still.
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armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 19:21:26
June 30 2009 19:18 GMT
#8
Describe the noises.

It could be the fan in the PSU, try taking a vacuum to the case or something in case it's just clogged by dust.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
June 30 2009 19:25 GMT
#9
Strange noises you say?

Does it sound like an angry dog barking? Rottweiler or Chihuahua? Or, god forbid, a beagle? Oh man you're in trouble if it's a beagle.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
June 30 2009 19:26 GMT
#10
On July 01 2009 04:18 armed_ wrote:
Describe the noises.

This might be slightly somewhat helpful or something.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 30 2009 19:27 GMT
#11
On July 01 2009 04:12 intrigue wrote:
i think it may be your fans, have you tried stopping them to see if they are the source of the sound?

i held them in place but thats it, could be the cpu fan because the sound is clearly on that side.



On July 01 2009 04:17 Ziph wrote:
There is also a fan in your Power Supply hehe could be that. Also i wouldn't recommend stopping your processor fan while your pc is on these things go from 50ºC to 200ºC Degrees in a few seconds if your running some hardcore programs though it your pc would probably shut down automatically to prevent this from happening but still.


no progs were loaded.

On July 01 2009 04:18 armed_ wrote:
Describe the noises.

It could be the fan in the PSU, try taking a vacuum to the case or something in case it's just clogged by dust.

heres a video of it, i just recorded 25secs of it just now:



SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
June 30 2009 19:32 GMT
#12
Probably the PSU fan (and it probably has a temperature sensor to control the speed, which is why it's quiet at first).
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Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 19:43:45
June 30 2009 19:42 GMT
#13
Yeah I'm almost 100% sure this is your PSU fan (also because the noise still occurs when you stop your other 2 fans).I had this shit happen with my old pc (dell one), I had it get replaced.

Get a pencil or something and stop your Power Supply fan with it to test.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 30 2009 19:47 GMT
#14
the power supply is like inside this compartment, mind be hard. its weird that it does it, it doesnt do it all the time. do you guys think it is because its overheating? temps are about 70 or so.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
June 30 2009 19:51 GMT
#15
On July 01 2009 04:47 Raithed wrote:
the power supply is like inside this compartment, mind be hard. its weird that it does it, it doesnt do it all the time. do you guys think it is because its overheating? temps are about 70 or so.


lol wat? the temps inside your computer are 70 degrees? jesus, get some new case fans, thats really high... (50-60 is the point where you should be panicking)
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 20:14:45
June 30 2009 19:51 GMT
#16
On July 01 2009 04:47 Raithed wrote:
the power supply is like inside this compartment, mind be hard. its weird that it does it, it doesnt do it all the time. do you guys think it is because its overheating? temps are about 70 or so.

On July 01 2009 04:32 SonuvBob wrote:
Probably the PSU fan (and it probably has a temperature sensor to control the speed, which is why it's quiet at first).

It's not necessarily overheating, they just tend to set it so it ramps up to full speed as soon as it gets remotely hot.
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reasonOK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States49 Posts
June 30 2009 20:13 GMT
#17
The same exact thing happened on my old desktop psu fan. A temporary fix while I was waiting for my replacement psu to come in about two weeks later was the following:

*Bear in mind I'm no computer guru, but do know some basic things, so take what you will.

1) Unplugged the power, opened the case, and unscrewed the 4 screws holding the psu to the case.
2) Then unscrewed the 4 additional screws holding the fan to the psu itself.
3) If you look at the top surface of your fan, there should be a circular sticker in the middle about 2cm in diameter. Peeled off the sticker about halfway (didn't take it off completely because it needs to stick back on).
4) Put in about 1-2 drops of machine oil into the hole that the sticker was covering. I didn't have machine oil so I used grape seed oil as a substitute (I'm not sure if this is dangerous in any way, but it worked for me).
5) Put the sticker back on tightly over the hole and give the fan a few spins to get the oil mixed in.
6) Screw everything back in.

Also, I unplugged the psu from all the other hardware and completely removed it from the case so that I wouldn't accidentally drop it on the motherboard and other sensitive parts, but it's your choice if you want to detach the psu completely.

