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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 00:20:35
March 27 2009 00:17 GMT
#1
Have been testing some weird ZvP tactics and finally I did find one perfect build that fits my needs.

Let the replay speak.

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=9521

Those who already turn down my gosu build, screw you

But yeah its just basic double evo fast 1-1 upgrades for lings to fast hive (mix spire, well you really need it for corsais but not always) and 5 hatch :D Later on upgrading drop and preparing ultras. For corsairs spores to natural choke and 3rd (if needed)

For blog topic, destination, So painfull for zvt. Every game terran cheeses at least zvp is more standard T_T

Oh and if you wanna be extra gay, make late lurkers and defend random chokes with those and drop same time, makes protoss unhappy ;:D

*****
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 00:20:13
March 27 2009 00:19 GMT
#2
YOUR TITLE DECIEVED ME! i thought this was gonna be a topic discussing if destination is good or not XD

edit: NICE ninja edit O_o got me good lol
Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
March 27 2009 00:22 GMT
#3
On March 27 2009 09:19 ShmotZ wrote:
YOUR TITLE DECIEVED ME! i thought this was gonna be a topic discussing if destination is good or not XD

edit: NICE ninja edit O_o got me good lol


hah, but you can discuss destination if you want.

Especially all zergs can contribute some good ZvT and ZvP replays ASAP.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 27 2009 00:50 GMT
#4
I've only won two ZvT games on Destination before. One game was because the Terran went standard bio, and the second was because the guy had no idea what to do with 2port wraiths.
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
March 27 2009 01:00 GMT
#5
the best ZvT build for destination is clearly 4pool
Dwell
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
March 27 2009 01:02 GMT
#6
On March 27 2009 10:00 TryThis wrote:
the best ZvT build for destination is clearly 4pool


This.
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-27 01:07:32
March 27 2009 01:06 GMT
#7
nvm. edit.
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 27 2009 01:35 GMT
#8
God i hate this map with a passion, and everyone seems to be protoss at the yellow ranks, god damn it makes me want to kill myself.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
March 27 2009 02:07 GMT
#9
The entire map itself is like 1 giant bridge

bisu fanboy
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
March 27 2009 02:14 GMT
#10
I'll get you a zvt and zvp of myself on Destination, the zvt is vs mech but without lan lat.
zvp
zvt
Both games are from CSL, the college league thing.

I personally like Destination, especially as compared to Medusa or Colosseum2.
Too_MuchZerg your build sounds just like what Luxury did to Jangbi on Carthage, but it was only as successful as it was (not a spoiler!) because he was abusing the map's long distances and that Protoss couldn't as easily run around the map as him, but Destination is much more linear and not spread out, so I can't see this working vs a good protoss ._.

Gonna laugh when someone tries to 4pool and runs into a ling-tight wall rofl.

I like Destination zvt because terran either predictably mechs, or goes bio, and muta harass is really strong on this map vs bio, and the bridges help lurkers delay terran more than normal.

zvp is a little tougher, but taking the highground expo by your nat and sim citying it makes it pretty safe, and you get the backdoor for free with it. Protoss gets to do the same thing though which can make the game hard, I dunno.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
March 27 2009 02:18 GMT
#11
ZvT Destination I take a leaf out of Luxury's book and 5pool every single game.

Now you might think that's quite lame, but when Terran is doing this proxy-rax into proxy-fac into dual starport wraith tank the back of your natural every single game, you realize that it's for the best.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
March 27 2009 02:44 GMT
#12
I've never been proxied on Destination, any game :O
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 27 2009 02:50 GMT
#13
Really?
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
March 27 2009 02:57 GMT
#14
On March 27 2009 11:18 Last Romantic wrote:
ZvT Destination I take a leaf out of Luxury's book and 5pool every single game.

Now you might think that's quite lame, but when Terran is doing this proxy-rax into proxy-fac into dual starport wraith tank the back of your natural every single game, you realize that it's for the best.

You really should learn how to play Destination for real before you start 5pooling.
+ Show Spoiler +
Learn how to 4pool
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
March 27 2009 03:05 GMT
#15
I am struggling on Destination right now. I dropped from 3600 c- to 2900 D+ playing this map. But I've watched over 15 reps of each mu on that map so I'm going for round two on Saturday.

I am P btw.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
March 27 2009 03:20 GMT
#16
yea...dont play destination unless you are terran. Z/Ps should play Othello.

a ZvP build that gives you a significant advantage vs FE is 9 pool into 3 hatch(no speed) just go mine his back mineral with drone @ 9 scout and he is forced to put up additional cannons at some random shitty choke point, really puts protoss behind.

ZvT....uh good luck? =S mech unstoppable on that map
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
March 27 2009 04:50 GMT
#17
Lol I can't believe the zergs are bitching about desti (coming from a P).
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
March 27 2009 05:45 GMT
#18
On March 27 2009 10:00 TryThis wrote:
the best ZvT build for destination is clearly 4pool

I coulda sworn 5pool is better >.>
DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
March 27 2009 05:56 GMT
#19
EVERY toss I've played has proxy gated me on desti, while I've meched every zerg, so I think the karma balances out. strangely enough I only got 4 pooled once which didn't work out for him, although him banging on my building supply to 90 hp was a nail biter.
Im pretty good at whistling with my hands, especially when Im holding a whistle.
eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
March 27 2009 07:37 GMT
#20
What are you talking about? I'm T and I never cheese on Desti vs Zerg. I play bio only because I think mech is boring and its like near impossible to win unless the zerg is a complete dumbass... TvZ is my best mu, too :'(

In 70% of TvPs I've been proxied (in-base, natural, slightly behind natural, etc), so it doesn't add to my confidence of winning on Desti... I'm D+ btw, currently with 2949 points.
Never give cheese to the Gorilla ^^
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