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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On April 05 2009 10:37 Frits wrote:
you should know better than to post terrible strawman arguments
there's black humor and then there's actual pictures of genocide
like, in what galaxy would this picture be comparable with the OP
frits, he trivializes and laughs at a great injustice and human tragedy, that also has racial undertones (actually given the context of the quote he posts is outright racist) and all for the sake of humor - so I made use of the same elements to make offensive "humor" of bad taste; the photo of the starving child is as real a tragedy as the genocide photo, both attempt to make the death of a specific people, a "laughing" matter; u can call that humor, I can't sorry
- if u think that's a strawman argument I can't help you but do check the spoiler, you might find some pointers.
- As I said earlier I don't actually care if you or others don't understand but you did ask! I actually only care that he does. His heritage is Armenian, he knows far better than to post such crass crap.
And no, tl.net is not goatse.
+ Show Spoiler +On a side note, On October 14 2008 06:27 Frits wrote:
Actually the only argument you've used is that strawman. Unless "3 early bases is cool" counts as an argument. On October 14 2008 06:32 Frits wrote: You're the one who made the strawman, I thought you were admitting that when you quoted me but you're actually accusing me? My mind is blown. On November 04 2008 11:41 Frits wrote: And LOL I hope you're kidding about me using that strawman On December 23 2008 13:07 Frits wrote: How is that a strawman, it's just using logical reasoning to point out that your idea has huge shortcomings. On December 23 2008 12:40 Frits wrote:
dude.... fuuuuuuck you are so stupid. You keep proposing your idiotic idea's but when you can apply it to something else you come up with some bullshit and call it a strawman, which it clearly isn't. You are one shortsighted idiot, wow.go away On January 17 2009 04:03 Frits wrote: I don't really see how that is a strawman because I genuinely believe that's true and all the evidence I see points towards it... Also you say "I don't like China" when all that I dislike is their government, that's 2 strawmen. there is many more were those come from lol.. - I can't help but notice that your infatuation with the words "strawman/men" seems to give you even more pleasure than arguing for the sake of arguing or insulting people. I have also noticed that you often fail to understand the arguments of others and thus end up being accused of using strawmen arguments yourself or you end up accusing others of using them, usually followed by endless pointless arguments that never achieve understanding on your part. - You also almost invariably end up or start by insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you. Now considering this forum is full of youth and you view yourself knowledgeable in psychology, child abuse and whatnot why don't you do some much needed introspection and try to improve yourself? You are still relatively young yourself and thus there is hope for improvement. I on the other hand, am way too old, there is not hope for me.. btw this can't hurt, read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
I should know better? oh yes your right lol.. yes I should, do keep arguing frits.. amuse me.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
wow I have never seen physician put that much effort in to arguing someone.. well played 
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On April 05 2009 13:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:wow I have never seen physician put that much effort in to arguing someone.. well played
try my no p o k e r ads for kids thread, some subjects deserve effort
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You are so fucked up, Physician. i would never imagine you are such a stupid prick. wow
and no, you do not have an argument here, you are just making a parallel between a real genocide and a photoshopped picture
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On April 05 2009 13:54 Physician wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 10:37 Frits wrote:
you should know better than to post terrible strawman arguments
there's black humor and then there's actual pictures of genocide
like, in what galaxy would this picture be comparable with the OP frits, he trivializes and laughs at a great injustice and human tragedy, that also has racial undertones (actually given the context of the quote he posts is outright racist) and all for the sake of humor - so I made use of the same elements to make offensive "humor" of bad taste; the photo of the starving child is as real a tragedy as the genocide photo, both attempt to make the death of a specific people, a "laughing" matter; u can call that humor, I can't sorry - if u think that's a strawman argument I can't help you but do check the spoiler, you might find some pointers. - As I said earlier I don't actually care if you or others don't understand but you did ask! I actually only care that he does. His heritage is Armenian, he knows far better than to post such crass crap. And no, tl.net is not goatse. + Show Spoiler +On a side note, On October 14 2008 06:27 Frits wrote:
Actually the only argument you've used is that strawman. Unless "3 early bases is cool" counts as an argument. On October 14 2008 06:32 Frits wrote: You're the one who made the strawman, I thought you were admitting that when you quoted me but you're actually accusing me? My mind is blown. On November 04 2008 11:41 Frits wrote: And LOL I hope you're kidding about me using that strawman On December 23 2008 13:07 Frits wrote: How is that a strawman, it's just using logical reasoning to point out that your idea has huge shortcomings. On December 23 2008 12:40 Frits wrote:
dude.... fuuuuuuck you are so stupid. You keep proposing your idiotic idea's but when you can apply it to something else you come up with some bullshit and call it a strawman, which it clearly isn't. You are one shortsighted idiot, wow.go away On January 17 2009 04:03 Frits wrote: I don't really see how that is a strawman because I genuinely believe that's true and all the evidence I see points towards it... Also you say "I don't like China" when all that I dislike is their government, that's 2 strawmen. there is many more were those come from lol.. - I can't help but notice that your infatuation with the words "strawman/men" seems to give you even more pleasure than arguing for the sake of arguing or insulting people. I have also noticed that you often fail to understand the arguments of others and thus end up being accused of using strawmen arguments yourself or you end up accusing others of using them, usually followed by endless pointless arguments that never achieve understanding on your part. - You also almost invariably end up or start by insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you. Now considering this forum is full of youth and you view yourself knowledgeable in psychology, child abuse and whatnot why don't you do some much needed introspection and try to improve yourself? You are still relatively young yourself and thus there is hope for improvement. I on the other hand, am way too old, there is not hope for me.. btw this can't hurt, read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_manI should know better? oh yes your right lol.. yes I should, do keep arguing frits.. amuse me.
I don't understand your post at all, I pointed out that your argument is a strawman to make clear that it's not valid in any way, you didn't make a good point. Besides, as any critical thinking book will tell you, making a point using a picture is not a good idea.
And now you're arguing about what I like to do in arguments (ad hominem).
The only reason why I spend so much time pointing these things out is because it's such an overused cliche argument, especially online.
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On April 05 2009 22:16 Elvin_vn wrote:![[image loading]](http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8946/0002d4dgcopy.jpg)
Hahaha lol 
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On April 05 2009 18:01 araav wrote:
You are so fucked up, Physician. i would never imagine you are such a stupid prick. wow
and no, you do not have an argument here, you are just making a parallel between a real genocide and a photoshopped picture
So I am phucked up and a stupid prick now? How about making it more real and I put a starving Armenian child in the bucket and call it Turkish fishing? How would you like that collage? Oh wait no lets not use a collage, if I "photoshop" the image in it will make it ok no?
It's suddenly offensive and "different" when it hits home no?
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
I am removing the image though. Can't stomach it no more.
Frits, you seem to think all human dialogue is an "argument" - it is not. I gave you an explanation to a question you asked. I also made a personal observation of some of your infatuations, I put it a spoiler and labeled it a "side note" of which the very last sentences were free advice. Try researching more about "human communication" and maybe just maybe, you won't see all written conversation an "argument".
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On April 06 2009 01:16 Physician wrote:
You seem to think all human dialogue is an "argument" - it is not. I gave you an explanation to a question you asked. I also made a personal observation of some of your infatuations, I put it a spoiler and labeled it a "side note" of which the very last sentences were free advice. Try researching more about "human communication" and maybe just maybe, you won't see all written conversation an "argument".
I see, that's just how you hold conversations with people. Let me give that a try and see if that doesn't make me come across as insufferable.
+ Show Spoiler [some advice, just a side note] +
Oh and apparently pointing out the weakness in other people's arguments is an infatuation. I just thought that's how discussions work.
Please note that if you treat others like a jackass they can do the same.
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
actually that's good advice; trying hard too : )
I am sorry you were so offended. Sorry man, my fault.
On April 06 2009 Frits wrote:
I don't understand your post at all.
Ya, sorry about that too. Maybe I didn't explain myself properly.
