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omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 03:59:35
May 15 2009 03:53 GMT
#1
I was 6-0 this morning on iccup. I started doing more 2 hatch lair>> spire >> expand >> den style. Was going great until... i played my first 'orean smurf of the day. he did a pretty cool bunker rush/proxy fac float. he has 280 apm.

i gotta say that although i titled this cheese. i love this kind of play and applaud his efforts.
i chatted him up after the game and his high rank is ....A
seems like a nice guy and says his favorite gamer is bisu.

REPLAY: korean smurf bunker rush raxx float

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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
May 15 2009 04:07 GMT
#2
pretty cool of you to chat up for a smurfing korean A rank who cheesed you since that is pretty much every iccup gripe in one player
good manners bra'
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 04:55:45
May 15 2009 04:11 GMT
#3
well, i dont play BW to win. I play to get better at BW. meeting your elders is a good idea.
next i played another korean smurf ZvZ.. got creamed. and left when I knew it was over. He wsped me "u r manner gamer. GG" I responded, "thanks. wanna teach me?" then like 5 minutes later he responded "i no speak englis.. cant teach u"
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 15 2009 04:13 GMT
#4
Man, D players meet so many A ranked players in the D ladder. But I don't get to play any A ranked players in the C ranks.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 15 2009 04:23 GMT
#5
On May 15 2009 13:13 T.O.P. wrote:
Man, D players meet so many A ranked players in the D ladder. But I don't get to play any A ranked players in the C ranks.

Im D+ right now and more than 50% of my opponents have been koreans and many of them have insanely good stats. Where are the damn D+ players!
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
May 15 2009 04:25 GMT
#6
This is kinda irrelevant but this guy is B- /B, he has about 50% win ratio at C+/B- level.
snorlax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States755 Posts
May 15 2009 04:44 GMT
#7
On May 15 2009 13:11 omninmo wrote:
well, i dont play BW to win. I play to get better at BW. meeting your elders is a good idea.
next i played another korean smurf ZvZ.. got creamed. and left when I knew it was over. He wsped me "u r manner gamer. GG" I responded, "thanks. wanna teach me?" no reply t_T

I hope to one day be as well mannered as you I salute you
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 15 2009 04:52 GMT
#8
On May 15 2009 13:44 Space[Fright] wrote:
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On May 15 2009 13:11 omninmo wrote:
well, i dont play BW to win. I play to get better at BW. meeting your elders is a good idea.
next i played another korean smurf ZvZ.. got creamed. and left when I knew it was over. He wsped me "u r manner gamer. GG" I responded, "thanks. wanna teach me?" no reply t_T

I hope to one day be as well mannered as you I salute you


me too

congrats... i rage often.

its like a ticking timebomb.

ill explode without warning on anyone.
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
May 15 2009 04:57 GMT
#9
god damn man everytime i get cheesed i get really angry and call the other person a cheesing nigger/noob/arab etc. and quit

props to you for being so manner
im gay
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 05:15:56
May 15 2009 04:57 GMT
#10
then i played a canadian protoss.. owned him hard with 5 hatch hydra... he left without GG. so i wsped him "hey man, bad manner gets you no where" he responds "are you fucking retarded. its not even a pro game. get real"...
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
May 15 2009 04:58 GMT
#11
today i was playing dota with these fucking noobs

i was fucking lvl 9 and then they wer lvl 5 and all of them were like "omfg you noobass, 1-4 stop feeding" and i was like WHAT THE FUCK YOU GUYS SUCK ASS AT DOTA OMFG THIS IS A LADDER ROOM GTFO OMASDASO:IFJS:IOFDJIAS fucking noobs at dota. -____________________________________________-

fucking kills my day

/rant
thx for letting me use this blog to rant
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
May 15 2009 05:01 GMT
#12
Reminded me of when I got fed up by all the proxy 2gate/barracks D+ players. Proxy hatched a Protoss on Neo Medusa on his high ground. Killed his main and built a hatchery there too, since he killed all the drones in my main. Was great. Never thought it'd work.
I know where my towel is.
Gray[FH
Profile Joined January 2009
152 Posts
May 15 2009 05:11 GMT
#13
On May 15 2009 13:58 OmgIRok wrote:
today i was playing dota with these fucking noobs

