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Ah. Watching replays.
I hate it. But I guess I have to.
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I actually stopped playing starcraft a few weeks ago. Got too much with school, training, actually having (/wanting) to see friends etc. I didn't have time for everything I wanted/had to do and realized there was one big time sink that had to leave the equation... Starcraft :S
Now it's only installed on my notebook (where all the colors are scrambled :S anyone know how to fix that btw? running windows 7 beta on it, and it wont run in compatibility mode... anyway, less thread stealing..) so I can watch replays on it.
Still gonna follow the professional scene like always, but just can't play it before summer.
edit: alright, alright, take it easy. I won't spill my friggin diary or anything into your blog. No harm meant.
Post Rephrased: Good luck with your iccuping, but I can't play due to personal complications.
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Get out of my blog. Just because it is a blog doesn't mean you can post all of your useless personal information in it. You can post a blog called 'why I'm not good' somewhere else ok?
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I'm at work-_-; for at least 6 hours--a
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On March 03 2009 19:23 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I'm at work-_-; for at least 6 hours--a
I have no doubt that you will do everything I recommend except losing ten games~!~!~!~!
GERMANY OWNS YOUR BONES NOOBS. NOW STOP READING THESE POSTS AND GO FUCKING PLAY~!~!~!.
EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!!
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On March 03 2009 19:18 GinNtoniC wrote:
(where all the colors are scrambled :S anyone know how to fix that btw?)
Try updating graphics cards drivers, that worked for me.
I have every intention of going on iccup right now ^^ I'm not going to lose 10 games though.
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On March 03 2009 19:27 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2009 19:23 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I'm at work-_-; for at least 6 hours--a I have no doubt that you will do everything I recommend except losing ten games~!~!~!~! GERMANY OWNS YOUR BONES NOOBS. NOW STOP READING THESE POSTS AND GO FUCKING PLAY~!~!~!. EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!!
I'M AT WORK I HAVE STARCRAFT INSTALLED BUT IT WONT LET ME CONNECT TO ICCUP! FIREWALL OK? CANT PLAY!!! T_T
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On March 03 2009 19:29 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2009 19:27 AttackZerg wrote:On March 03 2009 19:23 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I'm at work-_-; for at least 6 hours--a I have no doubt that you will do everything I recommend except losing ten games~!~!~!~! GERMANY OWNS YOUR BONES NOOBS. NOW STOP READING THESE POSTS AND GO FUCKING PLAY~!~!~!. EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!! I'M AT WORK I HAVE STARCRAFT INSTALLED BUT IT WONT LET ME CONNECT TO ICCUP! FIREWALL OK? CANT PLAY!!! T_T
You misunderstood me brother. I was saying you are one player that I can count on playing hardcore and working his ass off  .
Everything after the first sentence wasn't directed at you .
<3 naruto!
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Will you analyse my protoss reps instead ;D!!!!
Went 1-3 as of 5 minutes ago >_> bit rusty since not playing for a few months but dont think i would of won these games anyways
Oh yeah the game i won was because of my sxc dt rush vs some terran that was trying a dropship build (which he lost in my base without dropping anything).
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On March 03 2009 20:16 ToyotaDemon wrote:
Will you analyse my protoss reps instead ;D!!!!
Went 1-3 as of 5 minutes ago >_> bit rusty since not playing for a few months but dont think i would of won these games anyways
Oh yeah the game i won was because of my sxc dt rush vs some terran that was trying a dropship build (which he lost in my base without dropping anything).
No.
BUT keep UP THE GOOD WORK!
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I decided I was gonna play every one of my games on one account and never rest it this season.. Should be fun at least ^_^ glgl all!
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yeye im coming take it easy i just had to run to the store and buy some lube... alooooooot of lube.
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On March 03 2009 20:22 Pads wrote:
I decided I was gonna play every one of my games on one account and never rest it this season.. Should be fun at least ^_^ glgl all!
YOUR BALLS ARE LARGE AND FILLED WITH POWER!
This man, this god damn amazing posting man, has choosen to take the vicious beatings and brutal rapings with his chin up and his butt flexed! He will not hide behind an alias or relocate under government protection .... no he won't. He will stand his ground no matter how covered he is with blood and vomit and ....
This man, this man named pads, is a good man.
/Salute
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Ares[Effort]
DEMACIA6550 Posts
I went 0-3 now I'm 1-4, like pads over here I won't reset this season as well GOGOGOGOGOGOGGOGOGO MAY THE CJ ENTUS SPIRIT BE WITHIN ALL OF YOU!
