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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 04 2008 02:24 GMT
#61
On October 02 2008 15:19 Kennigit wrote:
We need a new bonjwa.


If you ask me nicely, i'l be your precious new bonjawa, deal?
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
October 06 2008 01:48 GMT
#62
On October 02 2008 22:29 Plexa wrote:
Actually Kennigit... as far as I am concerned (i only care about the OSL), the OSL has kinda returned to normal and we have the same few people in each starleague. Sure its not the players we used to know and love, they are the new legends which we will hopefully fall in love with over the coming years/months. Unfortunately this new gen is shitting all over the old traditions

Got write some FEs about the new legends so we have a reason to care about them. :p
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
October 06 2008 02:19 GMT
#63
On October 02 2008 15:19 Kennigit wrote:
We need a new Federer.


fixed ^^, maybe we'll get new sc2 bonjwas
Sup
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
October 06 2008 03:21 GMT
#64
jaedong.

heres hoping to stork or firebat hero (doubt that with his abysmall tvp.




lomo to win 3 osl with gosu wraith micro
wraiths go pew pew
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
October 06 2008 03:32 GMT
#65
I feel the same, I keep hoping for a new bonjwa to show up. It makes things so much more interesting when there is this one player that dominates everyone else and becomes this massive obstacle that everyone else has to react to. We haven't really had a player that is just has the same kind of overwhelming "invincibility" that someone like Savior had.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 06 2008 04:00 GMT
#66
It won't happen.

When StarCraft 2 comes out, it'll happen.

The problem is that there isn't much more room for the metagame to grow.

Everytime a bonjwa came about they changed the metagame completely. Iloveoov changed it to monstrous macro, etc.

The only thing separating players now is APM and macro ability.
RIP Aaliyah
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
October 06 2008 04:15 GMT
#67
On October 06 2008 10:48 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2008 22:29 Plexa wrote:
Actually Kennigit... as far as I am concerned (i only care about the OSL), the OSL has kinda returned to normal and we have the same few people in each starleague. Sure its not the players we used to know and love, they are the new legends which we will hopefully fall in love with over the coming years/months. Unfortunately this new gen is shitting all over the old traditions

Got write some FEs about the new legends so we have a reason to care about them. :p

Felagund
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines504 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-06 04:23:50
October 06 2008 04:17 GMT
#68
I think a bonjwa is not so much about the talent as the attitude.

Look at sAviOr in GOMTV3 and EVER 2007. He still had the skills--all right, so his ZvT is a bit suspect--but after the mental beating from Bisu in GOMTV1 and fbh in GOMTV2 he no longer had the aura of 'I keel you, I eat your heart.'

(EVER 2007 - so close to beating PvZ imba Bisu on PvZ imba Katrina . . . T_T )

EDIT: Gah, forgot my point. So we could have all this 60%+ in all MUs progamers, but we need one to exude the 'Bisu? Flash? Lol I eat you alive' aura.

Jaedong is a nice little kid, excellent player, but he doesn't have the attitude. He's . . . a nice little kid.
TL CJ Entusman #5 "now she is unarmed, u shall go gather ur army, siege ur tanks and her choke and send some vessels to spot her lurkers, at this time she may have defilers so, if u spot some, unsiege and bring fbs" -Ki_Do
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 06 2008 05:07 GMT
#69
Oh, Felagund... I think I remember you from StarEdit.net

Savior's ZvT was never suspect... He raped Nada, Boxer, and Iris in important series. Maybe raped isn't the best word, but he looked really, really strong, on a lot of maps that were said to be hurtful to Zerg.

Bisu is just a strong harasser... His one build wonder sky rocketed him to fame, and his PvP against Stork was epic, but he's never been an overall strong player... People just saw him rape Savior and Stork in quick succession, and assumed he was the next big thing.

Jaedong has tonnes of personality to make him great. His nick name is "Legend Killer" ffs.

It's just gonna take some cleverly written articles to get TL on the sides of the new players of BW. As long as there is a divide between the S class (Flash, Jaedong especially ZvZ, Best's PvP, Fantasy's TvT), and the A class, there's always going to be players you're expecting to win, and exciting upsets. We only need some good writer's to romanticise the trials of these players.

I think once we see a single player figure out all the new maps, and 'revolutionize' StarCraft again, you'll find people flocking to him as "the S-class player with attitude." Because frankly, I don't see anything particularly different about the way Bisu acts in relation to every other pro-gamer.

I love new maps...
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
October 06 2008 05:23 GMT
#70
On October 06 2008 14:07 PsycHOTemplar wrote:

I think once we see a single player figure out all the new maps, and 'revolutionize' StarCraft again, you'll find people flocking to him as "the S-class player with attitude." Because frankly, I don't see anything particularly different about the way Bisu acts in relation to every other pro-gamer.

I love new maps...


Are you kidding? He selected probably the strongest terran at the time (Hwasin) as insurance, then proceeded to humiliate him with scouts (even though the series was pretty close imo). He proxy 2-gated in some shitty p's own main.

Although other bmish players like fbh and gogo also do stuff like that, they don't have the results to make theirr little displays dominating in the same fashion.

Sure he seems like every other progamer now, but thats cos he's playing pretty far below his potential, there is really no reason to show the tude, it would just make him look like a tard if he did it now. But now way he did not have that aura in his prime!
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
October 06 2008 07:17 GMT
#71
watch jaedong vs. go.go
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
October 06 2008 14:05 GMT
#72
jaedong is my bonjwa even if he isn't a real bonjwa >_>
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
October 07 2008 05:33 GMT
#73
I think if Jaedong wins the GSL or MSL again he officially becomes contender for bonjwa, no?
Free Palestine
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
October 07 2008 06:43 GMT
#74
Flash... -_-. You were supposed to win GSL, OSL, and MSL last season and be the super bonjwa. Then Lux, Jaedong and ForGG smashed you.....

And now you play like a lazy punk! I hate you. You're still the best in my heart though
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