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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 07 2009 08:28 GMT
#41
Well ok then!
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
June 07 2009 09:59 GMT
#42
On June 07 2009 17:28 Kennigit wrote:
Well ok then!

And don't you forget it!
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 07 2009 10:23 GMT
#43
On June 07 2009 14:27 EsX_Raptor wrote:
I don't see teamliquid as some sort of house for senior citizens. I've always seen it as a prison, pretty much like that of the series Prison Break; there is disorder from time to time and it won't be a big of a deal unless it is something really serious. Otherwise there's always room for the users to be creative, make stuff out of nothing (like making hand made knives), get important shit from exterior sources (like smuggling drugs into prison) there will always be some corrupted mod (which hands important stuff to a selected group of users which he trusts, most likely the vets) and as always, bash on the fish and teach them the rules of the game. This is why old posters are favored, they already for a part on the big family.

lol prison break. <3
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 11:04:40
June 07 2009 11:04 GMT
#44
On June 07 2009 16:39 Osmoses wrote:
Look what free speech did to the real world. Kim Kardashian (whothefuckareyouian?) does a paris and sexes someone on TV, Klu Klux Klan, papparazis lying in bushes shoving their cameras as far up the celebrity vagina as they can possibly reach, puke-porn, Jerry Springer, etc

Too much of anything is not good, and that includes freedom.

Besides the KKK (lawl I love that name), I don't see how any of what you mentioned relates to free speech..

Freedom also means you are free to ignore any of the things you listed.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 07 2009 11:21 GMT
#45
If it weren't for free speech I wouldn't have to walk into a convenience store and see celebrity vaginas in the newsstand, and if I was really lucky I might not even know such a thing as puke-porn existed because the degenerates who perpetrated it would have been shut down. I would be a much happier person if shit like Jerry Springer with his "I married a lesbian hebrew transsexual" topics didn't effing exist.

I'm a grumpy old man of 25 years.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
June 07 2009 11:44 GMT
#46
On June 07 2009 20:21 Osmoses wrote:
If it weren't for free speech I wouldn't have to walk into a convenience store and see celebrity vaginas in the newsstand, and if I was really lucky I might not even know such a thing as puke-porn existed because the degenerates who perpetrated it would have been shut down. I would be a much happier person if shit like Jerry Springer with his "I married a lesbian hebrew transsexual" topics didn't effing exist.

I'm a grumpy old man of 25 years.

If you lived in an authoritarian government, whose ideology was built on puke porn and talk-shows for blacks and rednecks, you would have no other choice but to watch that while being forced to play with your plastic celebrity vagina replication.

I am also 25, and I know where you are coming from with this, but freedom is something you would not be able to live without, believe me.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 07 2009 12:01 GMT
#47
On June 07 2009 15:25 Kennigit wrote:
Maybe i argued with Idra about God.

right of passage imo
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24668 Posts
June 07 2009 14:54 GMT
#48
On June 07 2009 14:49 datscilly wrote:
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On June 07 2009 14:43 micronesia wrote:
The concept of 'free speech' is not applicable to teamliquid as that only involves government.

Any argument that you make about how mods should loosen up, or whatever, should be made with the goal of making tl more enjoyable... not obeying some pre-written rules about what should or shouldn't be allowed or encouraged. In some cases you did that, and in others you didn't.


I disagree. The internet, one could argue, was made for free speech.

No, one could not argue that, because you are completely missing the point. Free speech prevents the government from censoring what we say. Although we all have a lot of respect for the admins/mods, they are not the government. They are not required to offer the users of tl 'free speech'.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32049 Posts
June 07 2009 15:38 GMT
#49
If you go to someone's house and shit on their rug, you expect to get punched in the face. This is no different. Not a hard concept. Pay the fucking bills if you want free speech.

