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China3334 Posts
1. I don't argue with any Flash or Jaedong or Savior fanboy.
2. Compared to once an OSL group of 3 former champions (Oov, July and Nada), a Jaedong/Flash/FBH/Hwasin group is not really a big deal. Don't forget neither FBH nor Hwasin has been in a major final.
3. Once an OSL group selection, everyone got excited because a new season would start with the previous OSL champion (Nal_rA) versus the previous MSL champion (Oov). It brought so much hype and a dramatic scene. Bisu did the same thing once before, which unfortunately he lost to Jaedong. I think it's enough. Expecting Bisu picks up the toughest opponent every time when he has other choices is not fair. He's served progaming fans (general, not specific) pretty well.
4. XellOs was once considered a weak TvP player. So he desperately wanted to prove his TvP by picking up Zeus after he beat Yellow in the previous OSL finals. (If you don't know Zeus, he's once a great Terran killer.) XellOs lost to Zeus afterwards and did not even make into Ro8. I'd like to see Bisu win another title in a PvT final but I don't think he needs to prove his PvT in the first round of the new season. He's patient, he could wait.
5. I really love Plexa's TLFE "To Bolt is to Boxer". Talking about the showmanship, Bisu has done a good job on March 3rd, 2007 and yesterday. Although it took a bit longer to obtain 3 MSL titles to meet Savior's pre-March-3rd words, he did it. He won 3 MSLs and came back to pick up Savior. It's dramatic enough to me. They all know, what fans expect the most. There's always a choice between practicality and heroism. No one can say it's 100% sure Bisu will beat Savior. What's unexpected usually is the most memorable.
So, what I saw is Bisu made an interesting Group A (oh I really want to see Bisu give a lesson to the cocky kid, what's his name? Magma?) and a funny group F. This is showmanship, no matter how far he can make in this MSL.
P.S
I don't care if they pretend being good companies as they look like. It's showtime.
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In that picture savior is secretly thinking : Oh my god what have i done
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Hungary11282 Posts
On January 09 2009 07:47 Emlary wrote:
2. Compared to once an OSL group of 3 former champions (Oov, July and Nada), a Jaedong/Flash/FBH/Hwasin group is not really a big deal. Don't forget neither FBH nor Hwasin has been in a major final.
I totally don't mind Bisu's decision, as he had this cute reason with the three titles. Bisu vs. Savior will be great to watch, no matter what.
However I do not agree that this group is not a big deal. Jaedong vs. Flash has been THE rivalry for the entire first half of 2008 and both of them are by far the top contenders, seen across the whole year. That alone would make quite a storyline. But you have FBH too, who is doing all he can to build up a true rivalry with Jaedong, and Hwasin, who on a good day (as seen against Mind) can still beat anyone.
I think it is the constellation of the two dominating players of 2008 against two true contenders who - at least in the two matchups to play - can beat anyone in progaming.
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I think bisu has planned to pick up savior all the way, group F is a result of multiple events, it was not only KTY
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China3334 Posts
On January 09 2009 07:54 Aesop wrote:
However I do not agree that this group is not a big deal. Jaedong vs. Flash has been THE rivalry for the entire first half of 2008 and both of them are by far the top contenders, seen across the whole year. That alone would make quite a storyline. But you have FBH too, who is doing all he can to build up a true rivalry with Jaedong, and Hwasin, who on a good day (as seen against Mind) can still beat anyone.
I think it is the constellation of the two dominating players of 2008 against two true contenders who - at least in the two matchups to play - can beat anyone in progaming.
I don't see how Flash/JD/FBH/Hwasin is far more crazy. Still 2 players out of 4 will make this group. In that Oov/July/Nada group, July kept a decent record against Oov, Oov hold a great record against Nada, and Nada finally beat July to win another OSL. (edit: it was late 2004 to early 2005, all of three were in their good days, at least not in a slump.)
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Hungary11282 Posts
On January 09 2009 08:04 Emlary wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 07:54 Aesop wrote:
However I do not agree that this group is not a big deal. Jaedong vs. Flash has been THE rivalry for the entire first half of 2008 and both of them are by far the top contenders, seen across the whole year. That alone would make quite a storyline. But you have FBH too, who is doing all he can to build up a true rivalry with Jaedong, and Hwasin, who on a good day (as seen against Mind) can still beat anyone.
I think it is the constellation of the two dominating players of 2008 against two true contenders who - at least in the two matchups to play - can beat anyone in progaming. I don't see how Flash/JD/FBH/Hwasin is far more crazy. Still 2 players out of 4 will make this group. In that Oov/July/Nada group, July kept a decent record against Oov, Oov hold a great record against Nada, and Nada finally beat July to win another OSL.
I wasn't claiming that this group is a bigger deal, simply that - at the time being - it is hard to conjecture a group where the outcome is more uncertain and where more programing emotions are at stake, also taking into account that this only the Ro32!
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China3334 Posts
One more thing, I'm sorry to bring up some oldschool days as the counterpart. Because I was out of the progaming scene from Apr 05 to July 07 :O
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On January 09 2009 07:48 arb wrote:
In that picture savior is secretly thinking : Oh my god what have i done
I can't be alone in this but I think savior is pretty happy, lol. Bisu may be unbeatable for him, but two weak ZvZ players aren't. Sure a hell of a lot easier than group F would have been for him. I almost wonder if Bisu had told him earlier (since they seem to be friendly), "No matter what happens before me, I'll make my group 2 zergs and you. Good for me, good for you, great for showmanship  "
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lol at sea in that picture, he looks like hes jealous, or just death staring someone.
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Ooh, Bisu and sAviOr pimpin' it up in that picture
I hope sAviOr puts up a good fight
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United States17042 Posts
On January 09 2009 08:38 Camlito wrote:
lol at sea in that picture, he looks like hes jealous, or just death staring someone.
Sea looks like he's thinking darkly in the background about how he might find a way to compete with savior/bisu.
Good Luck Sea. You'll need it xD
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On January 09 2009 08:48 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 08:38 Camlito wrote:
lol at sea in that picture, he looks like hes jealous, or just death staring someone. Sea looks like he's thinking darkly in the background about how he might find a way to compete with savior/bisu. Good Luck Sea. You'll need it xD
Omg i lol'd, I didn't even notice him.
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i'm not a fan myself, but I want bisu's jacket badly
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I've noticed in previous MSL group selections that Bisu and Savior sit next to each other.
Is it all for show or are they real friends? It's definitely not alphabetical order and their seeds are too far apart for them to sit side by side... If they are friends, Savior must have swallowed a lot of pride to even talk to him.
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