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esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
December 18 2008 18:51 GMT
#1
Right now we've got the qualifiers for the leagues going on.

Many times big name players falter in this stage (or even the previous one).

If i were OGN/MBC, I would be auto-berthing players that generate interest in the games. Savior could be on an 0-20 streak but it doesnt matter, we will be excited for and watch his games. I'd love to see FBH play in the OSL.

Because of the miniscule differences in skill nowadays, there is a constant revolving door of players. This makes it hard for a fan to connect with the players and really love them, where as in sports like baseball or football you've got massive team alligance.

So for god sakes, when you get a player with that sort of magic air around him, put him in your starleague. I want to see FBH and savior in the osl, not fucking rock or any other guy who's games do absolutely nothing for me and who's games i probably wouldnt watch anyway.

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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-18 18:54:11
December 18 2008 18:53 GMT
#2
Seems kinda unfair to me...

People should be in on merit and skill not popularity.

Edit:And I'd rather watch an in form player I haven't seen before than some legend who just doesn't have it any more.
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
December 18 2008 18:56 GMT
#3
I think we'll stick to RESULTS
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
December 18 2008 19:01 GMT
#4
While we're at it, lets rig matches, and create fake dramatic back-stories behind every match!

YES SC:BW IS FINALLY TURNING INTO THE WWE I KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN!!!11
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Ginseng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-18 19:03:03
December 18 2008 19:01 GMT
#5
On December 19 2008 03:56 SayaSP wrote:
I think we'll stick to RESULTS


That and just because players are losing in starleagues, does not necessarily mean they will lose fans to connect with. These leagues aren't only for the past and current "celebrities", they're also for newcomers and experienced alike to prove their skill in sc to the people.
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
December 18 2008 19:03 GMT
#6
On December 19 2008 04:01 Butigroove wrote:
While we're at it, lets rig matches, and create fake dramatic back-stories behind every match!

YES SC:BW IS FINALLY TURNING INTO THE WWE I KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN!!!11


if that ever happened id go play WoW
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
December 18 2008 19:09 GMT
#7
Explain how a no-namer that has more skill than all of the big name pros ATM are supposed to become popular if this happens.
^-^
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
December 18 2008 19:19 GMT
#8
if they had done this from the beginning it'd still just be boxer vs yellow in every starleague finals!! woohoo!
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
December 18 2008 19:25 GMT
#9
Well I'm really glad you're not.
No I'm never serious.
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 18 2008 19:45 GMT
#10
Not going to happen.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 18 2008 19:50 GMT
#11
they do this already by seeding the top 4 players automatically from the previous season, right?

It seems dumb at this point, because there are a lot of old players that generate interest, but they don't really deserve to be there. Gamerito would generate a ton of interest, as would nal_ra and oov, and I don't think they deserve an automatic berth past the group stages.
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 18 2008 21:42 GMT
#12
Yeah this is what special events are for isn't it?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 18 2008 21:49 GMT
#13
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
December 18 2008 22:28 GMT
#14
Remember that all the "popular" players at the moment were "no names" back then as well. Who knows, the next Boxer or Savior might arise in the batch of new players.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1079 Posts
December 18 2008 23:18 GMT
#15
good results => skills => interrest/fans
amirite?

Then of course ceremonies ala fbh attracts some retarded fans as well.

mostly harmless
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-18 23:20:30
December 18 2008 23:20 GMT
#16
Although it's more fun to watch the popular players play, doing it all the time would wear out the significance of watching, for example, sAviOr getting into the MSL

Ironically, the act of playing the popular players all the time takes away what makes watching them special
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51418 Posts
December 19 2008 00:34 GMT
#17
Worst idea ever.
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gEzUS
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada371 Posts
December 19 2008 00:52 GMT
#18
epic fail...
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