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FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
April 14 2009 22:09 GMT
#1
I've been playing ICCUP more recently in hopes to get to D+. I was very encouraged and I was doing well on a good streak. But then I started losing, and losing, and losing. I went from over 1800 points to now about 1200 points because of this losing streak.

It's so discouraging. I keep clearing my head and playing more but it's to no avail as I can't seem to win anymore. It's so frustrating.

I uploaded a couple of replays if you wanna check them out. They were randomly chosen so I don't remember the outcome. It just shows my play level currently. Any help is appreciated however I merely made this blog to vent.





replay

replay 2

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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
April 14 2009 22:15 GMT
#2
i have two accounts. If i start to streak i go on the other and fool around
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Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
April 14 2009 22:26 GMT
#3
On April 15 2009 07:15 DamageControL wrote:
i have two accounts. If i start to streak i go on the other and fool around

I have 10 and I got to clearstats YES all the time..
No no no no its not mine!
Red.Cloud
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada235 Posts
April 14 2009 22:36 GMT
#4
600 pts is not a losing streak... try droping a full rank.. then tell me what is fustarting
sexsexpussyhair
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada133 Posts
April 14 2009 22:40 GMT
#5
once i start losing, i lose alot, not a whole rank though, the best way is stop playing the more you play the more you lose not because you suck, its because your emotion and mentality are not optimal. take a break do something else come back play refreshed.
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
April 14 2009 22:44 GMT
#6
On April 15 2009 07:36 Red.Cloud wrote:
600 pts is not a losing streak... try droping a full rank.. then tell me what is fustarting


800 points now....
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
April 14 2009 22:48 GMT
#7
I watched your reps~

In the first game I think you should of used alot more mines at your natural just outside the bridges. He didnt have overlords close by, and he constantly was trying to backdoor you when you pushed.

The other main thing was your macro slipped a few times which I think costed you the game. If you would of mined up outside your choke and then pushed with your first initial tank / goliath push, he would of lost alot of troops on his way to your natural. Or he would of waited for an overlord, and that would buy you time to macro.

Combine that with not forgetting to make tanks vults and goliaths at home, and his backdoor rush would of failed horribly, and you would not of needed to return to your main with your army. Instead you could of pushed his 3rd and possibly ended the game.


Replay 2 is not file not found.
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-14 22:54:39
April 14 2009 22:51 GMT
#8
i have not watched your replays, i assume you are a zerg player?(from icon) Well i am a zerg users too. Don't get discouraged. maybe my lame story will help. I used to play starcraft back in the brood war ladder challenges days. I just returned too starcraft about 2 years ago. I imediatly started playing iccup cause i love the challenge. When i first started i struggled at D level i could maintain but not get too d+ after a few months i was able to make D+ with ease and hold it. Then some time later i made C- but could not hold it just make it. And now almost 2 years later since that D I have made it to C 2 times recently i have not had enough time 2 play last season i almost made C again i was 1 win away but due to time constraints i missed it cause the season ended. This year i have been playing far better then any year and i feel very confident i have the ability to make C+ no questions asked. (If i can just find the time)

I also want to point out not that it matters that much but when i started my apm was about 100 and eapm about 60 now my apm averages 225 and eapm 120. So the point of all this is not the get discouraged. you need to focus on your game and make sure your build orders that you use are working effecently. Most importantly i think the thing that holds alot of lower level players back (D-C- ish) is there ability to macro. Never stop building units. Every idle larva you have hurts you really bad because it is units you could have had but now lost once you have 3 idle larva.

On a final note also iccup has gotten much harder in my opinion. The skill level on starcraft players as a whole has gone up tremendously plus there are more and more players returning to the game due to sc2. when i first started iccup players online averaged about 400-500. This saturday i checked to site 2 see over 2000 players. So once again the point is stick with it don't give up watch all your replays and analyze what you did wrong. and don't froget to macro macro macro, almost every game i win vs a lesser player is simply because i just way out produce them. Even if i fucked up in every other way at the very least i just had sooooooo many more units and expansions then him.