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I too will play this season without resets, I'll be the guy with 100wins and 600loses, MARK MY WORDS. aka WyrMz.
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I have vacation from school starting tomorrow and going for three weeks. I plan to mass game. A lot.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
gary post that rep of the game we played
i know you want people to see it
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Valhalla18444 Posts
disclaimer, fuckshits!: i havent played in a fucking month!
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Pepsi t0 ceyb0rd = n0 iccup 4 awile 4 me l0l
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I have to agree with you there. I played a couple pvz's before the season ended and some protoss did not even know how to fe.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
seriously though attackzerg is right
if you're a D- or D or D+ or hell even C level player, this is the time where you can get games against people far, FAR better than you. Seek out the people with the 5-0, 6-0 and better records and play them. You will lose, but you'll learn more about your own play this week than you will at any other time.
go forth, brave warriors, and fight the good fight! maybe next season someone will be watching a replay of YOU crushing their skull!
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Zurich15328 Posts
While it might be cool to play people far far better than you I don't really see how you can learn so much from losing to 10 proxy raxx bunker scv all in rushes in a row.
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On March 03 2009 22:24 zatic wrote:
While it might be cool to play people far far better than you I don't really see how you can learn so much from losing to 10 proxy raxx bunker scv all in rushes in a row.
this is so true, every single good korean seems to be cheesing right now like everytime at season starts, it does suck for us less good players.
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gonna try right now to play some good stats guys
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I'm suppose to be doing work, but screw that, I'll go home and play iccup instead!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 03 2009 22:24 zatic wrote:
While it might be cool to play people far far better than you I don't really see how you can learn so much from losing to 10 proxy raxx bunker scv all in rushes in a row.
You might learn how to stop that shit, which is a skill in and of itself
I mean, there's a reason why I don't 14cc on ICCup.
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On March 03 2009 19:27 AttackZerg wrote:
EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!!
brb iccup
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My family is here in my house for a week, worst timing ever
I will mass play next week ! Maybe some lazy pros will just start next week too ! 
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Do they let you play on a mac yet?
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On March 03 2009 19:27 AttackZerg wrote:
EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!!
Definitely taking you up on that one. Will post later, have class.
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haha i am 4-10 right now 
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if i end up playing against someone whos known to be good i.e good foreigner or pro korean ill make sure to post the horrible rape im gonna receive and ask for more
in a BW sense of course not in a gay way
edit: im 1-2 right now epic fail games
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I'm totally taking advantage of this
ok I just played this game and was like "wtf happened here." I opened with 9 pool speed and he did a 2 gate build. I literally had no idea what the hell to do in this situation. I know I played D- terribly, mins stacking up, teching muta and lurk at the same like a retard because i didn't know wtf was going on, stupid building placement, bad macro ect. I was just wondering if you could give me some insight on how to play against this build. I guess hydra/lurker would have been the not retarded thing to do? Also, how can I take a third without like 50 zeals a+moving and raping my face?
Thanks again for this oppurtunity
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=8265
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Yaaaaaah !!! Fighting !!!
I went 40% over 150 games last season.
I'll play more on this one. Hopefully.
Just played one game yesterday. I'll try to get a bunch of games and a few spankings tonight.
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I don't mind getting raped, in fact, i welcome it. ive gone 1-6 so far and all those losses were against koreans and one was against fnatic.never. this season im trying to play more on korean hours and hopefully through the repeated brutal rapings i will emerge a stronger man. its nice to already have 5 replays to analyze from people who are b- and above.
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But I-
It is time! Go lose 10 games on iccup
Oh.
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im already 0-12
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2-0 so far =] PvPs though, so can't really tell how good my opponents were since its such a dumb matchup(korean time last night)
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im not going to reset this season either
500+ games C 40% win rate gogo ://
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Why does the start of the season have to be my crazy test week .
I want to get owned by pros, but I'll have to settle for getting owned by my classes.
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vs koreans 0-2
vs non-koreans 5-0
The difference is already apparent. :D
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On March 04 2009 03:05 Nytefish wrote:
vs koreans 0-2
vs non-koreans 5-0
The difference is already apparent. :D
Similar, except I have just as many losses as wins thnx2insomnia.
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6-1! I dodge people with complicated names, they are usually better.
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0-2 so far. Man, that hurt. Gotta take a week long break or something.
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On March 04 2009 04:14 IMlemon wrote:
0-2 so far. Man, that hurt. Gotta take a week long break or something.
