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DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
April 18 2009 05:08 GMT
#21
Also, i went nuts installing over 5 plugins trying to play flac. Almost gave up until i found out vlc can play it inherently.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
April 18 2009 05:12 GMT
#22
FLAC is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better quality. anyone who says otherwise doesnt have the ear to appreciate it. test for yourself. flacs are much larger files however.. but the difference is noticeable to anyone with a good ear.
rwong48
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States105 Posts
April 18 2009 05:18 GMT
#23
On April 18 2009 12:54 sexsexpussyhair wrote:i doubt there is noticeable difference, its like playing at 60fps and 100fps, can't be detected by human.

it so can. have you ever used a CRT with 60/75/85/100/120 Hz refresh rates? I can tell the difference between ALL of them.

100/120 Hz counterstrike FTW

(which leads to 120 Hz starcraft, which might be what they use in PL/MSL/OSL?)

as for mp3 vs flac, I'm an audiophile (not necessarily with all the gear though), and i tweak my sound heavily to have it sound exactly the way I want it.. and I still cannot tell the difference between a well-encoded 192+ kbps VBR/CBR MP3 and FLAC. i have various sets of Sennheiser headphones and earbuds.

I use Winamp with DFX on an integrated sound card (lol) and Rockbox on my Sansa with bass/treble way high (+12-16 dB each).
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
April 18 2009 05:22 GMT
#24
On April 18 2009 14:18 rwong48 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 12:54 sexsexpussyhair wrote:i doubt there is noticeable difference, its like playing at 60fps and 100fps, can't be detected by human.

it so can. have you ever used a CRT with 60/75/85/100/120 Hz refresh rates? I can tell the difference between ALL of them.

100/120 Hz counterstrike FTW

(which leads to 120 Hz starcraft, which might be what they use in PL/MSL/OSL?)

as for mp3 vs flac, I'm an audiophile (not necessarily with all the gear though), and i tweak my sound heavily to have it sound exactly the way I want it.. and I still cannot tell the difference between a well-encoded 192+ kbps VBR/CBR MP3 and FLAC. i have various sets of Sennheiser headphones and earbuds.

I use Winamp with DFX on an integrated sound card (lol) and Rockbox on my Sansa with bass/treble way high (+12-16 dB each).


I think the reason why you won't be able to is because of your setup.
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
April 18 2009 05:32 GMT
#25
use something like vlc, foobar, beatport sync for flac.
lke others said it comes down to your hardware and what your listening abilities are, as to whether the quality of encoding will matter.
foobar supports abx testing so you can see what what your limit is.
I keep stuff mostly V0 (~256kpbs variable) and i can only very rarely hear a difference between that and lossless with my equation rp21s.
The real reason to keep in lossless is so you can rerip into whatever you want at any time.
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hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
April 18 2009 05:49 GMT
#26
ogg is definitely better than mp3 right now in terms of space efficiency...

My cowon d2 supports both flac and ogg, but in a portable setup flac isn't really worth it: hp out is not that great, noisy listening environment, etc. etc.

What flac is useful for is archival purposes. You rip a cd to flac you don't have to worry about reencoding issues in the future, when you upgrade your system. It's gonna be identical quality to the original cd.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 18 2009 06:25 GMT
#27
On April 18 2009 14:12 omninmo wrote:
FLAC is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better quality. anyone who says otherwise doesnt have the ear to appreciate it. test for yourself. flacs are much larger files however.. but the difference is noticeable to anyone with a good ear.

I'm sure it is...but like everyone else has said...without the hardware to make use of that, you won't be able to tell the difference.

My hardware is bottlenecking it, and I don't have the money, nor a good reason to go out and purchase a sound system that can make use of flac.