i was fucking lvl 9 and then they wer lvl 5 and all of them were like "omfg you noobass, 1-4 stop feeding" and i was like WHAT THE FUCK YOU GUYS SUCK ASS AT DOTA OMFG THIS IS A LADDER ROOM GTFO OMASDASO:IFJS:IOFDJIAS fucking noobs at dota. -____________________________________________-

fucking kills my day

/rant
thx for letting me use this blog to rant

lol haha
<3
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
May 15 2009 05:30 GMT
#14
hahaha @ dota

but ya, D rank is full of smurfing koreans @_@
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 15 2009 05:30 GMT
#15
On May 15 2009 13:57 omninmo wrote:
then i played a canadian protoss.. owned him hard with 5 hatch hydra... he left without GG. so i wsped him "hey man, bad manner gets you no where" he responds "are you fucking retarded. its not even a pro game. get real"...

I have to agree with him; not "gg"ing isn't considered BM by everyone, it is a personal preference/choice. You are the one being BM by whispering him after. The "fucking retarded" part isn't exactly a great response but he's right that it isn't a pro game. There is no rule saying you need to for fear of getting disqualified or anything. It just kind of wastes you own time. Personally I grin and feel pretty proud of myself when they rage and quit or don't "gg" or anything.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
peanutter
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia165 Posts
May 15 2009 05:41 GMT
#16
BM is plug pulling
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 06:07:10
May 15 2009 05:53 GMT
#17
On May 15 2009 14:30 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 13:57 omninmo wrote:
then i played a canadian protoss.. owned him hard with 5 hatch hydra... he left without GG. so i wsped him "hey man, bad manner gets you no where" he responds "are you fucking retarded. its not even a pro game. get real"...

I have to agree with him; not "gg"ing isn't considered BM by everyone, it is a personal preference/choice. You are the one being BM by whispering him after. The "fucking retarded" part isn't exactly a great response but he's right that it isn't a pro game. There is no rule saying you need to for fear of getting disqualified or anything. It just kind of wastes you own time. Personally I grin and feel pretty proud of myself when they rage and quit or don't "gg" or anything.

yea, i thought about whether to wisper him or not.. but it is bad mannered to rage instead of GG. GG is an acknowledgment that you have been defeated fairly. GG says, "you have slain me". To not GG is to suggest that my victory was undeserved. i wsped him to be like "you dude. its cool. not GGing will only allow the dark side to fester in you"
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 06:38:21
May 15 2009 06:22 GMT
#18
just owned zVp

this korean smurf has 350 apm

so during the game i knew he was korean cuz i wasnt sure his race. so i asked "u protoss?"
he responded, "ok"
i was like, "ok?"
"ok"
"you are protoss?"
"ok"

so after getting raped i go back into the D channel and spam for games. i get wispered "go?"
i am playing a p again.
so im like "are you korean" just for shits and giggles.
they respond" ok"
so i said, "you're the guy who just raped me arent u?"
"ok" he says
i promptly left. first minute so draw...

he logged off and got on another account then sought me ought. that's cold
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 15 2009 06:34 GMT
#19
On May 15 2009 14:53 omninmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 14:30 Grobyc wrote:
On May 15 2009 13:57 omninmo wrote:
then i played a canadian protoss.. owned him hard with 5 hatch hydra... he left without GG. so i wsped him "hey man, bad manner gets you no where" he responds "are you fucking retarded. its not even a pro game. get real"...

I have to agree with him; not "gg"ing isn't considered BM by everyone, it is a personal preference/choice. You are the one being BM by whispering him after. The "fucking retarded" part isn't exactly a great response but he's right that it isn't a pro game. There is no rule saying you need to for fear of getting disqualified or anything. It just kind of wastes you own time. Personally I grin and feel pretty proud of myself when they rage and quit or don't "gg" or anything.

yea, i thought about whether to wisper him or not.. but it is bad mannered to rage instead of GG. GG is an acknowledgment that you have been defeated fairly. GG says, "you have slain me". To not GG is to suggest that my victory was undeserved. i wsped him to be like "you dude. its cool. not GGing will only allow the dark side to fester in you"

How do you know he raged when he didn't GG? Did he cuss you out before he quit or something?
Personally I only GG if I think my opponent did earn it. I've accidentally canceled my first barracks at 90% completion before. My opponent didn't really earn that, I just fucked up on my own. If my opponent actually earned an advantage with skills I would GG but if I forgot to bring my medics TvZ or went to build a vessel but something was in the way when I built my sci facility and it cost me the game, I wouldn't GG. I wouldn't say outloud "fuck your lucky I forgot ____, that's only why you won" and I wouldn't cuss him or anything but I would just leave silently.