Good luck improving if your not a zerg then i guess ignore the zerg stuff but at the same time alot of the stuff i said still applies. There are many things you can do 2 improve your game but i think mostly focus on macro. If you want to practice game with me some time msg me on iccup msg me my id is Hooktits. GLGGLLGLGLGLGLG GGGGGGGGg don't give up!
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
April 14 2009 22:56 GMT
#9
On April 15 2009 07:51 HatchetWound wrote:
i have not watched your replays, i assume you are a zerg player?(from icon)

Which Zerg unit is that exactly ?
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
April 14 2009 22:59 GMT
#10
game1;
bad scouting
no vessel
overmins en masse (like 3k/1k while mech vs z..)
bad micro

take a break if u r on losing streak.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 14 2009 22:59 GMT
#11
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
April 14 2009 23:02 GMT
#12
Im having no problem winning at all. In fact i just went on a career high win streak of 30 wins in a row over 3 accounts. But i did lose to ZoW that was 2-18 at the time. Fail
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
April 14 2009 23:03 GMT
#13
hey if ya want m getting on icc now if ya wanna play a practice game ill give you some pointers
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
April 14 2009 23:22 GMT
#14
I remember I've had days where I play 20 games in a day and lose 18-19

General losing doesn't make me all that mad, it's when I make some stupid error that I get really raged and start punching things.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
April 14 2009 23:33 GMT
#15
On April 15 2009 08:22 -orb- wrote:
I remember I've had days where I play 20 games in a day and lose 18-19

General losing doesn't make me all that mad, it's when I make some stupid error that I get really raged and start punching things.


yeah like when I see a zerg coming with 6 lings cuz he 9pooled, and I go to build my 2nd marine already angry that 6 lings are coming....and it says 18/18 SUPPLY!!! with no supply depot being built yet sigh...sucks
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
April 15 2009 00:19 GMT
#16
On April 15 2009 08:33 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2009 08:22 -orb- wrote:
I remember I've had days where I play 20 games in a day and lose 18-19

General losing doesn't make me all that mad, it's when I make some stupid error that I get really raged and start punching things.


yeah like when I see a zerg coming with 6 lings cuz he 9pooled, and I go to build my 2nd marine already angry that 6 lings are coming....and it says 18/18 SUPPLY!!! with no supply depot being built yet sigh...sucks



It does suck...
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
April 15 2009 00:23 GMT
#17
freedom.. thats why i have a smurf account. Its mainly an account i dont care about (if i win or loose) and i am actually doing better with it than on my main account :D... perhaps its your mental stress of your name going under that is damning you, as it has damned me in the past.
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
April 15 2009 00:23 GMT
#18
On April 15 2009 07:15 DamageControL wrote:
i have two accounts. If i start to streak i go on the other and fool around


Sounds like a terrible idea if you actually want to get better at the game. Being insecure of your losses by smurfing and/or fooling around is a great way to stagnate in mediocrity.
theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
April 15 2009 00:29 GMT
#19
starcraft is one game where losing is acceptable since it happens so damn much. on the bright side, you are slowly getting better as you learn from your mistakes and we all have those losing streaks every once in awhile anyway so don't worry about it.

On April 15 2009 09:23 Tyrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2009 07:15 DamageControL wrote:
i have two accounts. If i start to streak i go on the other and fool around


Sounds like a terrible idea if you actually want to get better at the game. Being insecure of your losses by smurfing and/or fooling around is a great way to stagnate in mediocrity.


Good point, but at least it helps you like the game for what it is, instead of quitting like some of my friends did since they lose so much
정명훈 화이팅!~
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
April 15 2009 01:21 GMT
#20
I lost about 10 games in a row at C vs foreigners when i was about to reach C+ some weeks ago, i dropped to C-. I wanted to reset stats, but theres really no point to it, now i just reached B-.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
April 15 2009 02:24 GMT
#21
i was at 2800 and i hit a losing streak after i didn't play for about a week..

now down to 1500 i think

OMFG
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
April 15 2009 02:28 GMT
#22
I JUST HIT D+!! :D :D
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inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
April 15 2009 02:37 GMT
#23
yea i cant win a game to save my life at C+, doesnt help that the map is destination. it makes you want to stop playing but you gotta just keep truckin...if you aren't enjoying it then u prolly shouldnt play iccup. i enjoy the struggle of losing multiple times in korean time.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
April 15 2009 02:58 GMT
#24
On April 15 2009 10:21 Cloud wrote:
I lost about 10 games in a row at C vs foreigners when i was about to reach C+ some weeks ago, i dropped to C-. I wanted to reset stats, but theres really no point to it, now i just reached B-.