Losing 2 games hurts?? Complain when you go on a 7 game losing streak mid season.
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0-2 vs C+ level 2v2 teams, one game my mate went hydra in zz vs zz = lost cause
the other game we actually almost won but their spire break just BARELY worked
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wow I'm am thrilled so many of you are braven the cyborg assault that is iccup right now!
Everybody who has posted replays will get a response tonight around 9 pst (9 hours) while I rank up!
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On March 04 2009 04:13 Makhno wrote:
6-1! I dodge people with complicated names, they are usually better.
I HOPE TERRIBLE BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU.
OBVIOUSLY A CRAP PLAYER. OBVIOUSLY A PEICE OF CRAP OF A MAN.
DO NOT HEED THIS VAGINA MONOLOGERS ADVICE. KEEP TRUCKING EVERYBODY THAT ISN'T TWO LIPS FLAPPING UNDER VICTORIA SECRET!
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I'd like to think of this as a Public Service Announcement, haha.
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I went from 11-9 to like 13-15 -_-
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4-5, didn't play any really good ones. Did get raped silly by a proxy on desti, but the rest was pretty close.
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This thread has inspired me more than any other on TL to play. Last season was the first that I didn't have the urge to play or get better. This weekend I am mass gaming (full time school+full time work+rowing) and getting back into it.
On March 03 2009 19:27 AttackZerg wrote:
EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!!
I'm definitely going to hold you to that. Really nice offer.
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Netherlands4511 Posts
I plan on playing on ToT)ret( and playing a lot and really hoping to reach my max level this season (Hopefully that will be A and not A-.. playing koreans only that is wishfull thinking tho )
but we'll see how much school allows it!
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hey i too have 4000 posts
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On March 04 2009 05:16 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 04:13 Makhno wrote:
6-1! I dodge people with complicated names, they are usually better. I HOPE TERRIBLE BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU. OBVIOUSLY A CRAP PLAYER. OBVIOUSLY A PEICE OF CRAP OF A MAN. DO NOT HEED THIS VAGINA MONOLOGERS ADVICE. KEEP TRUCKING EVERYBODY THAT ISN'T TWO LIPS FLAPPING UNDER VICTORIA SECRET!
Yes, I knew I could get you worked up lol.
I actually tried to play some good players but I could'nt find any! Damn progamers with their practice-sessions, they get to C and higher in a day.
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On March 04 2009 06:36 ret wrote:I plan on playing on ToT)ret( and playing a lot and really hoping to reach my max level this season (Hopefully that will be A and not A-.. playing koreans only that is wishfull thinking tho ) but we'll see how much school allows it!
Ret the only reason your not A is because of speed.
Your tactics/macro/micro is all amazing. You just aren't fast enough. Add 50-60 apm to your game and I promise you will get A and you know it !
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300 apm seems so far away :D
I max out at 260 basically : [
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you know you need it though
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im scared to play iccup, cause i suck!
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On March 04 2009 07:42 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im scared to play iccup, cause i suck!
You get better better by getting your ass kicked, seriously.
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On March 04 2009 07:42 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im scared to play iccup, cause i suck!
WHAT THE FUCK.
I THOUGHT SLAVIC MEN WERE MANLY MEN?
SINCE WHEN DID THEY BREED WUSSIES OVER THERE?
GROW A PAIR!!
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Im 16-7 so far
EDIT: when does koreans normally go on iccup?
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On March 04 2009 07:42 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im scared to play iccup, cause i suck!
this is the perfect time, every loss you get jsut say "prolly a progamer!" and go to the next game, kind of like the guy who gets rejected constantly and calls every girl that shuts him down a lesbian, y'know?
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On March 04 2009 08:21 WindCalibur wrote:
Im 16-7 so far
EDIT: when does koreans normally go on iccup?
2-7 am had a ton of them.
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I hit D+ on my first day...right now I'm 11-6
edit: i am terran
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On March 04 2009 08:21 anderoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 07:42 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im scared to play iccup, cause i suck! this is the perfect time, every loss you get jsut say "prolly a progamer!" and go to the next game, kind of like the guy who gets rejected constantly and calls every girl that shuts him down a lesbian, y'know?
Yeah. There are tons of lesbians around where I live. ESP at my favorite bar.
Its like an anti-man hack t.t
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Damn, as much as I'd like too. Too much homework T___T
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On March 03 2009 19:27 AttackZerg wrote:
EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!!
http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/65109c
Taking advantage while it lasts, oh yeah and can you give a link to that game you had vs Testie or Kwark?