If you whisper him that it only makes him rage more and provokes him into harassing you and starting pointless arguments over the internet. If you think not GG'ing 100% of the time is BM you should keep it to yourself.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
May 15 2009 06:37 GMT
#20
On May 15 2009 15:34 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 14:53 omninmo wrote:
On May 15 2009 14:30 Grobyc wrote:
On May 15 2009 13:57 omninmo wrote:
then i played a canadian protoss.. owned him hard with 5 hatch hydra... he left without GG. so i wsped him "hey man, bad manner gets you no where" he responds "are you fucking retarded. its not even a pro game. get real"...

I have to agree with him; not "gg"ing isn't considered BM by everyone, it is a personal preference/choice. You are the one being BM by whispering him after. The "fucking retarded" part isn't exactly a great response but he's right that it isn't a pro game. There is no rule saying you need to for fear of getting disqualified or anything. It just kind of wastes you own time. Personally I grin and feel pretty proud of myself when they rage and quit or don't "gg" or anything.

yea, i thought about whether to wisper him or not.. but it is bad mannered to rage instead of GG. GG is an acknowledgment that you have been defeated fairly. GG says, "you have slain me". To not GG is to suggest that my victory was undeserved. i wsped him to be like "you dude. its cool. not GGing will only allow the dark side to fester in you"

How do you know he raged when he didn't GG? Did he cuss you out before he quit or something?
Personally I only GG if I think my opponent did earn it. I've accidentally canceled my first barracks at 90% completion before. My opponent didn't really earn that, I just fucked up on my own. If my opponent actually earned an advantage with skills I would GG but if I forgot to bring my medics TvZ or went to build a vessel but something was in the way when I built my sci facility and it cost me the game, I wouldn't GG. I wouldn't say outloud "fuck your lucky I forgot ____, that's only why you won" and I wouldn't cuss him or anything but I would just leave silently.

If you whisper him that it only makes him rage more and provokes him into harassing you and starting pointless arguments over the internet. If you think not GG'ing 100% of the time is BM you should keep it to yourself.


yea, i agree. GG only if you earn it.. this game was 20 minutes long. i sniped his 'sairs with scourge. massed 3 control groups of hydras, dodged storms. picked off cannons and then 1a2a3a ftw. i earned it. he should give me 'props.. mwahahahah
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
May 15 2009 06:48 GMT
#21
Its officially "korean hours"
time to go play with chinese...
s_86
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 07:05:49
May 15 2009 07:05 GMT
#22
I always gg before leaving, and always return gg after winning. I am really good at saying gg.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 15 2009 07:06 GMT
#23
On May 15 2009 15:22 omninmo wrote:
just owned zVp

this korean smurf has 350 apm

so during the game i knew he was korean cuz i wasnt sure his race. so i asked "u protoss?"
he responded, "ok"
i was like, "ok?"
"ok"
"you are protoss?"
"ok"

so after getting raped i go back into the D channel and spam for games. i get wispered "go?"
i am playing a p again.
so im like "are you korean" just for shits and giggles.
they respond" ok"
so i said, "you're the guy who just raped me arent u?"
"ok" he says
i promptly left. first minute so draw...

he logged off and got on another account then sought me ought. that's cold


dude, when a korean says 'ok' it means 'yes'. nothing else.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
TheFlashyOne
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 08:31:02
May 15 2009 08:16 GMT
#24
On May 15 2009 16:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 15:22 omninmo wrote:
just owned zVp

this korean smurf has 350 apm

so during the game i knew he was korean cuz i wasnt sure his race. so i asked "u protoss?"
he responded, "ok"
i was like, "ok?"
"ok"
"you are protoss?"
"ok"

so after getting raped i go back into the D channel and spam for games. i get wispered "go?"
i am playing a p again.
so im like "are you korean" just for shits and giggles.
they respond" ok"
so i said, "you're the guy who just raped me arent u?"
"ok" he says
i promptly left. first minute so draw...

he logged off and got on another account then sought me ought. that's cold


dude, when a korean says 'ok' it means 'yes'. nothing else.


good point steve-o. here's my additional analysis.