I did exact same thing, but I changed race at C rank to zerg.. I changed account
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
April 15 2009 03:02 GMT
#25
last season i got like 5400, then dropped all the way to 4000 then climbed back to 4300...... thats PAINFUL.... T_T
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
candlejackisgonn
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States159 Posts
April 15 2009 03:05 GMT
#26
It's all about the mindset. A couple months ago I was taking the game much to seriously and raging so much every time I played. Now I've sort of stopped giving a fuck about Starcraft since I've moved on to playing SFIV in tournaments so I see Starcraft as just a game now. I've been playing much more relaxed and am comfortable with all the races at D level at least. I'm still in D but I've gotten much more of an understanding of the game just playing it like a game, not something competitive. I'm sure I'll hit D+ this season just playing for fun.
theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
April 15 2009 03:44 GMT
#27
I want to rant about iCCup all of a sudden too but I don't feel the need to make a new blog about it so I'll add it on here.

WHY THE HELL IS EVERY D+ FAGGOT I PLAY ACTUALLY A C-/C USER GOD DAMN IT
EVERY SINGLE FCKING GAME I LOSE HAPPENS TO BE AGAINST A C-/C USER IF I LOOK ON ICCUP.COM

I can't seem to find any legit D+ users these days. I keep winning 1-2 and then losing another 3-4 and dropping back to the 1900s. Then I beat another D user and go back up and then lose to C- and go back down. God damn it. And fuck reavers.
정명훈 화이팅!~
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
April 15 2009 19:51 GMT
#28
On April 15 2009 12:44 theobsessed1 wrote:
I want to rant about iCCup all of a sudden too but I don't feel the need to make a new blog about it so I'll add it on here.

WHY THE HELL IS EVERY D+ FAGGOT I PLAY ACTUALLY A C-/C USER GOD DAMN IT
EVERY SINGLE FCKING GAME I LOSE HAPPENS TO BE AGAINST A C-/C USER IF I LOOK ON ICCUP.COM

I can't seem to find any legit D+ users these days. I keep winning 1-2 and then losing another 3-4 and dropping back to the 1900s. Then I beat another D user and go back up and then lose to C- and go back down. God damn it. And fuck reavers.

C- don't magically teleport there, they have to go through D+
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
April 15 2009 20:23 GMT
#29
The only thing you can do is stop taking yourself so seriously and just play for fun :O We all get angry over repeated losses on iCCup once in awhile, but I think if you can step back and realise you're just playing a game, it's not so bad.

I think the main reason iCCup gets people angry, is because you hardly ever get to play a long series of games with one person... So it feels like you're being judged on one bad game, when you know if you just got to play again, you wouldn't make the same mistake and you could prove you're not that bad. Then that gets into your head and you can't focus the next games you play.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
April 15 2009 20:25 GMT
#30
On April 16 2009 04:51 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2009 12:44 theobsessed1 wrote:
I want to rant about iCCup all of a sudden too but I don't feel the need to make a new blog about it so I'll add it on here.

WHY THE HELL IS EVERY D+ FAGGOT I PLAY ACTUALLY A C-/C USER GOD DAMN IT
EVERY SINGLE FCKING GAME I LOSE HAPPENS TO BE AGAINST A C-/C USER IF I LOOK ON ICCUP.COM

I can't seem to find any legit D+ users these days. I keep winning 1-2 and then losing another 3-4 and dropping back to the 1900s. Then I beat another D user and go back up and then lose to C- and go back down. God damn it. And fuck reavers.

C- don't magically teleport there, they have to go through D+


Ya but it makes me feel that some of them are resetting their stats ever so often just for the record -_-; So I end up playing them again and again and again
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