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Valhalla18444 Posts
Keep playing and posting, dudes. Get your games in now while the good players are around!
I'll offer my services as well, helping Terran players deal with what they run into this week. Post your losses against good players, and I will watch it and PM you an analysis
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On March 04 2009 11:54 DrywMz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2009 19:27 AttackZerg wrote:
EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!! http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/65109cTaking advantage while it lasts, oh yeah and can you give a link to that game you had vs Testie or Kwark?
testie was a fake.
and me and kwark are 1/1 now and I am too pissed off at his gameplay to even post a game of it.
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I just got to play a bunch of games with SarenS! They were all incredibly one-sided though.
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With a topic title like this it's impossible not to.
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KEEP IT UP GUYS.
The koreans are on now.
The number 7 player from last season is at c- right now C fucking MINUS.
I just bashed another D+ player so I'm 3150 or so, I'm hoping to be able to stay at c- threw the night.... its a long shot!
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Even though I've had an account here at TL for about two months, Until today I had never played a game of Starcraft against a human opponent. I got into starcraft because someone mentioned TL in a post on the forums at Sirlin's website of all places. I came here and watched some pro vods, and even though I had very little idea what was going on, It looked pretty sweet.
I downloaded the game on my laptop, but it's a mac so I couldn't use the iccup launcher and I didn't have a CD key to play on battle net, so I just screwed around in the campaign and against comps and watched replays.
This thread motivated me to finally download the iccup launcher on my family's PC and play online against human opponents. I played 11 games. I lost 9 of them, and I'm 100% addicted. Hopefully by the end of the season I'll actually know what I'm doing...
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shit dude, you've never played against a human opponent and you won 2 games? Well fucking done, send me replays if you need advice, i can help you with any race, any matchup
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are you serious? you really won 2 games even though you JUST started playing? unless, ur born to play sc, i think ur amazing. keep it up and hopefully u'll learn the basic BOs to finally get things around and advance to higher ranks.
man i'd love to see those two reps. unbelievable.
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I've been playing for like, 11 years dude, and my total wins stack up around like, 20 or something. I don't think I got a win until like, 2000. :/
I envy you.
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first rep is under 12 min at 11min 30sec.
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He wouldnt watch them anyways. he only watch go su replays from players that are already known and famous.
T_T
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On March 04 2009 17:35 ffswowsucks wrote:He wouldnt watch them anyways. he only watch go su replays from players that are already known and famous. T_T
I won't watch them because you are a liar, a stalker and a complete loser.
You knew I couldn't stand you from op irc, why the fuck would I try and help you?
get a grip weirdo, stop following me
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I feel like reseting... I got to C- but I haven't been vsing "good" players (I WAS C- AT THE END OF LAST SEASON >_> ). I feel like the rank I have doesn't suit me. WhAT SHOULD I DO!?!
(IGN: Mitochondrion)
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Why the fuck would you reset.
Man the fuck up, go into C- right now.
open internet explorer iccup.com look at the top 100 gamers(mostly c-) pick the ones with the green on button that have a korean flag and go get raped.
I just go man handled by the only C+ gamer in the whole fucking ladder. HE WENT SCOUTS FROM 1 BASE.
RAWR
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Ok everbody who's replay was connected to a valid link (except the weird greek guy) has gotten an emailed response.
DrywMz,
Please click accept on figherreplays.com so I can see your file and inturn download it. Thx!
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AttackZerg, redefining our very idea of what a man should be.
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On March 04 2009 14:02 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2009 11:54 DrywMz wrote:On March 03 2009 19:27 AttackZerg wrote:
EVERY ZERG PLAYER WHO POSTS A LOSING REP LONGER THEN 12 MINUTES IN THIS THREAD WILL RECIEVE A PM OF PERSONALIZED REPLAY ANALYSE!! http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/65109cTaking advantage while it lasts, oh yeah and can you give a link to that game you had vs Testie or Kwark? testie was a fake. and me and kwark are 1/1 now and I am too pissed off at his gameplay to even post a game of it.
Cannon happy toss?
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More like, I completely abused him one game.
And not only did I played even better in the second game, but I lost 100% straight up in a macro war. He fucking outplayed me and scouted and multi-tasked so consistently all game that it drove me insane. I was ahead at one point at least 4 bases vs 1 mining and still didn't win~!~!~!
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On March 04 2009 20:50 ColdLava wrote:
AttackZerg, redefining our very idea of what a man should be.
Yes.