Part 1

when you asked, and i quote; "you're the guy who just raped me arent u?"

he answered "ok" meaning he's korean. now since he's korean, the likelihood that he actually understood the part "you're the guy who just raped me arent u?" is very very slim. whereas the likelihood that he just answered "ok" as his customary one-size-fits-all type of reply just to avoid a conversation is very very high. basically he was just another random korean, not the guy you had just played.

Part 2 of my analysis;

assuming the korean did understand what you were saying; the likelihood that he took his precious time to actually log off and create a new iccup account, or even just switch accounts, having in mind a plan to disguise his identify and then trick you into playing him as a smurf and then proceeded to truthfully answer "ok" to your question , meaning yes!, im that guy who just raped you! ...is very very slim.
Don't Spend your Life Dreaming, Live your Dream
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 08:49:25
May 15 2009 08:35 GMT
#25
On May 15 2009 16:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2009 15:22 omninmo wrote:
just owned zVp

this korean smurf has 350 apm

so during the game i knew he was korean cuz i wasnt sure his race. so i asked "u protoss?"
he responded, "ok"
i was like, "ok?"
"ok"
"you are protoss?"
"ok"

so after getting raped i go back into the D channel and spam for games. i get wispered "go?"
i am playing a p again.
so im like "are you korean" just for shits and giggles.
they respond" ok"
so i said, "you're the guy who just raped me arent u?"
"ok" he says
i promptly left. first minute so draw...

he logged off and got on another account then sought me ought. that's cold


dude, when a korean says 'ok' it means 'yes'. nothing else.


no shit dude
the point is he doesnt speak english except for the word OK. so i knew it was him. i could be paranoid or it really could be him trying to play me again.. doesnt really matter. just wanted to offer a rape story for catharsis.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
May 15 2009 10:04 GMT
#26
I almost never type gg when I lose.

If I am to type gg, it has to be clear to me that I got beat by someone, not that I beat myself.

I'm also very proud of my not GGing coz at least im not doing it just coz it's manners.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 11:53:27
May 15 2009 11:50 GMT
#27
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got to D+ with zerg today. I started the day around 1130 points. Mass games on Medusa.

tomorrow i will try as T to complete the D+ triumvirate.
It took me 6 months of playing like 2 games a day as P. rofail.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 15 2009 12:26 GMT
#28
On May 15 2009 20:50 omninmo wrote:
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got to D+ with zerg today. I started the day around 1130 points. Mass games on Medusa.

tomorrow i will try as T to complete the D+ triumvirate.
It took me 6 months of playing like 2 games a day as P. rofail.


I did something similar but with C.

Also looking back at my match lists, I usually played more C rank players at D then at C-, so in a way you can get better games at D if you pick people with good stats.

I find if you don't want to be raged at for smurfing low ranks (that term is pretty strange) all you have to do is slow down once you know you've won. Actual D rank players always read too much into APM.
No I'm never serious.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-15 17:47:44
May 15 2009 17:47 GMT
#29
On May 15 2009 21:26 Nytefish wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 15 2009 20:50 omninmo wrote:
match list
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[image loading]


got to D+ with zerg today. I started the day around 1130 points. Mass games on Medusa.

tomorrow i will try as T to complete the D+ triumvirate.
It took me 6 months of playing like 2 games a day as P. rofail.


I did something similar but with C.

Also looking back at my match lists, I usually played more C rank players at D then at C-, so in a way you can get better games at D if you pick people with good stats.


I find if you don't want to be raged at for smurfing low ranks (that term is pretty strange) all you have to do is slow down once you know you've won. Actual D rank players always read too much into APM.


i dont really understand what this means. also. i try not to read too much into APM but the difference between 350 apm and my 140 is astounding. in that game he had twice as many actions as i did. that is significant. 150 and 200 is no real difference and could be spam... i never spam and my eapm is usually equal to my apm minus 30 to 50. i play alot of guys with 50 or so apm more than me and the eapm is the same cuz they have like 40% redundancy according to bwRepInfo. regarding APM quantitative increases exponentially affect qualitative increase.
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