• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:55
CET 16:55
KST 00:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1736 users

finally reached C- on iccup!!

Blogs > OMin
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
OMin
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States545 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-30 04:17:03
January 30 2009 04:15 GMT
#1
finally, after many long months of frustratingly being stuck at D+, I reached C-!

This season was particularly frustrating for me. A few seasons ago (around season 6 or so), I reached C- by some miraculous fluke... here's what i have to say about it:

at that time (about august 2008), I was a worse player than I am right now in many ways. I would consider 150-160 APM games very good games, whereas now I play normally at 160-170 APM. I don't know how I even got C- then (it was only for like.. 2 games), but I was FAR better this season than I was back then. I have superior game sense, far superior macro, better control, better timing.... I just dont get it.

However, I initially had trouble pushing past early D+ this season.. I hit D+ about 3 weeks or so into the season after there was some semblance of settling down in terms of higher level players clearing D-dom. However, I seemed UNABLE to penetrate into mid and high D+. Literally, every other game I played would be some sort of C or higher player upping a new account or just smurfing.

I DID contribute to me being stuck at lower D+... I always asked for re versus superior C+/B- ish players, like some guys from wD) clan. That hurt my score, but I took it with good attitude and used these chances as opportunities to learn a thing or two from high level players. I don't feel too much of a difference from doing this, but I guess it's the thought that counts?

Also, my FUCKING WIRELESS INTERNET contributed to my D+ stasis. My fucking piece of shit wireless adapter LOVES to randomly cut off while I'm doing stuff... and during starcraft is no exception. So basically, if its been 2+ minutes and my wireless decides to die on me, then I can expect to lose 50 points.... so fucking annoying, not to mention kids accuse you of drophacking (even though they get points off of me T_T)

but anyways... so for some reason, I began winning a bunch of games starting yesterday... to the point where i was 2700-2800, and I was like "OMG IM SO CLOSE".

I have to say, I did cheat a bit by pwning 2 D level players, but I feel that my C- is totally legitimate considering HOW OFTEN i re'd superior C and higher players knowing that i'd lose. and don't forget the points ive lost from disconnect... my internet is so annoying. if anyone knows how to fix this, please let me know.

But anyways, I made the final push to C- today, and I feel just great!

**
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
January 30 2009 04:17 GMT
#2
GJ! Keep fighting. I never got past D but I hope to try again some day.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 30 2009 04:19 GMT
#3
woot ;]
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
January 30 2009 04:26 GMT
#4
Gratz!!! You are now holder of the yellow Letter!
I feel like pwning noobs
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 30 2009 04:28 GMT
#5
congratulations, now go back to D to restart your trainning young padawan.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
January 30 2009 04:28 GMT
#6
I went *exactly* 50% so far this iccup season, just reaching d+. I have yet to lose a single game that went past the ten minute mark. I really have no idea where I belong or where I will end up. ICCUP can be quite frustrating. Congrats mate.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
January 30 2009 04:31 GMT
#7
Nice Job. Now only if I had the motivation to play period.
ya had ya shot kid!
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
January 30 2009 04:35 GMT
#8
ohhh yes i can remember the day i hit C- for the first time T.T.... memories any ways the last 2 seasons i hit C for the first time so my new goal is C+ good luck with the push to higher and prettier letter grades. most importantly like you said you gotta play better players even if it means losing points and uglying up your record so if you wanna make it big don't be afraid to lose good luck^^
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 30 2009 04:40 GMT
#9
keep fighting!!~
GrimAngel
Profile Joined September 2008
United States416 Posts
January 30 2009 05:01 GMT
#10
congrats!! I've also reached C- previously through some fluke, but quickly got shot back down to D+ and now I'm basically stuck on the lower levels of D+ lol. My goal is to reach C- again and maintain it throughout the season. Grats again on reaching C-!
Wan step ahead!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 30 2009 05:02 GMT
#11
Good job and thanks for the inspiration

Once 2nd semester comes along... hehehehe
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
January 30 2009 05:44 GMT
#12
Congratulations!
ModeratorGodfather
TaP.Nuada
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States428 Posts
January 30 2009 05:46 GMT
#13
Well, the reason you may have hit a wall earlier on this season could be due to the fact that I think some people wait a few weeks to start in order to avoid the high level players still clearing low-level ranks.