I man should look himself in the face and say "Glass or knive" every morning before he shaves.
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Speaking of which .... all you guys who go to bed extra early during the new season are wussies. How do you think your gonna get laid if one of your true character straights is "avoid iccup after 9 pst" The koreans are on .....
RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWR MAN POWER (UNLESS YOUR TOSS OR TERRAN)
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Valhalla18444 Posts
playing terran as a white guy vs korean is manly as fuck
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So like, first day i didnt get any sleep to play, and well, at least i experienced the ultimate archon zeal timing attack... I wont be opening mutas against toss anytime soon -_-;
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Valhalla18444 Posts
hahahaha post the replay
everyone can learn from replays of someone getting destroyed by a strong korean
when i go back to the office tomorrow i'll post the replay of ipxZerg (not savior, just some guy) playing P against my T and fucking obliterating me
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Wow this thing about good koreans being in the lower ranks right now is so true. I mean I have a 100% win rate agains non-koreans and a 100% loss rate against koreans, that's some skewed shit.
+ Show Spoiler +Korean Terrans lategame are fucking scary, how can they have 250+ apm at D+?
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But have you improved?! Stats they do nozeeng.
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I definately have had a few loses.
But some members of the top 50 get to live know that I beat them with 2 hat hive 4 base pure defiler defence ....
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United States10774 Posts
sup attackzerg!
you up for some pvz games this weekend?!?!
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AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks!
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On March 05 2009 05:07 AttackZerg wrote:I definately have had a few loses. But some members of the top 50 get to live know that I beat them with 2 hat hive 4 base pure defiler defence ....
how can you have 4 bases with 2 hatches?
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9-1 mostly noobs that i've played...
However the only lost that i recieved was against a chinese zerg that managed to own incontrol, and a C korean called wow- with like sick stats.
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On March 05 2009 06:24 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 05:07 AttackZerg wrote:I definately have had a few loses. But some members of the top 50 get to live know that I beat them with 2 hat hive 4 base pure defiler defence .... how can you have 4 bases with 2 hatches?
send drones to harvest at expansions without putting down a hatchery
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On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks!
http://reps.ru/replays.php?replay=comment&id=12157
This is what I try and base my pvz on desti off of.
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On March 05 2009 06:24 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 05:07 AttackZerg wrote:I definately have had a few loses. But some members of the top 50 get to live know that I beat them with 2 hat hive 4 base pure defiler defence .... how can you have 4 bases with 2 hatches?
2 hat hive defiler/lurker -> 4 base nydus defence. when it works it too funny.
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On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks!
Instead of a rep.
Go to gomtv.net and watch Bisu Vs Devil on destination. I think bisus build that game is the most solid/inteligent build for destination. Copy that build it is fucking savy~!~!
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So I have offically slipped back into d+ lol. I was at 3190 last night, steve played twice. I started today at 3040 and I'm now 2800 ... keke I am the sucks.
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On March 05 2009 06:33 jimminy_kriket wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! http://reps.ru/replays.php?replay=comment&id=12157This is what I try and base my pvz on desti off of.
Thanks!
On March 05 2009 06:51 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! Instead of a rep. Go to gomtv.net and watch Bisu Vs Devil on destination. I think bisus build that game is the most solid/inteligent build for destination. Copy that build it is fucking savy~!~!
Okay thanks. How about other maps? Python being my biggest ?_? moment.
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You most sympatic problem all game was army placement. In defense against drops and vulture harass there were many points where you had your units almost where they needed to be, but not all the way there.
Now stylistically I will talk about my vs mech idealogy esp vs my vs fantasy mech idealogy.
I would never upgrade range before speed no matter what. Even vs wraiths range first is worse, against 1 wraith or 2 its fine, but against 4 or more, it is less effective then speed. Every game I play against mech esp against preasure mech, I go speed first with my hydras. Then after I get my first 6 hydra and I still have my initial 4-6 lings, I use lings to clear a path around the map to preasure. This means he can't drop because his 1 factory vultures are now having to deal with 3 hat hydra. I think playing it slightly more aggressive relivies alot of the harassment of terran.
Now I think you still came out of that harass ahead. I noticed after you forced terrans CC to lift, you neither expoed immediately or spired. I think you drone whored far to much. If you had settled for basic 1/1 drone/mineral ratio during the attack, you could have had your third and spire up sooner, before he could safely go valks. So I think late spire, and 10:20 third, are suicide, even vs 1 base mech.
