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TechniQ.UK
United Kingdom391 Posts
Well just because were coming up for the release of zeitgeist 2 I thought I'd try and balance your views on zeitgeist. So please watch these response videos to it debunking sections of the film using their own facts against them. I'm not trying to tell you what your views are but you should watch it its interesting.   | ||
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Wysp
Canada2299 Posts
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
Uhg lol. There's a reason real research requires references... So people can go look at them to make sure they weren't written in crayon by your little brother when the facts seem off instead of just taking your word for it that I'd agree they're a credible source of information. Oh well! The world's ending in 2012 anyway. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
LOL Could they make these videos anymore flashy? Good lord, what a squalid, shameful waste of humanity these people are. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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GrayArea
United States872 Posts
On October 02 2008 10:12 SCC-Faust wrote: Why is Christmas on December 25th if Jesus was popped out during Spring/Summer? its arbitrary I think because they don't know exactly when | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On October 02 2008 10:15 GrayArea wrote: its arbitrary I think because they don't know exactly when So they just estimate it by placing it in the opposite time of the year? | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Although depending on your geographical location, It might not be Winter in December ;P | ||
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GrayArea
United States872 Posts
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FR4CT4L
Australia697 Posts
Not to mention debunk videos are usually highly annoying and pointless. The rat poison analogy just made me want to smack my head on the wall. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
This reminds me of when Farenheit 9/11 came out, and it was stupid. And then other documentaries came out telling us why it was stupid, but those documentaries were also stupid. | ||
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Xan
Norway257 Posts
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
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Meta
United States6228 Posts
I thought Zeitgiest was a pretty intriguing movie, and I actually watched the beginning (the part about religion and myths) three times, and I looked some of this stuff up myself but couldn't find anything that would give it merit. So I'm glad someone actually did real research and put it on youtube  More of my thoughts on zeitgiest- the stuff about 9/11 and banks is pretty absurd, although the RFID chips might actually be the most reputable claim the movie made. Also, for the people who are wondering about december 25th- I'm pretty sure this video is correct in claiming that that particular date was chosen because it coincided with pagan holidays and the ancient church was trying to wipe them out. | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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KwarK
United States44307 Posts
On October 02 2008 10:12 SCC-Faust wrote: Why is Christmas on December 25th if Jesus was popped out during Spring/Summer? Pre-existing pagan festival of Saturnalia was on the 25th. Putting Christmas then wipes out a pagan tradition and creates a strong Christian tradition without pissing off anyone who enjoys their midwinter festivals. If you think about it for a minute it does seem a little odd that the census across the entire Roman Empire would be called in the middle of winter. Summer seems much more likely. | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
On October 02 2008 10:45 zobz wrote: Yeah there's probably alot of bullshit in zeitgeist if not 90 percent of it but this isn't really great for a debunk video. Since the zeitgeist site is full of sources somebody should just make a video of checking a select bunch of them and demonstrating how they were misinterpretted or bullshit in themselves. That would require actual work, so don't expect that in the near future. It's far easier just to start blathering about stuff you think you heard this one time. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
On October 02 2008 10:23 FR4CT4L wrote: The theme sounds like something out of World of Warcraft...I can't really take it seriously ever at all. I swear I've heard that somewhere in WoW. Not to mention debunk videos are usually highly annoying and pointless. The rat poison analogy just made me want to smack my head on the wall. It is WoW music. At least in the beginning. | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On October 02 2008 10:20 GrayArea wrote: Well Spring has easter and summer is summer, so they chose winter? lol easters after jesus was born | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
I don't think I ever laughed at a post as hard as this. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Sewi
Germany1697 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 02 2008 10:12 SCC-Faust wrote: Why is Christmas on December 25th if Jesus was popped out during Spring/Summer? Because religion, like everything else, needs PR and advertising. There was no Christmas for early Christians in the Roman empire and even though it was still growing, they had difficulty because Christianity is not a very fun religion. Romans were getting shit faced and having great orgies for Saturnalia and the week after for Sol Invictus, so Christianity latched on and made their own celebration so that being a Christian in the winter time didn't suck so much. It's like Kyle's Jew on Christmas thing only for Christians. It's an arbitrary celebration created to attract followers and publicity, particularly dated because Romans were used to festivals around that part of the calender. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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CFDragon
United States304 Posts
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SonofGaia
8 Posts
You'd learn a buttload more about spirituality, the ego and the observer by consuming Terrence McKenna's "Heroic Dose" | ||
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Proposal
United States1310 Posts
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ish0wstopper
Korea (South)342 Posts
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ZoDD
Canada309 Posts
![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster_2.jpg) believe what you want | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
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Suggestion Box
China115 Posts
Zeitgeist's more interesting claims have to do with economics and history. Honestly debunking popular religions in the west is so easy and has been for centuries. We don't need to debate over Zeitgeist to talk about Christian claims, or the outrageous ways they try to shoot down Zeitgeist (or anything else that disagrees with them). They are consistently wrong on everything we could possibly research, and so maybe we can debate over areas where the knowledge is not yet (and may never be complete) but what's the point? | ||
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