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Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
February 25 2009 21:10 GMT
#1
ok my friend asked me generally why i he kept losing.

i sent him a link to the rec. threads in the strat section.

i told him not to read the builds until after u read the bare basics in teh begginer section.

idk if he read all of it. but was it the right thing to do? i still asnwered his questions about when to scout as a certain race.

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hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
February 25 2009 21:17 GMT
#2
how good is your friend?
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
February 25 2009 22:23 GMT
#3
this is wrong. he needs to know builds first so that he can start practicing on something and actually get results before he gets discouraged.

give him a build first. those "beginner stuffs" are pretty much intuition after a while of playing with a build and watching progamer vods.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-25 22:33:04
February 25 2009 22:32 GMT
#4
On February 26 2009 07:23 ramen247 wrote:
this is wrong. he needs to know builds first so that he can start practicing on something and actually get results before he gets discouraged.

give him a build first. those "beginner stuffs" are pretty much intuition after a while of playing with a build and watching progamer vods.

I disagree. You can see it in the people who learn to +1 Zealot rush but have no idea why it works, and how to react to any variations. The OP did the right thing in trying to teach him the fundamentals. Tell him to watch VODs and replays and try to understand why certain tactics and strategies work, a la this guide: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66048
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
February 25 2009 22:32 GMT
#5
I agree with about. Build orders are something that simply organize your play. This is what prevents most terrans from going wraiths versus protoss. Help him get a guideline into his game, and he can slowly add in hotkeys, micro, macro, etc.
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
February 25 2009 22:36 GMT
#6
Depending on how good your friend is this was a good idea or not. If he is brand knew to SC he won't know what 12 hatch or 10 gate meant. If he is knew just teach him the basics and the abbreviations for all the buildings and explain to him what every unit does and it's hot keys. If he is familiar with SC then I guess you did the right thing, but it is always good to know one build after you get the basics.
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TechniQ.UK
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United Kingdom391 Posts
February 25 2009 22:38 GMT
#7
After teaching my friend today i think that one of the best ways is after maybe the first/2nd day of playing and just getting used to things, to get him to speed up and get a bit better just have him play a computer, whilst you obs and dictate to him you know, not so much a build order but

e.g.

make a pylon here
you've stopped making probes keep making them
ok get another gate
rally those gates to the ramp


after doing this about 5 times they should be getting to grips a bit more with the speed of the game and some of the basic like using controls and making units etc..

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Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
February 26 2009 01:57 GMT
#8
On February 26 2009 07:38 TechniQ.UK wrote:
After teaching my friend today i think that one of the best ways is after maybe the first/2nd day of playing and just getting used to things, to get him to speed up and get a bit better just have him play a computer, whilst you obs and dictate to him you know, not so much a build order but

e.g.

make a pylon here
you've stopped making probes keep making them
ok get another gate
rally those gates to the ramp


after doing this about 5 times they should be getting to grips a bit more with the speed of the game and some of the basic like using controls and making units etc..



my friend did that with me once.

hes not that great. hes kinda n00b right now. but i can drill him :{ )
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
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