Let me correct a wrong and strike out my incorrect observations that so offended you. Sorry again.
- I can't help but notice that your infatuation with the words "strawman/men" seems to give you even more pleasure than arguing for the sake of arguing or insulting people. I have also noticed that you often fail to understand the arguments of others and thus end up being accused of using strawmen arguments yourself or you end up accusing others of using them, usually followed by endless pointless arguments that never achieve understanding on your part.
- You also almost invariably end up or start by insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you. Now considering this forum is full of youth and you view yourself knowledgeable in psychology, child abuse and whatnot why don't you do some much needed introspection and try to improve yourself?
You are still relatively young yourself and thus there is hope for improvement. I on the other hand, am way too old, there is no hope for me..
+ Show Spoiler +shit, sometime I think I am clairvoyant.
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Okay let's summarize.
Shopping Ethiopian kids into nets being followed by shopped sharks is bad humor but still somewhat funny to many people. The fact that it is fake makes it more tolerable.
Posting pictures of an Armenian genocide to prove a point is not right nor is it even bad humor, since there is no humor at all.
Arguing about arguments is stupid. Looking through post histories to find people's use of a certain counter-argument is stupid.
Using a person's profession as a crutch for a comment that really serves no purpose on the internet and in this context is useless. Sarcastic responses that do nothing to negate anything the original person said is useless.
Physician has been on a weird self-destructive posting spree, the online version of depression. Frits likes arguing with Physician. Physician will never give in. Likewise, neither will Frits.
Can we close this blog nao
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On April 06 2009 00:33 Physician wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2009 18:01 araav wrote:
You are so fucked up, Physician. i would never imagine you are such a stupid prick. wow
and no, you do not have an argument here, you are just making a parallel between a real genocide and a photoshopped picture So I am phucked up and a stupid prick now? How about making it more real and I put a starving Armenian child in the bucket and call it Turkish fishing? How would you like that collage? Oh wait no lets not use a collage, if I " photoshop" the image in it will make it ok no? It's suddenly offensive and "different" when it hits home no?
wow, it hits home?? are you really out of your mind?? how can what you have posted not insult to any human being who knows what a genocide is?
and now you are saying
do you get the difference between this and the OP picture? you make a picture where armenian starving child is used this way and call it "Armenian way of fishing" I would say nothing coz it would 100% be the same as the OP. for me the picture had nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the kid's race, starveness, etc... it was just a very scary picture with a comment, that made the picture hilarious. NO race, NO sex NO color, NO nationality, NO anything... do you get it now? now go and throw up on what you did...
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
sigh.. that's why u titled the blog [nsfw] sick, sick
cause it was just an innocent pic no? u saw no starving child, u saw no racism no?
I believe you so I apologize, it was just a very scary picture with a comment for you.
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
Fritz obviously trained and spent most of his SC career on East.
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you are disgusting. this conversation is over for me...
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That's the most ridiculous parallel between those two images lol what the christ
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Hey its just a joke. Jokes can be insulting, some people might find jokes offensive while others doesn't. Its always like that.
Some people joke about hitler, white folks, black people, women, men, communists etc.. why so serious?
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More reinforcement for me that trying to argue with the majority of people on TL is just patience training.
You can never just make a point here. They will never even attempt to understand what point you are trying to make. As soon as you type anything that disagrees with them their efforts are immediately turned to finding where you are wrong(even if it isn't relevant to the topic or has nothing to do with what you are trying to say).
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On April 06 2009 05:42 travis wrote:
More reinforcement for me that trying to argue with the majority of people on TL is just patience training.
You can never just make a point here. They will never even attempt to understand what point you are trying to make. As soon as you type anything that disagrees with them their efforts are immediately turned to finding where you are wrong(even if it isn't relevant to the topic or has nothing to do with what you are trying to say).
Just like arguing with people on the internet in general.
Hence the joke about winning the special olympics..
actually that joke is very much insulting but still fun.
I don't think people should feel insulted by jokes at all, unless its meant to hurt people, in which case its not a joke at all.
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