So...
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
April 18 2009 06:27 GMT
#28
On April 18 2009 13:37 benjammin wrote:
lossless is great for certain applications, just make sure you have one of those applications (also FLAC is the best lossless format out there, despite some having fractionally better compression ratios)

if not, v0 all the way

Lol its lossless as long as it plays in terms of quality it's all the same.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
April 18 2009 06:28 GMT
#29
On April 18 2009 14:22 FirstProbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 14:18 rwong48 wrote:
On April 18 2009 12:54 sexsexpussyhair wrote:i doubt there is noticeable difference, its like playing at 60fps and 100fps, can't be detected by human.

it so can. have you ever used a CRT with 60/75/85/100/120 Hz refresh rates? I can tell the difference between ALL of them.

100/120 Hz counterstrike FTW

(which leads to 120 Hz starcraft, which might be what they use in PL/MSL/OSL?)

as for mp3 vs flac, I'm an audiophile (not necessarily with all the gear though), and i tweak my sound heavily to have it sound exactly the way I want it.. and I still cannot tell the difference between a well-encoded 192+ kbps VBR/CBR MP3 and FLAC. i have various sets of Sennheiser headphones and earbuds.

I use Winamp with DFX on an integrated sound card (lol) and Rockbox on my Sansa with bass/treble way high (+12-16 dB each).


I think the reason why you won't be able to is because of your setup.

Lol 120hz sc you do know sc doesn't acutlly display any frames over 23.793? or something like that.
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even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
April 18 2009 06:47 GMT
#30
On April 18 2009 15:27 IzzyCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 13:37 benjammin wrote:
lossless is great for certain applications, just make sure you have one of those applications (also FLAC is the best lossless format out there, despite some having fractionally better compression ratios)

if not, v0 all the way

Lol its lossless as long as it plays in terms of quality it's all the same.


uh, what?
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vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
April 18 2009 06:52 GMT
#31
If you can't hear the difference, use AAC. Some people can, some people can't. There isn't a clear-cut answer.

But seriously, for lossy codecs, AAC or even Vorbis is better than MP3.

It's kind of like comparing jpg to png. Both viewed at resolution, you probably won't notice the difference, but if you magnify them, the differences can be rather striking.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
April 18 2009 07:12 GMT
#32
On April 18 2009 15:27 IzzyCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2009 13:37 benjammin wrote:
lossless is great for certain applications, just make sure you have one of those applications (also FLAC is the best lossless format out there, despite some having fractionally better compression ratios)

if not, v0 all the way

Lol its lossless as long as it plays in terms of quality it's all the same.

I guess he means FLAC is widely supported and requires minimal CPU usage for playback.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
April 18 2009 07:14 GMT
#33
jpg would be loosy and png would be lossless in that.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
April 18 2009 07:48 GMT
#34
On April 18 2009 16:14 IzzyCraft wrote:
jpg would be loosy and png would be lossless in that.


Yeah, like MP3 is lossy and FLAC is lossless.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
April 18 2009 07:50 GMT
#35
jpg is great as long as you don't have to zoom in to the image lol
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
kartoffel
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany38 Posts
April 18 2009 07:54 GMT
#36
i don't know if it's worth to encode random pop music with flac.
i suggest encoding at least classical music with flac or if you want to build a digital archiv of all your music cd's flac would be better.
i encode all cd's in flac btw.
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PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
April 18 2009 08:13 GMT
#37
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 18 2009 08:31 GMT
#38
One question though...how do you split songs in flac or whatever?

I've DL'd many (more than a couple dozen) albums in flac format, and they come all in one big .flac file and some kind of .cue file. I can play the flac file just fine in VLC and whatnot, but it's all the tracks of the album packed together.

What am I supposed to do with that?
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xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
April 18 2009 08:50 GMT
#39
Split it? Or idk maybe the cue file can be read in Foobar as separate songs.

128 v 256/320k mp3 = obvious difference
320k v Lossless = not so much.

The only difference I can think of is in the upper spectrum of sound. If you're older, there's a chance you won't be able to hear it in the first place. Even if you CAN hear, you're going to need balls-to-the-walls expensive sound devices (nice sound card, dedicated amp, ~$200+ headphones, etc) to appreciate it.

I'm going to a headphone store tomorrow to buy my first nice headphones, hopefully =D
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
April 18 2009 09:02 GMT
#40
Way overrated imo

320kbps or v0 for me please
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