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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-27 14:08:15
February 27 2009 13:58 GMT
#21
On February 27 2009 22:31 AndreiD wrote:
Dude, I play Counter Strike: Source with a G7 way better than people with an MX518 to be honest.
First of all, this is the stupidest "proof" comparison I've ever seen. It's not even worth the effort to explain why because everyone with two eyes sees it.

Second, telling us you play Source hurts your credibility.

Third, you're using a wireless mouse for gaming. Right...

Fourth, you're just wrong.
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=21

Laser sensors historically have a much higher glitch rate when moving across large distances. The Ikari Laser is no exception, and unfortunately the optical version has a terrible liftoff distance.

Being wrong is fine, but don't act like an authority when you aren't. Especially if you're going to cause some poor sap to pay double a 518 for a G5, when they're really getting worse performance and fewer buttons.


If you want to try something exotic and not be able to control your mouse, just go to Control Panel -> Mouse -> Pointer Options -> and set your Motion all the way to fast.

Oh god. Do not do this. Leave your Windows sensitivity at default (6/11 I believe.) The method Windows uses to "speed up" is to skip pixels, thereby making the mouse move faster.

You're right that shape is more important and that DPI is overrated. The Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1/IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 are still two of the best gaming mice despite being old as dirt. The real trick to increasing performance is to overclock the USB port your mouse is connected to. Standard USB devices function at 125hz, but you can increase it up to 1000 and actually notice a performance increase, and it's not going to do any harm to the mouse or port.

http://www.overclock.net/faqs/73418-how-improve-mouse-response-accuracy-changing.html
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frankbg
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada335 Posts
February 27 2009 14:04 GMT
#22
Oh wow, I didn't even notice he said source, no wonder D: Probably plays with soemthing stupidly high like 7 sens lol.
AndreiD
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Romania48 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-27 14:16:09
February 27 2009 14:10 GMT
#23
I play with 5 win sens and 1.5 ingame at 800 dpi.

@ -slo.m1ke- yep, some laser mice are quite moody and prefer only single color surfaces. I use my mice on a SteelSeries QCK+ mat.
Adding that to the blog post.

@ Jibba, I solved the liftoff distance on the IKARI Optical by adding another pair of feet.
Also I know the ESReality review, I actually bought the Razer DeathAdder because of that review, only to find that it is quite bad at tracking on a QCK+ surface.

And dude, I'm fucking seriously curious where I said that Laser is better than optical ? Don't say shit like I encourage people to buy laser, I just said that FOR ME laser = optical and that I didn't get my laser mice to skip.
And I even stated that 800 dpi is enough for most people, hence I think I'm actually encouraging people to buy opticals.
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extracheez
Profile Joined January 2009
Australia151 Posts
February 27 2009 14:32 GMT
#24
I've used a few gaming mice and regular mice, I settled for my deathadder because it fits my hand just perfectly. I don't know what the op is saying about the LED getting hot... I have 2 deathadders in my house and neither of them get hot after any amount of use.

Also I think you don't put enough emphasis on how much a good mouse will improve your play. Of course a mouse is not equal to skill, but every time I go to a LAN caffe and use some shitty $2 logitech/generic brand mouse my accuracy and apm go to hell.

Anyways for an RTS all you need is a decent mouse. FPS is where you need the high DPI because in fast paced games like quake you can turn your mouse sensitivity right down, this coupled with a high DPI mouse = lots of accuracy.
AndreiD
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Romania48 Posts
February 27 2009 14:42 GMT
#25
The DeathAdder I had was one of the first, and it malfunctioned after a couple of months so probably the LED thing wasn't sunch a widespread problem (another friend who had a DeathAdder reported the same trouble with the LED though).

Well, I personally don't think a mouse would increase your gameplay too much, I consider that practice and hardwork will do that.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-27 14:53:13
February 27 2009 14:52 GMT
#26
Well, Razer is kind of known for products with a limited lifespan. Still, the early MS/Logitech mice are as good as you can get for FPS games and most small mice for RTS are excellent. You shouldn't need to spend more than $30 to get the best performance, anything above that is just for features/shape.
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AndreiD
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Romania48 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-27 15:12:58
February 27 2009 15:12 GMT
#27
Indeed.
I should of went in depth regarding mouse pads also, I think I'll do that on another blog post when I have time.
For me the QCK+ is one of the best atm.
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
February 27 2009 15:18 GMT
#28
what are some good ambidextrous mice... i'm left handed and it's really gay to find a mouse that works for me. i've been using a copperhead for a while, it's nice, but i want to know what else is out there.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
AndreiD
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Romania48 Posts
February 27 2009 15:26 GMT
#29
Microsoft 1.1a, Razer Salmosa, Logitech G1/G3 and I don't know what else to be honest...
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-27 16:19:15
February 27 2009 16:18 GMT
#30
I have in my possesion, the old explorer 3.0A, the G5, G1, a standard microsoft mouse optical 1.1A and a microsoft wireless optical mouse 2.0.

The microsoft wireless is the crappest. The razer deathadder which I recently bought is the BEST! the G5 comes close on being the best and also the explorer 3.0A. oh I also play something on a net cafe that uses the MX518 which in my opinion is worse than the G5 simply because of the surface and the feeling u get in ur hand. the MX518's is too slippy and the G5 feels like ur touching wood.

If I had to rate them from 1 to 10 i would give the deathadder 9.8 the explorer 3.0A 9.7 the G5 9.6 the G1 I found it perfect for starcraft but bad for fps games... dunno why... so I would give that a 8.5.

PS: I had 130 APM when I was using my G5 now that I bought the deathadder my APM is always above 170
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
AndreiD
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Romania48 Posts
February 27 2009 16:36 GMT
#31
My Starcraft APM is 100 max, 60 average ^^
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-27 17:00:54
February 27 2009 16:59 GMT
#32
mouse advice: use whatever mouse you want

OP you give absolutely no reason for anyone to follow your advice in your post. You don't support any of your conclusions with fact or anything that even suggests you have any knowledge on how mice operate at all. Is anyone supposed to care about the anecdotal reasons why a "CSS semi pro" (lol) prefers one mouse over another?

Not trying to be mean but if you want to write a guide on something it generally helps if you have some sort of knowledge or understanding of the subject, and you don't present any information to show that you do.
AndreiD
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Romania48 Posts
February 27 2009 17:20 GMT
#33
And what kind of knowledge would I require? Do I need to make my own mice to say that another is total crap?
I'm just a person who tried most of the gaming mice available today and pointed out some tips for anybody looking for a new mouse.
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KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 01:23:36
February 28 2009 01:23 GMT
#34
On February 27 2009 23:32 extracheez wrote:
I've used a few gaming mice and regular mice, I settled for my deathadder because it fits my hand just perfectly. I don't know what the op is saying about the LED getting hot... I have 2 deathadders in my house and neither of them get hot after any amount of use.

Also I think you don't put enough emphasis on how much a good mouse will improve your play. Of course a mouse is not equal to skill, but every time I go to a LAN caffe and use some shitty $2 logitech/generic brand mouse my accuracy and apm go to hell.

Anyways for an RTS all you need is a decent mouse. FPS is where you need the high DPI because in fast paced games like quake you can turn your mouse sensitivity right down, this coupled with a high DPI mouse = lots of accuracy.

nah DPI is pure shit. I don't know how much DPI my ms optical 1.1a had, but I'd guess about 800. This razer copperhead I'm using now has 2000dpi and has skipped at times, this has never happened to me with my Microsoft mouse.
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