If anyone knows of any problems with this solution, feel free to chime in. Just my two cents, though. Hope it helps.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 30 2009 20:21 GMT
#18
On July 01 2009 04:51 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2009 04:47 Raithed wrote:
the power supply is like inside this compartment, mind be hard. its weird that it does it, it doesnt do it all the time. do you guys think it is because its overheating? temps are about 70 or so.

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On July 01 2009 04:32 SonuvBob wrote:
Probably the PSU fan (and it probably has a temperature sensor to control the speed, which is why it's quiet at first).

It's not necessarily overheating, they just tend to set it so it ramps up to full speed as soon as it gets remotely hot.

what i failed to mention is i just turned it on and it does it.
Bebop Berserker
Profile Joined April 2009
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 20:48:23
June 30 2009 20:47 GMT
#19
Since I'm not there I will jsut give you a guide on what I would do.

1.) take out everything that you can off your mother board and take as much as you can out of casing(including MoBo)
2.) clean the shit out of everything(dust is most likely the sidekick of a more than likeley overheating villian) also you can oil up the fans a bit.
3.) put everything back in, if it still doesn't work then try your power supply on another computer.
4.) If it is still making noise in the original but not in the other computer it would have to be a cpu overheating issue. try to get your heat sync in the right place and make sure everything is being effectively cooled.

On July 01 2009 04:32 SonuvBob wrote:
Probably the PSU fan (and it probably has a temperature sensor to control the speed, which is why it's quiet at first).


It's not necessarily overheating, they just tend to set it so it ramps up to full speed as soon as it gets remotely hot.


You don't want to leave this doing this. In worst case your cpu will melt and ruin your mobo 2.(maybe even other things on your mobo like your video card)
Whatever happens, happens.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
June 30 2009 20:48 GMT
#20
On July 01 2009 04:51 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2009 04:47 Raithed wrote:
the power supply is like inside this compartment, mind be hard. its weird that it does it, it doesnt do it all the time. do you guys think it is because its overheating? temps are about 70 or so.


lol wat? the temps inside your computer are 70 degrees? jesus, get some new case fans, thats really high... (50-60 is the point where you should be panicking)


If the temps of anything but your gfx card (even thats high) are at 70 celsius than you need to get your cooling shit straight. anything above 50 for hard drive/cores is like wtf cool asap.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
June 30 2009 21:15 GMT
#21
On July 01 2009 05:47 Bebop Berserker wrote:
You don't want to leave this doing this. In worst case your cpu will melt and ruin your mobo 2.(maybe even other things on your mobo like your video card)

Rofl. The whole thing will shut off long before it gets that hot.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 30 2009 21:49 GMT
#22
On July 01 2009 05:48 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2009 04:51 ghermination wrote:
On July 01 2009 04:47 Raithed wrote:
the power supply is like inside this compartment, mind be hard. its weird that it does it, it doesnt do it all the time. do you guys think it is because its overheating? temps are about 70 or so.


lol wat? the temps inside your computer are 70 degrees? jesus, get some new case fans, thats really high... (50-60 is the point where you should be panicking)


If the temps of anything but your gfx card (even thats high) are at 70 celsius than you need to get your cooling shit straight. anything above 50 for hard drive/cores is like wtf cool asap.



he didn't say anything about C or F, which would helpful to determine if we're worrying about the right things. If it was 70 with the case open...that's pretty hard to do, depending on what kind of load/components he has.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
July 01 2009 01:09 GMT
#23
okay i just unplugged everything and took the psu case apart, i cleaned out the fan etc, and now it sounds like... instead of a whirl.. it sounds more like its going to implode on itself. lol. guess i need replacement huh.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
July 01 2009 04:26 GMT
#24
HMMMM

maybe your PSU has finally decided that it no longer wish to serve you...

jokes aside, did you try taking it apart to check it out?
ggyo...
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
July 01 2009 20:59 GMT
#25
On July 01 2009 13:26 R3condite wrote:
HMMMM

maybe your PSU has finally decided that it no longer wish to serve you...

jokes aside, did you try taking it apart to check it out?

yes. going to add some oil into it tonight, hopefully it works.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
July 01 2009 22:20 GMT
#26
okay so i added machine oil into it, sounds MUCH better. pretty silent.
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