IMO you're "true" rank is the one obtained in the last week of the season. If you get stuck at a certain rank during the last week. That's probably you're "true" rank.
http://binarybeast.com/ Free Tournament Hosting!
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
January 30 2009 05:48 GMT
#14
Alright, awesome. Now it's time for you to spend many long months being frustratingly stuck at C-

gogo C !
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
January 30 2009 05:59 GMT
#15
I remember when I hit C- for the first time, I finally felt like I hit a landmark in my ability. Keep on going, breaking out of the c range is gonna require twice as much work as before!
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
January 30 2009 06:02 GMT
#16
Welcome to the yellow lettered ranks man! =D

Btw, what race u play?
OMin
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States545 Posts
January 30 2009 06:11 GMT
#17
thanks guys!

@ EsX_Raptor - im a t user, i mostly dodge tvt though
@BanZu - 2nd semester senior? regardless, just don't give up bro, it may take months like it did for me, but it will pay off in the end!

im just wondering, what do you guys feel are the dividing factors between D+ and C-?
from my experience, the C- players have:
-much better mechanics than steady D+'s
-better control and reaction
-better multitasking
-better unit production
-sneakier play and more trickery involved

what else?
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3344 Posts
January 30 2009 06:25 GMT
#18
I am assuming that he plays Terran cause his icon is a SCV. I'm really glad for you. I remember reaching C- long time ago then constantly getting stuck at C before reaching C+ season 8 and 9. I only reached it at the end of the season so I still consider myself a C level player. Its really motivating to reach a new rank even if it is just for 1 day.
김택용 Fighting!
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-30 07:23:31
January 30 2009 07:22 GMT
#19
After long time of inactivity (I used to play in National Team Of Greece) I started Iccup like 3-4 weeks ago, having played about 90 games with a score of 43-44, I just hit C- yesterday too I got 3464 points I think. Tho not many people are around nowadays to play in my country, just sataNik,TagoMago,Zatoichi(kinda inactive),coulthard,Dea[LighT] and TaSSa which he is too kinda inactive. Now if I pass the C level I will be considered once again a top5 player in my country yoohoo :D http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/ladder/1x1/greece.html

So Grats to us both and there is a lot more improvement going in the future. So if u wanna get better just mass play games, dont care about what stats opponents have etc just mass game and win or lose its always a improvement if you understand why u lost etc.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
MasterZilla
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Sweden234 Posts
January 30 2009 07:25 GMT
#20
Congratulations on your C-, I hope I can join you in those ranks soon
For Aiur! - If you reach for the stars and miss, you still might end up walking among the clouds.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko473
Livibee 199
Rex 96
SC2Nice 32
RushiSC 27
DivinesiaTV 14
trigger 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 2014
Hyuk 804
Mini 783
Soma 710
Larva 691
Stork 674
Snow 258
ZerO 237
Rush 172
Aegong 161
[ Show more ]
Sharp 149
BeSt 127
Hyun 92
Barracks 92
sorry 83
910 68
EffOrt 64
NotJumperer 55
Shuttle 55
Yoon 48
Sea.KH 47
ToSsGirL 35
JYJ 31
Mind 29
soO 28
Sexy 19
Terrorterran 17
Shine 11
Movie 11
Bale 7
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
qojqva3177
Dendi854
syndereN423
420jenkins359
League of Legends
C9.Mang0433
Counter-Strike
allub275
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor48
Other Games
Grubby4917
singsing2059
hiko920
B2W.Neo490
Hui .373
Fuzer 359
Liquid`VortiX158
RotterdaM142
QueenE121
ArmadaUGS101
Mew2King56
ZerO(Twitch)18
Trikslyr1
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV1109
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 42
• naamasc238
• poizon28 16
• Adnapsc2 5
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV456
• lizZardDota259
• Noizen42
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
1h 35m
OSC
20h 5m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.