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Poem for IB English A2(second language) class

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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 18:24:12
October 14 2008 19:47 GMT
#1


micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
October 14 2008 19:52 GMT
#2
Your usage of 'chipper' is apparently not incorrect, but caught me by surprise. I don't recall ever seeing it used as a verb before.

I'm not good with poems, but can you explain to me what "For what had been done was for the cursed land to blame" means?
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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
October 14 2008 19:56 GMT
#3
On October 15 2008 04:52 micronesia wrote:
Your usage of 'chipper' is apparently not incorrect, but caught me by surprise. I don't recall ever seeing it used as a verb before.

I'm not good with poems, but can you explain to me what "For what had been done was for the cursed land to blame" means?


If you read the book then I think you will understand, but its basically all because of the "Island"'s effect as it changed the boys after a while into savages.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
October 14 2008 19:57 GMT
#4
On October 15 2008 04:56 DragoonPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2008 04:52 micronesia wrote:
Your usage of 'chipper' is apparently not incorrect, but caught me by surprise. I don't recall ever seeing it used as a verb before.

I'm not good with poems, but can you explain to me what "For what had been done was for the cursed land to blame" means?


If you read the book then I think you will understand, but its basically all because of the "Island"'s effect as it changed the boys after a while into savages.

I read the book a while ago so I really don't remember it that well... but I thought the island was not actually to blame... it was the human nature which the island failed to prevent due to being nothing more than a vacant island...
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
October 14 2008 20:16 GMT
#5
Hmm, I'm not quite sure about having the images of happiness (lines 3 and 4) doesn't seem to transist well into the 'theme' of the poem because if you want to make it seem like its all okay in the present, then line 2 totally throws me off =/.

And i also agree with micronesia that the book was more trying to highlight points of what desperation and isolation from a modern government can do. Probably worded that wrong but i believe the kids formed governments of their own and such.

Not a major in english, those are just my two cents.

Goodluck with this though!
We see things they'll never see
Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
October 14 2008 20:39 GMT
#6
On October 15 2008 04:57 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2008 04:56 DragoonPK wrote:
On October 15 2008 04:52 micronesia wrote:
Your usage of 'chipper' is apparently not incorrect, but caught me by surprise. I don't recall ever seeing it used as a verb before.

I'm not good with poems, but can you explain to me what "For what had been done was for the cursed land to blame" means?


If you read the book then I think you will understand, but its basically all because of the "Island"'s effect as it changed the boys after a while into savages.

I read the book a while ago so I really don't remember it that well... but I thought the island was not actually to blame... it was the human nature which the island failed to prevent due to being nothing more than a vacant island...


the island was simply a metaphor for paradise
then when 'humans' touch it, the very first thing that happens is the 'scar'
among other things...

the island wasnt the cause for the transformation
it's the "inner beast" which was
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
October 14 2008 21:44 GMT
#7
Although I'm not so good with Poetry, I'd say its pretty good
I've never read "Lord of the Flies" btw XD
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
October 14 2008 21:49 GMT
#8
Ugh... I read this about last month. It was a good book, but the work that came along with it was horrific.

And, to clarify:
The island was meant to be perfect. The point Golding was trying to make was to state that "human nature is inherently evil." Hrm... let me see if I can remember the quote. I'll just paraphrase: The point of the book was to trace the defects of society back to defects of human nature.
Back to the point of the island being perfect: It was stated that it was the nature of the children that created the ending.

Good poem, but it only skims the deeper meaning of the book.
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