WTF HOT_BID!!!!

On August 25 2008 02:42 freedom yay wrote:
I was reading the automaed ban list (I was bored) and I saw that Hot_bid banned 3 people and his reasons for each was along the lines of "Dino Fan." I want an explanation.!!!

This frustrates me because in TL.net it's like a communism.

If you're new you're poor. If you're a veteran you're rich (metaphorically of course) and virtually untouchable.

And if you're mainfesto you're a demi-god.

On August 25 2008 03:04 Frits wrote:


You act as if the veterans started out with 3000 posts, the only reason we got to those postcounts is because we don't post like shit all the time and use logical reasoning when entering arguments. Survival of the fittest.

On August 25 2008 03:15 azndsh wrote:
are you dense? people have already explained it to you...

Supporting Dino is like saying you support Islamic extremists and suicide bombers. I don't see how it could possibly generate any meaningful discussion, so thus you're going to get banned.

America is a democracy, but terrorists still get thrown into jail, so your analogy sucks balls.

On August 25 2008 03:04 Frits wrote:


You act as if the veterans started out with 3000 posts, the only reason we got to those postcounts is because we don't post like shit all the time and use logical reasoning when entering arguments. Survival of the fittest.

On August 25 2008 03:18 Aurious wrote:


That's absolute bull-shit.

Some people prefer not to post in every fucking thread and be here for a respectable time without even getting a warning. My post count isn't huge by any means, when I see people jump from 0-1000 in under a month because they post in every thread.

Post count should not mean as much as it fucking does. I for one am not a fan of dino, I know him he's not that bad of a guy, but I cannot deny the fact he hacked. But to ban people for the reason of we are talking about a hacker is just absurd. I for one am starting to get a little disgusted with some of the admin's power trips. I have been a member of this site since Tuesday, 11th of April 2006. Not once gotten a warning, yet i still have just over 1300 posts. Does that exclude me from being a veteran? There should honestly be more than post count to judge a person before being banned. If say for example Incontrol said the same things faust said he would not have been banned.

The thing is everyone is trying to state an opinion and in one case I watched a guy support his opinion and then eventually give up on it and still get banned. Why? He choose to throw his opinion away. Now I see people getting banned for voicing their own opinions.

The admin's have a job to do yes, but banning people because they do not like that persons opinion? Maybe the staff needs a little more unity, maybe a little more staff opinion, maybe a revamp of the ban policy I do not know. I am sure that they have a policy they keep out of the publics eye.

On August 25 2008 03:20 fanatacist wrote:
Who cares what you deem it. The fact of the matter is, hackers are cancer in this society. People who support hackers support hacking. Supporting cancer is fucking stupid. Similarly, supporting hacking is stupid and damaging to the community. Because of people like you and other "fans" (I don't understand how you can be a fan of something that is achieved through cheating, unless you are a douchebag) of Dino, hackers think that what they are doing is more or less okay since there are people who will support them anyways, right? Well, fuck that.

I agree with TL's policy on hackers, and supporters of hackers. Purging the idiots and cheaters out of a gaming community is essential.

On August 25 2008 03:22 Frits wrote:


Is there anyone with a high postcount defending dino?

Survival of the fittest, I'm telling you.

On August 25 2008 03:15 azndsh wrote:
are you dense? people have already explained it to you...

Supporting Dino is like saying you support Islamic extremists and suicide bombers. I don't see how it could possibly generate any meaningful discussion, so thus you're going to get banned.

America is a democracy, but terrorists still get thrown into jail, so your analogy sucks balls.

On August 25 2008 03:15 MYM.Testie wrote:
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Let My people go!
Oppressed so hard they could not stand,

Let My people go!
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Way down in Egypt’s land;
Tell old Pharaoh
To let My people go!

No more shall they in bondage toil,
Let My people go!
Let them come out with Egypt’s spoil,
Let My people go!

Oh, let us all from bondage flee,
Let My people go!
And let us all in Christ be free,
Let My people go!