God, these threads are so fucking annoying
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
June 07 2009 16:55 GMT
#50
I like TL and how its run <3
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 18:00:17
June 07 2009 17:58 GMT
#51
sometimes they power trip

actually i dont even know how to describe my situation.

i get banned from teh strat section. I didnt realize i was posting sht until AFTER i get a permanent ban. I try to apoligize and add that I was NEVER FUCKING NOTIFIED, NOT ONE WARNING. Then I get a mssg like "if the quality is obviously that bad, then i dont give warnings". I understand bad quality, but not even a warning? I didnt want to drag the situation further because i really dont care anymore...

I like how TL is run, but i agree sometimes it can be very uptight.
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 07 2009 18:13 GMT
#52
Dunno, I do agree that sometimes they should probably issue a warning beforehand and say "stop being a fucking idiot" before pulling something like the banhammer. But I do agree on the moderation of forums. It keeps the quality level of posts up and it just makes browsing all that much more enjoyable. Who the hell wants to read what trolls post and other bullshit?
God Bless
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32049 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 14:12:25
June 08 2009 14:10 GMT
#53
On June 08 2009 02:58 Sonu wrote:
sometimes they power trip

actually i dont even know how to describe my situation.

i get banned from teh strat section. I didnt realize i was posting sht until AFTER i get a permanent ban. I try to apoligize and add that I was NEVER FUCKING NOTIFIED, NOT ONE WARNING. Then I get a mssg like "if the quality is obviously that bad, then i dont give warnings". I understand bad quality, but not even a warning? I didnt want to drag the situation further because i really dont care anymore...

I like how TL is run, but i agree sometimes it can be very uptight.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=Sonu&t=c&f=10&u=&gb=date

If you think you deserve the right to post comments in the strat forum after some of these gems, you truly deserve that ban. Your comments in the first four or five threads from the bottom up are horrible. D players shouldn't be giving out tips, especially shit like countering lurkerling with REAVERS?

For everyone in general, if you're unsure of why you got temped, that means you're not thinking when you're posting and you probably deserve it.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 08 2009 16:35 GMT
#54
if i ban you or send you a warning you did something very bad & should be ashamed of yourself
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24668 Posts
June 08 2009 17:23 GMT
#55
On June 09 2009 01:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
if i ban you or send you a warning you did something very bad & should be ashamed of yourself

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=113#2246

ooa
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 08 2009 17:29 GMT
#56
YOU WERE INSOLENT
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
June 08 2009 17:37 GMT
#57
if i think you did something very bad, you did something very bad & should be ashamed of yourself
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 19:39:30
June 08 2009 19:31 GMT
#58
more active forum is more important than a thoughtful forum.

right... i guess trolling forums > smart and polite forums huh?

if u can't add any more substance to the topic matter then you shouldn't post and if posting in such a instance would be wat u consider an active forum i would not want to have to have anything to do w/ such forums

It's true that the intention of a pm is that it's supposed to be private, but if the receiver does tell other people, it's not like one can or should be able to stop them. It's like giving someone a secret threat in a dark alley and punishing him again if he tries to speak out.

friggin dumb analogy...
so i guess revealing PM's w/o the consent of other person is like a computer takes in ur credit card number and all ur private info and displays it on the scrns in times sq rite?

freedom of speech doesn't mean u should be a douche nor does it mean that you have the freedom to release other people's private messages

btw if and when u get banned the msgs r put up in the ban thread (correct me if i'm wrong)

On June 07 2009 14:49 datscilly wrote:
It seems like most people here favor the level of moderation that goes on in tl while acknowledging that it's harsh (and that's good, they say). However, have you been on the receiving end of it? The pm I read (out of context) seemed inappropriately harsh, and I though there could have been a better way to deal with it rather than to lose a member.

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On June 07 2009 14:43 micronesia wrote:
The concept of 'free speech' is not applicable to teamliquid as that only involves government.

Any argument that you make about how mods should loosen up, or whatever, should be made with the goal of making tl more enjoyable... not obeying some pre-written rules about what should or shouldn't be allowed or encouraged. In some cases you did that, and in others you didn't.


I disagree. The internet, one could argue, was made for free speech.

also ever heard of china? haha
ggyo...
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