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Archaic
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On February 17 2009 08:27 Cloud wrote: Which merits could ignorance possibly have? Knowing some things can cause you stress. For example, if someone told you that you were going to be killed that day, you would live that day significantly more paranoid, and more stressful than if somebody abruptly walked up to you and shot you. EDIT: Extra comma. EDIT2: I personally agree that ignorance is bliss, but personally, I believe that knowing is much more advantageous, or at least for my personality. | ||
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naonao
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On February 17 2009 08:27 Cloud wrote: Which merits could ignorance possibly have? It can prevent you from thinking of unneccesary things that will disturb your peace of mind, and cause you to worry incessantly. | ||
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On February 17 2009 08:24 PH wrote: It really depends on the degree of a metaphysical standpoint you want to look at it from. It's a highly personal and subjective question as well. If you're a Socrates, then ignorance is damnable. If not, ignorance does have its merits. But that would imply that what we call 'ignorance' is subject-specific, and doesn't follow any universal rules as to whether it leads to happiness or suffering, no? Surely there must be a better way to understanding it than that? That said, I largely agree with armed_'s post; I don't think knowledge can be directly correlated with amount of suffering, and that there must be more intermediaries involved than what humans are currently willing to consider. Although I don't think said post will really help the OP... =P | ||
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armed_
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On February 17 2009 08:30 Archaic wrote: For example, if someone told you that you were going to be killed that day, you would live that day significantly more paranoid, and more stressful than if somebody abruptly walked up to you and shot you. Maybe you would, but that doesn't apply to everybody. How someone would treat a situation like that is what determines their happiness, not the fact that they have knowledge as opposed to being ignorant. | ||
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Cloud
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On February 17 2009 08:30 Archaic wrote: Knowing some things can cause you stress. For example, if someone told you that you were going to be killed that day, you would live that day significantly more paranoid, and more stressful than if somebody abruptly walked up to you and shot you. EDIT: Extra comma. EDIT2: I personally agree that ignorance is bliss, but personally, I believe that knowing is much more advantageous, or at least for my personality. But knowing that you are going to be murdered might just save you. Or would you be pissed at the guy who tipped you off because he made the, presumedly, last moments of your life, miserable? On February 17 2009 08:30 naonao wrote: It can prevent you from thinking of unneccesary things that will disturb your peace of mind, and cause you to worry incessantly. What do you mean about thinking unneccessary things? I mean apparently, everybody who thinks being knowledgeable brings you misery is because they think that that knowledge is just about how shitty the world really is, but i believe that knowledge will also give you objectivity. And what about the other side of the coin? To give a really simple example, the more i know about a sport, the more i can enjoy it. Also, merit, entails that there was some effort placed. Do you really have to try hard to be ignorant? | ||
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On February 17 2009 08:30 Archaic wrote: Knowing some things can cause you stress. For example, if someone told you that you were going to be killed that day, you would live that day significantly more paranoid, and more stressful than if somebody abruptly walked up to you and shot you. well technically it's still what you don't know that is causing you the stress. my opinion at least | ||
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BlackJack
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ignorance is bliss | ||
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naonao
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On February 17 2009 09:56 BlackJack wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otLq52hhKfg ignorance is bliss Did they guy really not know it was his? O.o | ||
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HamerD
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Knickknack
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For instance in Pi it is not as simple as just saying that he is now happier because he is ignorant. It's more like he had to get away from the madness. Anyway, clearly sometimes not knowing something can make you happier than knowing it. But I find this far from saying that ignorance is bliss. If you take bliss as a kind of relaxed contentment clearly ignorance as bliss holds some truth. But if you view bliss as supreme happiness, utter joy or contentment, feeling one with the universe, I don't see simple not knowing something causing this kind of state. Take a pragmatic look at the extremes of ignorance in the world. Are people with mental retardation more often blissful/happy? The answer is no as far as I know. But perhaps it is possible to work yourself into a state of blissful ignorance. E.g. thinking god has a mission for you and all your acts are of his design and you feel fantastic. But on second thought, it does not seem ignorance is driving this, but rather delusion. Lastly there seems to be a larger question of what is of greatest value. Is it happiness/bliss at all costs? Pretty clearly 'real' happiness seems to be of more value than the ignorant sort as it has a relation to 'the way things are', even if it feels the same. | ||
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blissful ignorance will eventually result in a rude awakening | ||
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HeavOnEarth
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On February 17 2009 09:56 BlackJack wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otLq52hhKfg ignorance is bliss ROFL | ||
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naonao
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On February 17 2009 13:47 Duke wrote: SPOILERS ON THE MOVIE Pi PLEASE FUCK Sorry, since it was a super old movie i assumed it wasn't neccesary. | ||
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