You need not always weep and mourn,
Let My people go!
And wear these slav’ry chains forlorn,
Let My people go!

Your foes shall not before you stand,
Let My people go!
And you’ll possess fair Canaan’s land,
Let My people go!

On August 25 2008 03:23 Aurious wrote:


Yes purge the idiots and cheaters, don't purge the people voicing their opinions on the matter though. Sure you could classify the people voicing their opinions idiots, but who are you to judge another opinion?

On August 25 2008 03:27 Yaqoob wrote:


What's an islaamic extremist?


Someone whose wife covers like this.


The guy dresses like this [with the big beard].


I dont mean dress like this in Kuwait/Saudi Arabia or in any random arab countries. I mean someone who would dress like that in Canada/USA/Britian and his wife dresses like above because they want to and practicing their religion. Is those people Islaamic extremists?

On August 25 2008 03:20 fanatacist wrote:
Who cares what you deem it. The fact of the matter is, hackers are cancer in this society. People who support hackers support hacking. Supporting cancer is fucking stupid. Similarly, supporting hacking is stupid and damaging to the community. Because of people like you and other "fans" (I don't understand how you can be a fan of something that is achieved through cheating, unless you are a douchebag) of Dino, hackers think that what they are doing is more or less okay since there are people who will support them anyways, right? Well, fuck that.

I agree with TL's policy on hackers, and supporters of hackers. Purging the idiots and cheaters out of a gaming community is essential.

On August 25 2008 03:49 Raithed wrote:

i support antidrophack and thats a hack, is that wrong?

On August 25 2008 03:45 Aurious wrote:
It's the fact that most of the moderators of this forum should probably put a little more into what should be a ban and what shouldn't. Members who have super high post counts should not have diplomatic immunity. Sure they will always get more lee-way than a person who has less than 1000 posts but should also factor in time as well.

On August 25 2008 03:45 Aurious wrote:
I didn't see faust supporting him, yet he got banned. What I seen was he was supporting he was a overall skilled gamer who performed decently at a live event.

It's the fact that most of the moderators of this forum should probably put a little more into what should be a ban and what shouldn't. Members who have super high post counts should not have diplomatic immunity. Sure they will always get more lee-way than a person who has less than 1000 posts but should also factor in time as well.

Of course freedom of speech has it's limits and the moderators are here to keep that in line and we don't want a super polluted forum. If a person is damaging the community and actually fully supporting it sure fine by me. If they are just voicing a opinion that goes against the majority, that should never ever be a ban unless it is just plain stupid.

Dino won't be someone accepted into the community very quickly, but he shows he can still compete well with some of the higher end USA gamers without the use of hacks. I don't support the way Dino competes or people who worship him, but I am still able to see that people change. There are two good example of this in Testie and Trek, sure I wasn't around when they hacked but I know about most of the situation. Maybe Dino's willing to change, maybe not.

Just power-trips need to stop.

On August 25 2008 04:43 Athos wrote:
Im confused. Are Dino and Dinot different people? I know that Dinot is a chillean zerg, but I've never heard of Dino. That's who I thought Chill was refering to on TL attack multiple times.

On August 25 2008 03:49 azndsh wrote:
he also is unaware of what the term 'Islamic extremist' means.

wiki:
Islamic Extremism is a term used to describe the actions and beliefs of violent Islamic activists, though many mainstream Muslims would say they are not Islamic at all. Another term for this may be "jihadist". Its definition is debated, but it is distinct from Islamic fundamentalism and Islamism in that neither of those necessarily denote or condone violence.

If you support that and live in the US, then yes you can probably get thrown into jail

On August 25 2008 03:18 Aurious wrote:


That's absolute bull-shit.

Some people prefer not to post in every fucking thread and be here for a respectable time without even getting a warning. My post count isn't huge by any means, when I see people jump from 0-1000 in under a month because they post in every thread.