After that your largest hit was twice allowing him to completely molest all of your drones at your third. The first time you had 1 hydra on the bridge .... one fucking hydra? That is brilliant, you'll be able to deny any single scouting scv other then that your fucked.
Also, you went muta against valks, which is fine, and even got your +1carp immediately, but instead of using your mutas to spread him thin, you were militarly aggressive. I think since you were so low on hatcherys you had no choice but to try and bug his second or third bases and avoid any aggression.
After you deny expo, if your broke, instead of going muta, I think hydra/lurker drops will be done by the time he retakes expo, and you can spread him thin while you mass mass muta.
So defend even slightly better then you did, time your tech transitions to be a little more rapidfire, don't leave single hydras to defend 6-7 drones.
I think with a few modifications to your defence and tech timings you would have completely round housed his homo play in the face ^^.
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On March 05 2009 08:42 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 06:33 jimminy_kriket wrote:On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! http://reps.ru/replays.php?replay=comment&id=12157This is what I try and base my pvz on desti off of. Thanks! Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 06:51 AttackZerg wrote:On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! Instead of a rep. Go to gomtv.net and watch Bisu Vs Devil on destination. I think bisus build that game is the most solid/inteligent build for destination. Copy that build it is fucking savy~!~! Okay thanks. How about other maps? Python being my biggest ?_? moment.
I won't give anybody python based advice. Sorry!
Also there is nearly no map that build isn't strong on.
I think except andro is it a powerhouse build on current maps. Just remember to always expand while you move out with 3-4 archons/zealot.
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On March 05 2009 08:48 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 08:42 fanatacist wrote:On March 05 2009 06:33 jimminy_kriket wrote:On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! http://reps.ru/replays.php?replay=comment&id=12157This is what I try and base my pvz on desti off of. Thanks! On March 05 2009 06:51 AttackZerg wrote:On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! Instead of a rep. Go to gomtv.net and watch Bisu Vs Devil on destination. I think bisus build that game is the most solid/inteligent build for destination. Copy that build it is fucking savy~!~! Okay thanks. How about other maps? Python being my biggest ?_? moment. I won't give anybody python based advice. Sorry! Also there is nearly no map that build isn't strong on. I think except andro is it a powerhouse build on current maps. Just remember to always expand while you move out with 3-4 archons/zealot.
Why ):
But okay, thanks. So many zergs nowadays seem to have lurkers early enough to stop the zeal/archon push ); I guess my timing is still off and I will check out the game before I make more of an ass out of myself. Thanks.
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On March 05 2009 08:53 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 08:48 AttackZerg wrote:On March 05 2009 08:42 fanatacist wrote:On March 05 2009 06:33 jimminy_kriket wrote:On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! http://reps.ru/replays.php?replay=comment&id=12157This is what I try and base my pvz on desti off of. Thanks! On March 05 2009 06:51 AttackZerg wrote:On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! Instead of a rep. Go to gomtv.net and watch Bisu Vs Devil on destination. I think bisus build that game is the most solid/inteligent build for destination. Copy that build it is fucking savy~!~! Okay thanks. How about other maps? Python being my biggest ?_? moment. I won't give anybody python based advice. Sorry! Also there is nearly no map that build isn't strong on. I think except andro is it a powerhouse build on current maps. Just remember to always expand while you move out with 3-4 archons/zealot. Why ): But okay, thanks. So many zergs nowadays seem to have lurkers early enough to stop the zeal/archon push ); I guess my timing is still off and I will check out the game before I make more of an ass out of myself. Thanks.
I wouldn't help you out on lost temple for the same reason.
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On March 05 2009 09:33 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2009 08:53 fanatacist wrote:On March 05 2009 08:48 AttackZerg wrote:On March 05 2009 08:42 fanatacist wrote:On March 05 2009 06:33 jimminy_kriket wrote:On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! http://reps.ru/replays.php?replay=comment&id=12157This is what I try and base my pvz on desti off of. Thanks! On March 05 2009 06:51 AttackZerg wrote:On March 05 2009 06:21 fanatacist wrote:
AttackZerg can you post a few links to any PvZ reps (Z losing, P being gosu)? I really need to work on my PvZ timing and I want a clear example n_n Thanks! Instead of a rep. Go to gomtv.net and watch Bisu Vs Devil on destination. I think bisus build that game is the most solid/inteligent build for destination. Copy that build it is fucking savy~!~! Okay thanks. How about other maps? Python being my biggest ?_? moment. I won't give anybody python based advice. Sorry! Also there is nearly no map that build isn't strong on. I think except andro is it a powerhouse build on current maps. Just remember to always expand while you move out with 3-4 archons/zealot. Why ): But okay, thanks. So many zergs nowadays seem to have lurkers early enough to stop the zeal/archon push ); I guess my timing is still off and I will check out the game before I make more of an ass out of myself. Thanks. I wouldn't help you out on lost temple for the same reason.
