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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 23:28:38
February 16 2009 23:28 GMT
#21
ha i finished IB and im in university now. graduating from university this year.

good luck XD
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
February 16 2009 23:28 GMT
#22
You can be retarded and not ignorant about it or you can be retarded and not knowing it. I would rather know im a phailure in the world then not
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 23:32:00
February 16 2009 23:30 GMT
#23
On February 17 2009 08:27 Cloud wrote:
Which merits could ignorance possibly have?


Knowing some things can cause you stress. For example, if someone told you that you were going to be killed that day, you would live that day significantly more paranoid, and more stressful than if somebody abruptly walked up to you and shot you.

EDIT: Extra comma.

EDIT2: I personally agree that ignorance is bliss, but personally, I believe that knowing is much more advantageous, or at least for my personality.
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 23:30:40
February 16 2009 23:30 GMT
#24
On February 17 2009 08:27 Cloud wrote:
Which merits could ignorance possibly have?

It can prevent you from thinking of unneccesary things that will disturb your peace of mind, and cause you to worry incessantly.
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
February 16 2009 23:32 GMT
#25
On February 17 2009 08:24 PH wrote:
It really depends on the degree of a metaphysical standpoint you want to look at it from. It's a highly personal and subjective question as well.

If you're a Socrates, then ignorance is damnable. If not, ignorance does have its merits.

But that would imply that what we call 'ignorance' is subject-specific, and doesn't follow any universal rules as to whether it leads to happiness or suffering, no? Surely there must be a better way to understanding it than that?

That said, I largely agree with armed_'s post; I don't think knowledge can be directly correlated with amount of suffering, and that there must be more intermediaries involved than what humans are currently willing to consider. Although I don't think said post will really help the OP... =P
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HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 16 2009 23:39 GMT
#26
I don't think stupid people are any happier than clever people. Different things make people happier. Stupid people might find basic things very fun, but they also find basic problems very frustrating.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
February 16 2009 23:39 GMT
#27
On February 17 2009 08:30 Archaic wrote:
For example, if someone told you that you were going to be killed that day, you would live that day significantly more paranoid, and more stressful than if somebody abruptly walked up to you and shot you.

Maybe you would, but that doesn't apply to everybody. How someone would treat a situation like that is what determines their happiness, not the fact that they have knowledge as opposed to being ignorant.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 00:00:45
February 16 2009 23:54 GMT
#28
On February 17 2009 08:30 Archaic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 08:27 Cloud wrote:
Which merits could ignorance possibly have?


Knowing some things can cause you stress. For example, if someone told you that you were going to be killed that day, you would live that day significantly more paranoid, and more stressful than if somebody abruptly walked up to you and shot you.

EDIT: Extra comma.

EDIT2: I personally agree that ignorance is bliss, but personally, I believe that knowing is much more advantageous, or at least for my personality.


But knowing that you are going to be murdered might just save you. Or would you be pissed at the guy who tipped you off because he made the, presumedly, last moments of your life, miserable?

On February 17 2009 08:30 naonao wrote:
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On February 17 2009 08:27 Cloud wrote:
Which merits could ignorance possibly have?

It can prevent you from thinking of unneccesary things that will disturb your peace of mind, and cause you to worry incessantly.


What do you mean about thinking unneccessary things? I mean apparently, everybody who thinks being knowledgeable brings you misery is because they think that that knowledge is just about how shitty the world really is, but i believe that knowledge will also give you objectivity. And what about the other side of the coin? To give a really simple example, the more i know about a sport, the more i can enjoy it.

Also, merit, entails that there was some effort placed. Do you really have to try hard to be ignorant?
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 17 2009 00:37 GMT
#29
On February 17 2009 08:30 Archaic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 08:27 Cloud wrote:
Which merits could ignorance possibly have?


Knowing some things can cause you stress. For example, if someone told you that you were going to be killed that day, you would live that day significantly more paranoid, and more stressful than if somebody abruptly walked up to you and shot you.


well technically it's still what you don't know that is causing you the stress.

my opinion at least
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 17 2009 00:43 GMT
#30
I agree with buddha with the ignorance =suffering, but i am sure he means it in a large view point, as in, if nobody was ignorant we would have heaven on earth (nobody starving etc etc).on a personal level, i think ignorance is bliss, i think during Rwanda the biggest search on google was paris hiltons drunk driving (or something else equally stupid).
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Flames257
Profile Joined February 2009
United States7 Posts
February 17 2009 00:55 GMT
#31
I think that since you waited to do this Philo IA for so long, then Ignorance is not bliss, because you ignored your Philo IA and now you have to do it.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 00:57:24
February 17 2009 00:56 GMT
#32


ignorance is bliss
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
February 17 2009 00:59 GMT
#33
On February 17 2009 09:56 BlackJack wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otLq52hhKfg

ignorance is bliss

Did they guy really not know it was his? O.o
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 17 2009 01:07 GMT
#34
more correct would be 'worrying less is good'
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 01:52:06
February 17 2009 01:39 GMT
#35
'ignorance is bliss' is way too general and will run into problems.
For instance in Pi it is not as simple as just saying that he is now happier because he is ignorant. It's more like he had to get away from the madness.

Anyway, clearly sometimes not knowing something can make you happier than knowing it.
But I find this far from saying that ignorance is bliss.
If you take bliss as a kind of relaxed contentment clearly ignorance as bliss holds some truth.
But if you view bliss as supreme happiness, utter joy or contentment, feeling one with the universe, I don't see simple not knowing something causing this kind of state.

Take a pragmatic look at the extremes of ignorance in the world.
Are people with mental retardation more often blissful/happy?
The answer is no as far as I know.

But perhaps it is possible to work yourself into a state of blissful ignorance. E.g. thinking god has a mission for you and all your acts are of his design and you feel fantastic. But on second thought, it does not seem ignorance is driving this, but rather delusion.

Lastly there seems to be a larger question of what is of greatest value.
Is it happiness/bliss at all costs?
Pretty clearly 'real' happiness seems to be of more value than the ignorant sort as it has a relation to 'the way things are', even if it feels the same.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 17 2009 01:43 GMT
#36
for every up there is a down
blissful ignorance will eventually result in a rude awakening
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
February 17 2009 02:15 GMT
#37
Yea but only if you are truly ignorant
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 17 2009 04:06 GMT
#38
On February 17 2009 09:56 BlackJack wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otLq52hhKfg

ignorance is bliss

ROFL
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Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
February 17 2009 04:47 GMT
#39
SPOILERS ON THE MOVIE Pi PLEASE FUCK
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
February 17 2009 04:52 GMT
#40
On February 17 2009 13:47 Duke wrote:
SPOILERS ON THE MOVIE Pi PLEASE FUCK

Sorry, since it was a super old movie i assumed it wasn't neccesary.
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