Post count should not mean as much as it fucking does. I for one am not a fan of dino, I know him he's not that bad of a guy, but I cannot deny the fact he hacked. But to ban people for the reason of we are talking about a hacker is just absurd. I for one am starting to get a little disgusted with some of the admin's power trips. I have been a member of this site since Tuesday, 11th of April 2006. Not once gotten a warning, yet i still have just over 1300 posts. Does that exclude me from being a veteran? There should honestly be more than post count to judge a person before being banned. If say for example Incontrol said the same things faust said he would not have been banned.

The thing is everyone is trying to state an opinion and in one case I watched a guy support his opinion and then eventually give up on it and still get banned. Why? He choose to throw his opinion away. Now I see people getting banned for voicing their own opinions.

The admin's have a job to do yes, but banning people because they do not like that persons opinion? Maybe the staff needs a little more unity, maybe a little more staff opinion, maybe a revamp of the ban policy I do not know. I am sure that they have a policy they keep out of the publics eye.

This frustrates me because in TL.net it's like a communism.

On August 25 2008 02:42 freedom yay wrote:
I was reading the automaed ban list (I was bored) and I saw that Hot_bid banned 3 people and his reasons for each was along the lines of "Dino Fan." I want an explanation.!!!

This frustrates me because in TL.net it's like a communism.

If you're new you're poor. If you're a veteran you're rich (metaphorically of course) and virtually untouchable.

And if you're mainfesto you're a demi-god.

On August 25 2008 09:49 XCetron wrote:
communism ftw.

On August 25 2008 03:10 freedom yay wrote:
Well seeing as Dino is a hacker, I still deem it unnecessary to ban his fans. Unless they said something stupid like "STFU ALL DINO RULES AND DESTROYS! ______" then yeah. I'm still waititng for Hot_bid to answer

On August 25 2008 02:51 Superiorwolf wrote:
Read the rules :o

He's already notified people that they aren't allowed to be Dino fans... that's a pretty good warning, and one that he wasn't even required to give. Do you even know who Dino is, and what he does

This frustrates me because in TL.net it's like a communism.

On August 25 2008 11:39 Frits wrote:
All this heresy is making me sick comrades.

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

WAR IS PEACE

On August 25 2008 09:02 Yaqoob wrote:


and USA is not doing terrorism in Iraq amongst other places? Of course if you disagree with USA then your a terrorist or against national security or something like that?

I guess I should be glad I don't live in a country that freely kills innocent people on a daily basis.

I actually hate this word of Islaamic Extremism. Who is to judge what is extreme? Yes I think Usaamah ibn Ladan is extreme and 9/11 was wrong and bombings in the UK tube. The people in Iraq fighting the USA soldiers is not terrorism in that rather the USA are doing terrorism and killing innocent people. War on Terror loooooooooool

They went in for 'weapons of mass destruction' and they are the only one doing destruction. Of course those people doing "Jihad" in Iraq/Kashmir/Cheyncha are all 'extremists' in most people's eyes but you don't see their view that their land is being taken/people are being killed/ kids being killed and woman getting raped?

You think USA helped Iraq lol? They just go around killing innocent people and then make a big news post every time 10 soldiers die but do not care when 100 Iraqis die and whoever they want to get they just say they have links with al-Qaeda.

and btw another thing.. al-Wahabiyaah [i.e Wahabis] or the correct term Salafi's are not extremist Jihaadi and people that go around doing 9/11 and stuipid stuff like that [killing innocent people].

I am not trolling btw. Also, I should've made this a blog but I'm kinda lazy.

On August 25 2008 13:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

freedom yay...you'll never live that down.

For the rest of your life you will be quoted as saying that. It will go on your tombstone, in your senior yearbook photo...it'll be tatooed on your penis.

glhf

On August 25 2008 11:26 XCetron wrote:
for example, Fakesteve is a mod with 8k posts, while ITW has much more but is not a mod. High post counts mean youre good at dodging bans.