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spoiler rant

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t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
February 19 2009 15:17 GMT
#1
Fuck you KTF staff.

Can't you just tell your most important player to take a rest once in a while?

Look at what Lux did.

Now look at what Flash did.

T_T

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Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
February 19 2009 15:49 GMT
#2
Flash is out of BOTH STARLEGUES WTF

I guess I can cheer for savoir in MSL and Bisu in OSL
^______________^
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
February 19 2009 15:56 GMT
#3
Flash needs a new team seriously
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6173 Posts
February 19 2009 16:06 GMT
#4
On February 20 2009 00:56 o3.power91 wrote:
Flash needs a new team seriously

... he mostly need ppl in his team that can win a game :~\

I really tough ppl like hojjea, Tempest or even Luxury could do a bit BETTER...
n_n
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
February 19 2009 16:07 GMT
#5
child labor ftw
v-.-v
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada28 Posts
February 19 2009 16:14 GMT
#6
Flash got completely noobed.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 19 2009 16:35 GMT
#7
it's so sad

7 matches over two days, including deciding matches in both individual leagues... no one should be expected to handle that. it's really unfair.

this is like the extreme of what scheduling conflicts can do to a player. I honestly think Flash did what he did in game 3 against Leta because he just couldn't keep it together physically. The guy's a mental fortress, but the schedule fucked him so hard
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 19 2009 16:38 GMT
#8
i actually thought this was going to be a rant about spoilers instead of a rant with spoilers

fml
posting on liquid sites in current year
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 17:25:42
February 19 2009 17:11 GMT
#9
Well they ARE kinda trying to give him a break. Both of them really. If you look at the order of the players they have been sending out recently, Flash is ALWAYS last. Luxury seems to be going out second to last. I think they're trying to give them a break if they can afford to, but they don't want to lose any WL matches by not playing their best players.

EDIT: Ok, so I saw the schedule for this week and was off on the part about Luxury. However, Flash hasn't come out before 4th in like 3 or 4 matches now
Uff Da
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
February 19 2009 17:12 GMT
#10
No matter how good I am with staying away from LR threads I still find a means of spoiling games for myself. (I read this with Spirit's mindset) lol
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
February 19 2009 17:13 GMT
#11
On February 20 2009 00:56 o3.power91 wrote:
Flash needs a new team seriously


Or Luxury needs to lolWIN against some mediocre zerg when both him and flash have the damn OSL the night after. I'm pretty sure he can handle that along with all the practice he's putting into individual leagues you know?

I'm really not liking Luxury at the moment but then I never really have.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
February 19 2009 17:50 GMT
#12
yeah its so stupid that flash is out of both leagues considering the level of play he has been showing lately...

unfortunately his results have only been for his stupid fucking team that can't win 1 game
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
February 19 2009 17:52 GMT
#13
On February 20 2009 02:13 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2009 00:56 o3.power91 wrote:
Flash needs a new team seriously


Or Luxury needs to lolWIN against some mediocre zerg when both him and flash have the damn OSL the night after. I'm pretty sure he can handle that along with all the practice he's putting into individual leagues you know?

I'm really not liking Luxury at the moment but then I never really have.


don't hate the player, hate the game :|

I mean, we don't know what happened for sure, but it's probably true that Luxury practiced more for OSL than WL. However, it was probably a move supported by the staff because they expected Flash to win in the worst case. Or maybe not. Who knows.

Luxury tried his best while trying to take care of his individual league. Can't blame him for trying to win an OSL.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 18:27:54
February 19 2009 18:25 GMT
#14
isn't luxury the best zerg in practice? maybe they need to invest in some yoga, or concentration routines for him.

truly sub par performances by one of my favorite terrans ( second only to boxer ^ ^) i even favor him over Iloveoov, slightly

edit: L O L i somehow mixed Anytime with oov ..go figure
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
February 19 2009 18:27 GMT
#15
can we stop the 20-20 hindsight analysis? luxury lost a zvz based on maybe a few seconds of misexecution, that does not mean he prioritized OSL over WL, that's ridiculous.
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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
February 19 2009 18:29 GMT
#16
On February 20 2009 03:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
can we stop the 20-20 hindsight analysis? luxury lost a zvz based on maybe a few seconds of misexecution, that does not mean he prioritized OSL over WL, that's ridiculous.


true, but it still holds true that he should out perform most zergs considering his alleged success in practices, but i guess the pressure is too much for most to handle
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
February 19 2009 18:36 GMT
#17
Wow, shit. And he HAD to eliminate JD from the MSL first too...T_T
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Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
February 19 2009 19:20 GMT
#18
Playing flash last seems to not be working. All of his teammates lose and this puts him in an extremely stressful position where he has to all-kill for his team to win. KTF needs to get some better players or force there other players to practice for 17 hours a day and give Flash a break. Maybe let him go on a vacation to Hiwaii or something.
^______________^
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
February 19 2009 20:07 GMT
#19
just start a petition.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-19 20:15:40
February 19 2009 20:15 GMT
#20
On February 20 2009 03:27 Hot_Bid wrote:
can we stop the 20-20 hindsight analysis? luxury lost a zvz based on maybe a few seconds of misexecution, that does not mean he prioritized OSL over WL, that's ridiculous.


I think it's more of the fact that Luxury went to KTF, then underpreformed in PL keeping the pressure on Flash. THEN he got the first all-kill in WL and then proceeded to fall back into obscurity.

It's just a little bit confusing, he had two very strong vZ opponents that he all but dismantled in his individual leagues with little effort but is struggling so hard in WL. It just doesn't make sense.

I think people are more confused at his lopsided as hell performance and Flash having to back it up then disliking Luxury out and out. Cept me, but I haven't liked him since he beat Flash back last MSL >.<
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
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