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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
November 11 2008 23:33 GMT
#1
What should I do?

Well I am planning to write an "ez-mode" protos D to C level PvT and PvP guide. I can't write a PvZ guide to save my life because I can't play PvZ to save my life (honestly).

What do you guys think, any suggestions?

*
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
statix
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States1760 Posts
November 11 2008 23:36 GMT
#2
only if it includes storks groundbreaking new strategy
SCC-Caliban
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 11 2008 23:38 GMT
#3
You mean a build order for DT rush?
No I'm never serious.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 11 2008 23:40 GMT
#4
500 points you mean?
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 11 2008 23:43 GMT
#5
I think every matchups has a pretty decent guide for it, at least. I dont really see the contribution in writing a guide which is supposed to power you from D to C-. Think of something else imo, or just wait to 1k to do anything since 500 isnt really that big of a milestone.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
November 11 2008 23:47 GMT
#6
On November 12 2008 08:43 SpiralArchitect wrote:
I think every matchups has a pretty decent guide for it, at least. I dont really see the contribution in writing a guide which is supposed to power you from D to C-. Think of something else imo, or just wait to 1k to do anything since 500 isnt really that big of a milestone.


2v2 guides are still severely lacking
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-12 00:23:53
November 11 2008 23:49 GMT
#7
8 pylon
10 gate
11 gas
14 core
15 pylon epic fail

add one gate, citadel, 2 dts -> win

alt+q+q
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 11 2008 23:54 GMT
#8
Guide would be like:

1a2a3a4t, enter, gg, enter.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 11 2008 23:56 GMT
#9
On November 12 2008 08:49 clazziquai wrote:
8 pylon
10 gate
11 gas
14 core
15 gas

add one gate, citadel, 2 dts -> win

alt+q+q


Is it better to 15 gas at your natural, or kill the one you built earlier and rebuild it there. If so, when do you pull all your workers to attack your assimilator.

Do you usually expect to win after queuing the 2 dts or after they pop out.

Should you alt+q+q before or after calling your opponent a noob?
No I'm never serious.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 12 2008 00:23 GMT
#10
ROFL WHOOPS 15 GAS!! i meant 15 pylon ^^
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
November 12 2008 02:06 GMT
#11
YEA YEA, I'm A DRAGOON. BYAH BYAH
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
November 12 2008 14:25 GMT
#12
On November 12 2008 08:54 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Guide would be like:

1a2a3a4t, enter, gg, enter.


Do not forget 8p9p0p when you're writing a protoss strat guide.
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
November 12 2008 16:08 GMT
#13
Im pretty sure you can dt-rush your way to C-
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 12 2008 17:55 GMT
#14
6000.. soon!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
November 12 2008 18:14 GMT
#15
On November 12 2008 08:43 SpiralArchitect wrote:
I think every matchups has a pretty decent guide for it, at least. I dont really see the contribution in writing a guide which is supposed to power you from D to C-. Think of something else imo, or just wait to 1k to do anything since 500 isnt really that big of a milestone.


our terran guides are pretty old
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
November 12 2008 18:22 GMT
#16
I can write a D to D+ ZvP guide

9pool speedling without the speed
expand
tech to spire
muta scourge
gg

This is how I win against dumber than rock Protoss
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
November 12 2008 18:45 GMT
#17
On November 13 2008 03:14 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 08:43 SpiralArchitect wrote:
I think every matchups has a pretty decent guide for it, at least. I dont really see the contribution in writing a guide which is supposed to power you from D to C-. Think of something else imo, or just wait to 1k to do anything since 500 isnt really that big of a milestone.


our terran guides are pretty old


BigBalls + BlueIris guides are even older -_-
^-^
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
November 12 2008 18:54 GMT
#18
On November 13 2008 03:45 Equinox_kr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 03:14 fusionsdf wrote:
On November 12 2008 08:43 SpiralArchitect wrote:
I think every matchups has a pretty decent guide for it, at least. I dont really see the contribution in writing a guide which is supposed to power you from D to C-. Think of something else imo, or just wait to 1k to do anything since 500 isnt really that big of a milestone.


our terran guides are pretty old


BigBalls + BlueIris guides are even older -_-


yeah but you have a big brand new pvt guide, so why complain?
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 12 2008 20:12 GMT
#19
On November 12 2008 08:43 SpiralArchitect wrote:
I think every matchups has a pretty decent guide for it, at least. I dont really see the contribution in writing a guide which is supposed to power you from D to C-. Think of something else imo, or just wait to 1k to do anything since 500 isnt really that big of a milestone.

ahem that is encouraging...
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
November 12 2008 20:33 GMT
#20
honestly no milestone is really that big after haji hits the big 30 k ><
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 12 2008 20:34 GMT
#21
On November 13 2008 05:12 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 08:43 SpiralArchitect wrote:
I think every matchups has a pretty decent guide for it, at least. I dont really see the contribution in writing a guide which is supposed to power you from D to C-. Think of something else imo, or just wait to 1k to do anything since 500 isnt really that big of a milestone.

ahem that is encouraging...


If spiral thinks he's wasting his time let him say so, I have to agree with him it sounds pretty unnecessary unless it's hilarious like the pressure guide.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
November 13 2008 06:12 GMT
#22
I dont think people should make guides unless they're around c+/b- or higher.
ils
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