It's motw and everyone plays it ;_;
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Netherlands4511 Posts
I disagree with most of your analysis except for the obvious mistake of letting him snipe all my drones. But I think it's just that we have different ideas on how to best fight mech, both could work if executed well. I like range because it keeps your hydras slow for a long time, leaving terran guessing if you're going all out 3 hat hydra or if you're getting a really quick spire.
And you really do need drones eco to be able to fight mech, another mistake I made was not making 4-6 scourge with my initial muta because he starported so valkyries were very likely, and indeed the 3rd was a little late. Defense vs harass can always be better of course. I should have maybe powered even more because he was low on unit and camped to his 3rd for a while, getting more expoes and faster hive/defiler. Agression really will get you nowhere vs mech, at one point you need mass units and defiler/ling to be able to fight a good player doing it. (good players won't die to drops unless you're really ahead) Once he had 4 valkyries and the middle camped defiler/mass crackling was really the only option, he had a vessel too so he was just gonna own mutas bad, and was able to mass tank cuz muta threat was neutralized..really tough.
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Oh ye bitches, ranked as the 16th best norwegian player on iccup now. *rawr*
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On March 05 2009 09:45 ret wrote:
(good players won't die to drops unless you're really ahead)
Thats the thing. I think you had the game in the bag. You had him forced into gol/tank from (as far as you know) 2 or 3 factorys, this can play out exactly like zvp(5 hat hydra/muta) or even hydra/lurker.
Most of my analysis is about the decisions that are possible from the time his CC lifted until you had your third mining.
Why would you want him guessing about hydras btw? I want terran to always think I'm going pure hydra at all times. Otherwise how do you force him into over producing tanks/vultures?
We do differ alot in approaches. Although the way you played in the vs mech thread, is exactly how I approach it.
Oh and the drops are ... 2-3 lords of hydras, I do'nt doom drop. I delay drop. I don't actually intend to win from them, just inflict damage, pick off depots/turrets. nothing major.
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Netherlands4511 Posts
the way i played it in the topic is the way i still play, mass drone as much as possible and get units in time to stop a mid game push, then get big for late game.
maybe drop could work vs an 8 raxing terran whos low eco and then on top of that if you kill scvs / make scv lift cuz he'll be low on units/eco... i haven't really thought about that too much
i want him thinking fast spire so my first hydra push can do a lot of dmg
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On March 05 2009 11:09 ret wrote:
You lost mainly because of your decision to go mutas so early, without a set econ. Imo either open completely with mutas or wait until you have at least 3 set bases, otherwise just get spire for carapace and keep droning and stay on hydraling. You were poorer for most of the game. Army positioning was also an issue.
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On March 05 2009 11:09 ret wrote:
the way i played it in the topic is the way i still play, mass drone as much as possible and get units in time to stop a mid game push, then get big for late game.
maybe drop could work vs an 8 raxing terran whos low eco and then on top of that if you kill scvs / make scv lift cuz he'll be low on units/eco... i haven't really thought about that too much
i want him thinking fast spire so my first hydra push can do a lot of dmg
I agree I like the way you play it.
I just like to show my hand, force him to go early tank, earlier second fact. Delay his Acad/Ebay so even if I can't stop his expo, I ruin his standard timing.
Drops are a way to keep preasure on when mutas and front door hydra can't.
I think doom droping is just like saying " here is a free win"
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Valhalla18444 Posts
study or iccup vs koreans, those are your choices
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Steve Post a warning in my op that threatens these vaginas to keep there excuses for there sexual preformances and not for my fucking thread please !
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ilove you steve!
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AttackZerg has motivated me to just sit down and play over 30 almost consecutive games.
What a champion.
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Austin10831 Posts
1-4 OTL
I played sumadream and fucked up so hard, it sent me into a tailspin of noobness.
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On March 05 2009 13:27 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
there u go
I just finished an hour and 42 minute zvp ... fucking koreans
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On March 05 2009 22:53 AttackZerg wrote:I just finished an hour and 42 minute zvp ... fucking koreans
o_o rep
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I just went from 11-9 to 13-18 what the FUCK. Fucking mass turtle Terrans are the gayest thing ever, dude made 139 siege tanks (vs. 118 vultures), 31 turrets, most of them in the middle of the map with mines in between. Fuck that SHIT.
