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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 01:08:09
March 05 2009 00:51 GMT
#1
When I started gaming, it was your average casual gamer. Super mario, stealth type fps (like 007 golden eye, where there are a total of 5 enemies on the map, etc), and RPG's.

My earliest memory was asking my mother to get my older bro to turn on a light in our room. It was dark, and I was afraid, and the reason I wanted in our room? To play our awesome new SNES.

The first game I ever played specifically for the multiplayer aspect in those days was Super Bomberman 1 & 2. But as every casual gamer does, I moved on to bigger and better things (lol), RPGS!

What started this was a little memorable game called Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. Since that game, I played such games like th Final Fantasy series, the Grandia series, Morrowind, etc. Of course, I played other games as well, like Super smash bros. and DDR.

Then 8th grade happened. I had friends. We were the Advanced-classes-nerds. Of course, we all played video games. What nerd doesn't? In 8th grade, since we all had computers, all had internet, and idea came about us. "Let's play DOOM online!" One of my friends (Let's call him "J") discovered Zdaemon, which I often use to this day for all my online doom needs. Now, I watched a little show called Pure Pwnage. Since I was young and foolish, I of course imitated whoever I idolized. I thought FPS's were lame, because Jeremy, the star of the show, thought they were. Reluctantly, I gave in. And we played. J and I were the best, and were nearly equal in skill, although I remember him beating me by 3 kills (in a 30 frag limit game) or something similar in most 1v1 games.

To follow up on this exiting new thing that connected us, the internet, we tried out starcraft. Being my foolish self once again, I immediately pushed the idea aside, saying that Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 was better. Another friend of mine (Let's call him "L", and has nothing to do with the TL member L) "acquired" this game, played it, and still told me that starcraft was more fun. "In korea, they have 2 TV stations dedicated to starcraft, because its so good!" This never really struck me as much as it does now. Back then, Asia was where people floated around on hover chairs and robots did all the work.

Finally, I agreed to play starcraft. Ahhh, the innocence of not being the best. In FFA games, we'd all lose to L because he spammed carriers. We thought it was so cheap. I knew there was a way to beat carriers. I tried everything. Dark archon mind control? Nope. Mass goliaths? Nope. Ghosts' lockdown? EMP? Scourge? All failed. Now I know that all of those will easily beat carriers, I just sucked back then. We eventually gave up starcraft. It got boring.

Looking back at my life from THAT point, I realized... I watch the show pure pwnage, I consider myself a gamer. I consider myself good. But what have I done to deserve that title? Played lots of RPG's? ha. I need something I can win in. Something to, how Jeremy would say, "pwn" in.
And so I picked up Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium wars (aka cnc3: spam wars). I innocently played, unknowing of a 'competitive community' or anything. I played to get better. And I did. I reached the top 5000 at one point, something I think is laughable by my standards today, but at the time, I was king of the world. EA says something about WCG. Wait, what?

I look it up. Competitive gaming. Money. Team Liquid.
Team liquid? What's that? Oh, a place to talk about starcraft. Lots of theories, I've tried some of these. Let's look up carrier spam. Nope, these guys are idiots. None of these counters work. Carrier spam is overpowered.

Then we all got back into starcraft. I still lost. I went back to this "team liquid". Turns out you're supposed to make more than 12 scv's. Oh. That makes sense. Build orders. The meta game. After learning all this, I was instantly the best in our group in starcraft.

And the rest is history. I joined teamliquid, I get on iccup. I can maintain a D grade, but thats about it. My growth in the game feels exponential. Back then, I read a lot about "timings", but never really used them, because they were always wrong for me. Now I do, because I learned you need constant macro in order for them to work.

Nowadays, I play Command and Conquer: Red Alert 3 competitively. Its turning into a 200apm game, actually. Its a lot of fun, and no doubt EA will buy its way into wcg 2009, so that's what I'm working towards now. I also am playing Quake live, but not really competitively, granted its competitive in itself. I'm also playing SSBB, getting into poker and chess as well.

I'm writing this kind of as a final decision. I often explain to people "There's a certain magic in starcraft, where if you get good at starcraft, you are by default good at every other RTS." I'm going to go where everyone else is going, so if starcraft dies, I probably won't be playing it anymore. My goal, then, is to at least reach D+, if not C-, on iccup, so I can say "Yeah. I played starcraft better than 99% of the starcraft population, and I've beaten quite a few people who play the game competitively. I can be the best in another RTS later on, if all goes well."

So if/when sc dies, I will have gotten all the experience out of it I need.
If it all works the way I'm hoping.

*****
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
March 05 2009 00:57 GMT
#2
don't get into poker imo
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 05 2009 00:59 GMT
#3
Just curious how old are ya?
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
March 05 2009 01:00 GMT
#4
according to his profile, he's approximately 2 days and 2 years older than I am
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
March 05 2009 01:01 GMT
#5
17
Probably should've mentioned that.
Rereading it, it makes you wonder...
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
March 05 2009 01:02 GMT
#6
Don't bother getting into chess and poker, anyone who gets good at chess tries to get into poker anyway, so you might as well just skip the chess part.
skating
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
March 05 2009 01:15 GMT
#7
lol
oh god, command and conquer generals online
i remember being so disappointed that the people were beatable even though i was a newb, yet when i played sc after months and months i still had like 60% wins on bnet east
>.<
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24795 Posts
March 05 2009 01:56 GMT
#8
On March 05 2009 10:02 huameng wrote:
Don't bother getting into chess and poker, anyone who gets good at chess tries to get into poker anyway, so you might as well just skip the chess part.

Lol total bs and you could just replace 'chess' with 'starcraft' can't you
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 02:07:07
March 05 2009 02:06 GMT
#9
RA3 is destined to be crap until EA stops listening to the current top players bitch about how "so-and-so sucks," "this is imba," etc, and stop making balance patches based on that. AKA the last balance patch. I'm waiting for the upcoming patch and hoping it gets better...I personally loved RA2, so I do in fact want to see RA3 become a good game...

At the moment, RA3 is a ridiculously one-dimensional game, and involves packing up your MCV and dropping turrets lol >_<
TranslatorBaa!
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-05 02:13:58
March 05 2009 02:12 GMT
#10
On March 05 2009 11:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
RA3 is destined to be crap until EA stops listening to the current top players bitch about how "so-and-so sucks," "this is imba," etc, and stop making balance patches based on that. AKA the last balance patch. I'm waiting for the upcoming patch and hoping it gets better...I personally loved RA2, so I do in fact want to see RA3 become a good game...

At the moment, RA3 is a ridiculously one-dimensional game, and involves packing up your MCV and dropping turrets lol >_<


RA3 was destined to suck because it's an EA game. Even then, it's not tooo bad.

Other than that, did you see the original patch notes for 1.08? I dunno what level you play at, but the notes were very lol, the lead balance designer hadn't even looked at the metagame (+game?) for an entire month.

and coo post RoieTRS, it's nice seeing how people progress through different games and mental states
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