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On March 06 2009 08:33 Cloud wrote:
Hello.. arbiters?
I actually openned with a semi-stove build so I had arbiters really early -_-
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2-1 vs koreans weee! loool
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fkkk after 70 games I'm failing to maintain my d+ much less move up to c-.
what's happening t.T i hope im not really this bad
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On March 07 2009 01:23 SnowFantasy wrote:fkkk after 70 games I'm failing to maintain my d+ much less move up to c-. what's happening t.T i hope im not really this bad
Early season is always this rough. I played the last 2 weeks of last season, was 24-13. Right now I am 14-21 n_n
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fanatacist I will upload my nearly 2 hour replay if you want to watch it but I mean the guy went afk with 15 minutes left think I couldn't kill him.... it really isn't a prize winning game.
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On March 07 2009 04:56 AttackZerg wrote:
fanatacist I will upload my nearly 2 hour replay if you want to watch it but I mean the guy went afk with 15 minutes left think I couldn't kill him.... it really isn't a prize winning game.
Then I want to see how gay he played to get such an advantage n_n
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Fucking War
Don't judge me on the bm. I was trying to get him to leave before he did what he did ^^
Edit: wtf, there is no reason to download this replay, I just posted for 1 insane person. Really guys its not worth it ^^.
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5-18 now. D players are too good for me T_T
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Thanks! Will look at it soon.
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I have played 3 games so far. Out of those two games, two zergs 4 pooled me twice. >_>
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played 2 games, perfect record 100% win rate, time to retire for this season. It just gets too easy this late in the season
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On March 07 2009 08:04 Racenilatr wrote:
I have played 3 games so far. Out of those two games, two zergs 4 pooled me twice. >_>
wow that sucks. I've never played 3 games and gotten 4pooled 4 times. That is a bad beat.
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I am so sick of PvZ on Python, holy fuck. They always have too many dra for me to zeechon push (I have to get storm and play with templar to not get overrun). Then they lurk contain me and my obs are late because I've been trying to get templar/storm, and they have overlord/scourge there just to make it even more fucking gay. After I break out they have 5 bases to me 2/3 and power drones, with marching ling/ultra/scourge/ovi armies. What the fuck?
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hehe yes I played like a faggot.
What can I say I went to bed, slept 30 minutes, woke up watched nada .... got restarcraftpumped and preceeded to do this.
Sunken count ? lol
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On March 07 2009 10:32 AttackZerg wrote:hehe yes I played like a faggot. What can I say I went to bed, slept 30 minutes, woke up watched nada .... got restarcraftpumped and preceeded to do this. Sunken count ? lol
It wasn't you, it was some fag online ):
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On March 07 2009 10:30 fanatacist wrote:
I am so sick of PvZ on Python, holy fuck. They always have too many dra for me to zeechon push (I have to get storm and play with templar to not get overrun). Then they lurk contain me and my obs are late because I've been trying to get templar/storm, and they have overlord/scourge there just to make it even more fucking gay. After I break out they have 5 bases to me 2/3 and power drones, with marching ling/ultra/scourge/ovi armies. What the fuck?
+1 SPEEDZEAL ONLY TIMING ATTACK DOOD HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???
Although honestly, if you did your 'zeechon' push (god, protosses give their builds some really gay names :< ) properly, it should work wonders on python vs hydra.
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hey fanatacist, pm oystein for some replays of +1 zealot or early attacks.
I'm sure your timing or earlygame scouting or harrass are off.
When its done right It hits before I can afford to mass sunken and unless I went super bitch 3 hat lurker ->5 before I have lurkers.
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On March 07 2009 14:26 AttackZerg wrote:
hey fanatacist, pm oystein for some replays of +1 zealot or early attacks.
I'm sure your timing or earlygame scouting or harrass are off.
When its done right It hits before I can afford to mass sunken and unless I went super bitch 3 hat lurker ->5 before I have lurkers.
Alright, will do. Thanks.
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I need to see progamer zergs own to get into killer-mood. I am only any good in sc when i am am aggressive haha.
When i stay calm just trying to macro without any mistakes i lose every game.
Well time to hit c-...cu in iccup, i am "courven"
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Whenever July wins I go on rampant game sprees using the build he did lol. After his game v FBH i was showing the Terrans the power of guardians and failing with queen just like my favorite pro lol
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